Hello All,
I have a question and hope someone can help. Any help is appreciated. My
paternal Grandmother: Marie Gertrude Holmes b-5/31/1894 in Sao Jorge (I
think?) came to the U.S. she said when she was 7, thru Boston? With her Mother
Isabel I Sousa (maiden Enos), her Step Brother Manuel S
My guess is that Holmes might have been Homen.
Maria Sousa
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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions (Names in Azores?)
To: "Azores Genealogy"
Date: Friday, Octo
Vivian,
Try Homen, as Maria suggested in the immigration records.
Also, you might want to go here to get some documents in Portuguese with
their English translations. Many of us who are non-native speakers had to
train ourselves to "read" the records. It's in Part 3:
http://homepage.mac.com/kma
checo genealogy
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From: Vivian Christy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Hello All,
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I have a question and hope someone can help.? Any help is
In a message dated 10/24/2008 12:04:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
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> I have a question and hope someone can help. Any help is appreciated. My
> paternal Grandmother: Marie Gertrude Holmes b-5/31/1894 in Sao Jorge (I
> think?) came to the U.S. she said when she was 7,
Vivian,
The link Jessica provided has only the port of Ponta Delgada online. Most
people sailing from there were living on S.Miguel and Sta. Maria islands. I
do see a few other islands. I think many of S. Jorge probably left from
Angra on Terceira, but since I don't research S. Jorge, I'm not 1
24 Oct 2008 5:55 pm
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions (Names in Azores?)
Vivian,
The link Jessica provided has only the port of Ponta Delgada online.? Most
people sailing from there were living on S.Miguel and Sta. Maria islands.? I do
see a few other islands.? I think many
-roots.blogspot.com
--- Em sex, 24/10/08, Vivian Christy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu:
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Para: "Azores Genealogy"
Data: Sexta-feira, 24 de Outubro de 2008, 17:03
Hello All,
I have a que
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions (Names in Azores?)
Vivian,
Try Homen, as Maria suggested in the immigration records.
Also, you might want to go here to get some documents in Portuguese with
their English translations. Many of us who are non-native speakers had to
train ourselve
Isabel Guilhermina de Azevedo had a son Manuel, b. May 27 1871 before she
married Primo de Sousa Espinola
>From him was born:
Antonio b, 1877, d. 1879
Jose, b. 1878
Maria, b. 1879, d. 1881
Maria b. 1884, d. 1885
Joao, b. 1888
Maria b. 1890
Marcio Borba
Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-r
Vivian,
I sent the WWI WWII Draft records to your email address. Here are the
census records I have found, I am also sending to list so others on list do
not have to duplicate research.
1920 US census
Along Sierra Road, Oakdale, Stanislaus County, CA
Frank Holmes 38, b. CA, parents b. Portugal,
I see alot of Sao Jorge people leaving from Faial.
Nancy
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 15:55:31 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL
PROTECTED]: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions (Names in Azores?)Vivian,The link
Jessica provided has only the port of Ponta Delgada online. Most people
sailing from
?
Thank you for all your help everyone. I really appreciate the advice.
Vivian (Silva) Christy
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also Isabel
Sousa in 1936. That did not help as far as why the children list the father as
Frank Holmes?
Thanks for your help and for everyones help.
Vivian
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Date: Friday, October 24, 2008, 5:19 PM
Isabel Guilhermina de Azevedo had a son Manuel, b. May 27 1871 before
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Vivian,
The link Jessica provided has only the port of Ponta Delgada online. Most
people sailing from there were living on S.Miguel and Sta. Maria islands. I do
see
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Date: Friday, October 24, 2008, 5:14 PM
I apologizethe fact that they traveled from S. Jorge completely escaped
me! I hope I didn't cause you to spend too much time searching this site.
On Oct 24, 2008, at 11:20 PM, Vivian Christy wrote:
> My grandmother lied about her age. She also lied on her S.S. record
> and said she was born in 1900 which is wrong.
I've found "errors" on census records of a lot of my Azorean
relatives. Especially ages, year of marriage and arrival in
25, 2008 10:32 am
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> On Oct 24, 2008, at 11:20 PM, Vivian Christy wrote:
>
> > My grandmother lied about her age. She also lied on her S.S. record
>
> > and said she was born in 1
Mary,
That is very interesting. That is why it is so hard to trace the family
because they used what ever name they wanted to and some were the exact same
names.
My Mother always told me my Grandmother lied about her age all the time because
when she was working she wanted to be older unt
understood the reason
behind the dates either. Vivian
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estions for all their help. I
really do appreciate your knowledge and help.
Vivian (Silva) Christy
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Looking at the Rol de Confessados (Census), they are still living there in
1884. In the 1890 they are not there. Isabel's mother died March 1889. I
believe Isabel emmigrated right after that
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the childrens marriage certificates to see what they say. Thank
you for all your
help. I really do appreciate any advice. Let me know what you think? Vivian
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Data: Sábado, 25 de Outubro de 2008, 7:30
Marcio, That does sound like it is them. How did you find th
Did Isabel Enos have a sister?
Nancy
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 14:56:58 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
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Hi, From what my Grandmother Marie Holmes wrote it looks like Frank Holmes was
her Father and he was killed by
onsistency's if their are deaths of
the father or the mother.
P.S.: I live in San Luis Obispo, if I can help, let me know.l
Ronnie
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Vivian,
What I have found is that yo
I do not know. My grandmother never said much about her or her family just
that she did not speak english.
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Does it mention any Isabel's siblings on the newspaper?
Marcio Borba
Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com
--- Em dom, 26/10/08, Vivian Christy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu:
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Hi Ronnie, When she file for a S.S.# back in 1938 she had been married and
divorced to my Grandfather who was a naturalized citizen. So I don't know if
back then you married someone who was a citizen you became one too?
I don't think they verified the information on the form. It says on the
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Vivian,
I sent the WWI WWII Draft records to your email address. Here are the census records I have found, I am also
n the mainland now.
Ronnie
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Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 4:34 PM
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions (Names in Azores?)
Hi Ronnie, When she file for a S.S.# back in 1938 she had been marrie
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Does it mention any Isabel's siblings on the newspaper?
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Vivian:
If you are married to an American Citizen you don't automatically become a
Citizen. You must file for citizenship. The marriage
Hi Kim,
Where would I look for the probates?
Thanks, Vivian
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Hi Kim,
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Hi Ronnie,
?
Thank you for the great info.? I will try to call and find out any info they
have on the time period.? I did search the Santa Barbara County but did not
come
nks, Vivan
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Date: Monday, October 27, 2008, 5:32 PM
Hi Vivian,
Try getting the probates for these peop
I believe it was in 1920 when the change happened. John Vasconcelos knows,
but he's gone for the week. I don't know if he'll see this or not.
Cheri
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> I belive in the early 1900's (before 1920) if your husband became a
> citizen,the w
When I looked at the dates on this I noticed that Manuel b. 1871 is said to
have fathered his 1st child at 6 years old.mistake?
Nancy
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time. So I only have the internet. I will research the how to on the web site for genealogy like Cheri Mello suggested. Thanks, Vivan--- On Mon, 10/27/08, Kim Rowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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Date: Tuesday, October 28, 2008, 12:44 AM
Hi Vivian,
You said you have the obits for Primo Sousa that died in 1930 and Isabel Sousa
that died in 1936. What state & county did they die in so I can try to guide
filed don't you? Thanks, Vivian
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Date: Tuesday, October 28, 2008, 10:07 AM
I believe it was
o the
LDS to look at the film once they have it. Thanks again for your help. Vivian
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Date: Tuesday, Oct
Vivian,
In 1940 the Alien Registration (Smith Act) was passed. Your grandfather
would have had to register. You can find out if your grandmother was
registered or not. You can find out more information and the form you will
need to mail in to get this info here:
http://homepage.mac.com/kmacardo
checo Genealogy
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Sent: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 10:37 am
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Hi Cheri and Jessica,? My Grandmother married my Grandfather in 1918 but
Hi Cheri,
I thought I had read the how to on that web site. Will go over it again.
Thanks for the info.
Vivian
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Hi Vivian,
I noticed Cheri's response to your email and
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