[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions (Names in Azores?)

2008-10-24 Thread Vivian Christy
Hello All,   I have a question and hope someone can help.  Any help is appreciated.  My paternal Grandmother:  Marie Gertrude Holmes b-5/31/1894 in Sao Jorge (I think?) came to the U.S. she said when she was 7, thru Boston?  With her Mother Isabel I Sousa (maiden Enos), her Step Brother Manuel S

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions (Names in Azores?)

2008-10-24 Thread Maria Sousa
My guess is that Holmes might have been Homen.   Maria Sousa --- On Fri, 10/24/08, Vivian Christy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Vivian Christy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions (Names in Azores?) To: "Azores Genealogy" Date: Friday, Octo

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions (Names in Azores?)

2008-10-24 Thread Cheri Mello
Vivian, Try Homen, as Maria suggested in the immigration records. Also, you might want to go here to get some documents in Portuguese with their English translations. Many of us who are non-native speakers had to train ourselves to "read" the records. It's in Part 3: http://homepage.mac.com/kma

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions (Names in Azores?)

2008-10-24 Thread chaska8821
checo genealogy -Original Message- From: Vivian Christy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Azores Genealogy Sent: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:03 am Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions (Names in Azores?) Hello All, ? I have a question and hope someone can help.? Any help is

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions (Names in Azores?)

2008-10-24 Thread Marralha
In a message dated 10/24/2008 12:04:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I have a question and hope someone can help. Any help is appreciated. My > paternal Grandmother: Marie Gertrude Holmes b-5/31/1894 in Sao Jorge (I > think?) came to the U.S. she said when she was 7,

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions (Names in Azores?)

2008-10-24 Thread Cheri Mello
Vivian, The link Jessica provided has only the port of Ponta Delgada online. Most people sailing from there were living on S.Miguel and Sta. Maria islands. I do see a few other islands. I think many of S. Jorge probably left from Angra on Terceira, but since I don't research S. Jorge, I'm not 1

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions (Names in Azores?)

2008-10-24 Thread chaska8821
24 Oct 2008 5:55 pm Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions (Names in Azores?) Vivian, The link Jessica provided has only the port of Ponta Delgada online.? Most people sailing from there were living on S.Miguel and Sta. Maria islands.? I do see a few other islands.? I think many

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions (Names in Azores?)

2008-10-24 Thread Marcio Borba
-roots.blogspot.com --- Em sex, 24/10/08, Vivian Christy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu: De: Vivian Christy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Assunto: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions (Names in Azores?) Para: "Azores Genealogy" Data: Sexta-feira, 24 de Outubro de 2008, 17:03 Hello All,   I have a que

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions (Names in Azores?)

2008-10-24 Thread Maggie Sutton
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions (Names in Azores?) Vivian, Try Homen, as Maria suggested in the immigration records. Also, you might want to go here to get some documents in Portuguese with their English translations. Many of us who are non-native speakers had to train ourselve

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions (Names in Azores?)

2008-10-24 Thread Marcio Borba
Isabel Guilhermina de Azevedo had a son Manuel, b. May 27 1871 before she married Primo de Sousa Espinola   >From him was born: Antonio b, 1877, d. 1879 Jose, b. 1878 Maria, b. 1879, d. 1881 Maria b. 1884, d. 1885 Joao, b. 1888 Maria b. 1890 Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-r

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions (Names in Azores?)

2008-10-24 Thread "E" Sharp
Vivian, I sent the WWI WWII Draft records to your email address. Here are the census records I have found, I am also sending to list so others on list do not have to duplicate research. 1920 US census Along Sierra Road, Oakdale, Stanislaus County, CA Frank Holmes 38, b. CA, parents b. Portugal,

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions (Names in Azores?)

2008-10-25 Thread nancy jean baptiste
I see alot of Sao Jorge people leaving from Faial. Nancy Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 15:55:31 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions (Names in Azores?)Vivian,The link Jessica provided has only the port of Ponta Delgada online. Most people sailing from

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions (Names in Azores?)

2008-10-25 Thread Vivian Christy
?    Thank you for all your help everyone.  I really appreciate the advice.   Vivian (Silva) Christy --- On Fri, 10/24/08, Maggie Sutton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Maggie Sutton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions (Names in Azores?) To: Azores@googlegroups.com

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions (Names in Azores?)

2008-10-25 Thread Vivian Christy
also Isabel Sousa in 1936.  That did not help as far as why the children list the father as Frank Holmes?   Thanks for your help and for everyones help. Vivian --- On Fri, 10/24/08, "E" Sharp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: "E" Sharp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [AZOR

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions (Names in Azores?)

2008-10-25 Thread Vivian Christy
/08, Marcio Borba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Marcio Borba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions (Names in Azores?) To: Azores@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, October 24, 2008, 5:19 PM Isabel Guilhermina de Azevedo had a son Manuel, b. May 27 1871 before

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions (Names in Azores?)

2008-10-25 Thread Vivian Christy
:55:31 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions (Names in Azores?) Vivian, The link Jessica provided has only the port of Ponta Delgada online.  Most people sailing from there were living on S.Miguel and Sta. Maria islands.  I do see

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions (Names in Azores?)

2008-10-25 Thread Vivian Christy
PROTECTED]> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions (Names in Azores?) To: Azores@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, October 24, 2008, 5:14 PM I apologizethe fact that they traveled from S. Jorge completely escaped me!  I hope I didn't cause you to spend too much time searching this site.

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions (Names in Azores?)

2008-10-25 Thread Mary Bordi
On Oct 24, 2008, at 11:20 PM, Vivian Christy wrote: > My grandmother lied about her age. She also lied on her S.S. record > and said she was born in 1900 which is wrong. I've found "errors" on census records of a lot of my Azorean relatives. Especially ages, year of marriage and arrival in

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions (Names in Azores?)

2008-10-25 Thread Mary Ann Santos
25, 2008 10:32 am Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions (Names in Azores?) To: Azores@googlegroups.com > On Oct 24, 2008, at 11:20 PM, Vivian Christy wrote: > > > My grandmother lied about her age. She also lied on her S.S. record > > > and said she was born in 1

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions (Names in Azores?)

2008-10-26 Thread Vivian Christy
Mary,   That is very interesting.  That is why it is so hard to trace the family because they used what ever name they wanted to and some were the exact same names.    My Mother always told me my Grandmother lied about her age all the time because when she was working she wanted to be older unt

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions (Names in Azores?)

2008-10-26 Thread Vivian Christy
understood the reason behind the dates either.  Vivian --- On Sat, 10/25/08, Mary Ann Santos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Mary Ann Santos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions (Names in Azores?) To: Azores@googlegroups.com Date: Saturday, October 25, 20

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions (Names in Azores?)

2008-10-26 Thread Marcio Borba
estions for all their help.  I really do appreciate your knowledge and help.   Vivian (Silva) Christy  --- On Fri, 10/24/08, Marcio Borba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Marcio Borba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions (Names in Azores?) To: Azores@googlegroups.

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions (Names in Azores?)

2008-10-26 Thread Marcio Borba
Looking at the Rol de Confessados (Census), they are still living there in 1884. In the 1890 they are not there. Isabel's mother died March 1889.  I believe Isabel emmigrated right after that Novos endereços, o Yahoo! que você conhece. Crie um email novo com a sua cara @ymail.com ou @ro

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions (Names in Azores?)

2008-10-26 Thread Vivian Christy
the childrens marriage certificates to see what they say.  Thank you for all your help.  I really do appreciate any advice.  Let me know what you think?  Vivian --- On Sat, 10/25/08, Marcio Borba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Marcio Borba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [AZORES-Genealog

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions (Names in Azores?)

2008-10-26 Thread Vivian Christy
/08, Vivian Christy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu: De: Vivian Christy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Assunto: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions (Names in Azores?) Para: Azores@googlegroups.com Data: Sábado, 25 de Outubro de 2008, 7:30 Marcio,  That does sound like it is them.  How did you find th

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions (Names in Azores?)

2008-10-27 Thread nancy jean baptiste
Did Isabel Enos have a sister? Nancy Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 14:56:58 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions (Names in Azores?)To: Azores@googlegroups.com Hi, From what my Grandmother Marie Holmes wrote it looks like Frank Holmes was her Father and he was killed by

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions (Names in Azores?)

2008-10-27 Thread Ronnie French
onsistency's if their are deaths of the father or the mother. P.S.: I live in San Luis Obispo, if I can help, let me know.l Ronnie - Original Message - From: nancy jean baptiste To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 9:53 AM Subject: [AZORES-Gen

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions (Names in Azores?)

2008-10-27 Thread Virginia Bowers
--- On Fri, 10/24/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions (Names in Azores?) To: Azores@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, October 24, 2008, 12:15 PM Vivian,  What I have found is that yo

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions (Names in Azores?)

2008-10-27 Thread Vivian Christy
I do not know.  My grandmother never said much about her or her family just that she did not speak english.  --- On Mon, 10/27/08, nancy jean baptiste <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: nancy jean baptiste <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions (Names in

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions (Names in Azores?)

2008-10-27 Thread Marcio Borba
Does it mention any Isabel's siblings on the newspaper? Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com --- Em dom, 26/10/08, Vivian Christy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu: De: Vivian Christy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Assunto: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions (Names in Azores?)

2008-10-27 Thread Vivian Christy
Hi Ronnie,  When she file for a S.S.# back in 1938 she had been married and divorced to my Grandfather who was a naturalized citizen.  So I don't know if back then you married someone who was a citizen you became one too?    I don't think they verified the information on the form.  It says on the

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions (Names in Azores?)

2008-10-27 Thread Kim Rowe
rom: "E" Sharp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions (Names in Azores?)To: "azores" Date: Friday, October 24, 2008, 10:46 PM Vivian,   I sent the WWI WWII Draft records to your email address.  Here are the census records I have found, I am also

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions (Names in Azores?)

2008-10-27 Thread Ronnie French
n the mainland now. Ronnie - Original Message - From: Vivian Christy To: Azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 4:34 PM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions (Names in Azores?) Hi Ronnie, When she file for a S.S.# back in 1938 she had been marrie

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions (Names in Azores?)

2008-10-27 Thread Vivian Christy
arcio Borba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Marcio Borba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions (Names in Azores?) To: Azores@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, October 27, 2008, 3:15 PM Does it mention any Isabel's siblings on the newspaper? --- Em dom, 26/10/

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions (Names in Azores?)

2008-10-27 Thread Vivian Christy
ect: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions (Names in Azores?) To: Azores@googlegroups.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, October 27, 2008, 7:33 PM Vivian:   If you are married to an American Citizen you don't automatically become a Citizen.  You must file for citizenship.  The marriage

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions (Names in Azores?)

2008-10-27 Thread Vivian Christy
Hi Kim,   Where would I look for the probates?    Thanks, Vivian --- On Mon, 10/27/08, Kim Rowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Kim Rowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions (Names in Azores?) To: Azores@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, October 27, 2008, 5:

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions (Names in Azores?)

2008-10-28 Thread Kim Rowe
OTECTED]>: -- Hi Kim,   Where would I look for the probates?    Thanks, Vivian--- On Mon, 10/27/08, Kim Rowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Kim Rowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions (Names in Azores?)To: Azores@googlegroups.comDate: Monday, October 27, 200

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2008-10-28 Thread chaska8821
googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 11:04 pm Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions (Names in Azores?) Hi Ronnie, ? Thank you for the great info.? I will try to call and find out any info they have on the time period.? I did search the Santa Barbara County but did not come

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions (Names in Azores?)

2008-10-28 Thread Vivian Christy
nks, Vivan --- On Mon, 10/27/08, Kim Rowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Kim Rowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions (Names in Azores?) To: Azores@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, October 27, 2008, 5:32 PM Hi Vivian,   Try getting the probates for these peop

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2008-10-28 Thread Cheri Mello
I believe it was in 1920 when the change happened. John Vasconcelos knows, but he's gone for the week. I don't know if he'll see this or not. Cheri On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 6:08 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I belive in the early 1900's (before 1920) if your husband became a > citizen,the w

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions (Names in Azores?)

2008-10-28 Thread nancy jean baptiste
When I looked at the dates on this I noticed that Manuel b. 1871 is said to have fathered his 1st child at 6 years old.mistake? Nancy --- On Fri, 10/24/08, Marcio Borba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Marcio Borba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] R

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions (Names in Azores?)

2008-10-28 Thread Kim Rowe
time.  So I only have the internet.  I will research the how to on the web site for genealogy like Cheri Mello suggested.  Thanks, Vivan--- On Mon, 10/27/08, Kim Rowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Kim Rowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions (Names in Azores?)

2008-10-29 Thread Vivian Christy
enealogy] Re: Questions (Names in Azores?) To: Azores@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, October 28, 2008, 12:44 AM Hi Vivian,   You said you have the obits for Primo Sousa that died in 1930 and Isabel Sousa that died in 1936.  What state & county did they die in so I can try to guide

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions (Names in Azores?)

2008-10-29 Thread Vivian Christy
filed don't you?  Thanks, Vivian --- On Tue, 10/28/08, Cheri Mello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Cheri Mello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions (Names in Azores?) To: Azores@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, October 28, 2008, 10:07 AM I believe it was

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions (Names in Azores?)

2008-10-29 Thread Vivian Christy
o the LDS to look at the film once they have it.   Thanks again for your help.  Vivian --- On Tue, 10/28/08, Kim Rowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Kim Rowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions (Names in Azores?) To: Azores@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, Oct

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions (Names in Azores?)

2008-10-29 Thread Cheri Mello
Vivian, In 1940 the Alien Registration (Smith Act) was passed. Your grandfather would have had to register. You can find out if your grandmother was registered or not. You can find out more information and the form you will need to mail in to get this info here: http://homepage.mac.com/kmacardo

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions (Names in Azores?)

2008-10-29 Thread chaska8821
checo Genealogy -Original Message- From: Vivian Christy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 10:37 am Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions (Names in Azores?) Hi Cheri and Jessica,? My Grandmother married my Grandfather in 1918 but

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions (Names in Azores?)

2008-10-29 Thread Vivian Christy
Hi Cheri,   I thought I had read the how to on that web site.  Will go over it again.  Thanks for the info. Vivian --- On Wed, 10/29/08, Cheri Mello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Cheri Mello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions (Names in Azores?

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions (Names in Azores?)

2008-10-30 Thread Vivian Christy
EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions (Names in Azores?) To: Azores@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, October 29, 2008, 2:00 PM Hi Vivian, I noticed Cheri's response to your email and