Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joao Coelho Cabral (Confusing Birth Record) Help Please Santa Maria

2019-03-05 Thread Rosemarie Capodicci
Very good explanation, Angela. Thank you so much! Rosemarie rcap...@gmail.com Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores, Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 10:05 AM Tish M wrote: > Very good answer Angela. I always like your input. > Tish >

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joao Coelho Cabral (Confusing Birth Record) Help Please Santa Maria

2019-03-05 Thread Tish M
Very good answer Angela. I always like your input. Tish On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 9:01 AM Ângela Loura wrote: > Filiação is not the same as Perfilhação. > Filiação means naming your parents, this expression often appears in forms > we need to fill and name our parents. Perfilhação means that if

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joao Coelho Cabral (Confusing Birth Record) Help Please Santa Maria

2019-03-05 Thread Leonor Bertoni
I am not sure what it meant in the early days but in the early 1960's when my aunt adopted my cousin (she was her brother's daughter) she had to "filiar" her, my uncle had to "desfiliar" his daughter. In other words, he (and his wife) had to give up his rights as parents while my aunt and her

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joao Coelho Cabral (Confusing Birth Record) Help Please Santa Maria

2019-03-05 Thread Ângela Loura
Filiação is not the same as Perfilhação. Filiação means naming your parents, this expression often appears in forms we need to fill and name our parents. Perfilhação means that if you were an exposto your parents later confirmed themselves as your parents, or only one of them, or in other cases

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joao Coelho Cabral (Confusing Birth Record)Help Please Santa Maria

2019-03-05 Thread 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy
: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joao Coelho Cabral (Confusing Birth Record)Help Please Santa Maria Hello, Sam. The record is a 'JUSTIFICATION' for a baptism that missed its recording at the time of the event for Manuel Coelho Cabral, born in that respective parish on June 11th 1852, baptized

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joao Coelho Cabral (Confusing Birth Record) Help Please Santa Maria

2019-03-05 Thread Margaret Vicente
Hello, Sam. The record is a 'JUSTIFICATION' for a baptism that missed its recording at the time of the event for Manuel Coelho Cabral, born in that respective parish on June 11th 1852, baptized in the same parish on 29th of same month and year. 10th to 8th line from the bottom reads . "

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joao Coelho Cabral (Confusing Birth Record) Help Please Santa Maria

2019-03-05 Thread Rosemarie Capodicci
Children were baptised after the fact many times. I have one set of parents that bapized 3 children at the same time! It was more common practice to baptize within a few weeks or even sooner. Sometimes the child was ill at birth, premmie or just small, and was baptized by the midwife then at the

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joao Coelho Cabral (Confusing Birth Record) Help Please Santa Maria

2019-03-04 Thread Leonor Bertoni
The record says he had already been baptized. My father was baptized when he was 26 years old, he was baptized, had his confirmation and got married all on the same day, lol. On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 1:52 AM JesseAndDeborah Mendonca < jessdebmendo...@gmail.com> wrote: > Would they baptize someone

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joao Coelho Cabral (Confusing Birth Record) Help Please Santa Maria

2019-03-04 Thread JesseAndDeborah Mendonca
Would they baptize someone after the fact? I know of someone who is being married that is jumping through hoops for the Catholic Church because it is important to his future wife. Just a thought. On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 4:06 PM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy < azores@googlegroups.com>

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joao Coelho Cabral (Confusing Birth Record) Help Please Santa Maria

2019-03-04 Thread Leonor Bertoni
I think this is an adoption or maybe he was an "exposto" and the parents are claiming him. Filiação means adoption or designation of parents. It says he was originally baptized in 1852, I tried looking for the original record but couldn't find it, they may have removed it. I did not find any

[AZORES-Genealogy] Joao Coelho Cabral (Confusing Birth Record) Help Please Santa Maria

2019-03-04 Thread 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1890-1899/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1890-1899_item1/P17.html This one is very confusing. It seems to be saying something about confirming him being born some thirty years earlier and that the two people mentioned are his parents.