RE: [backstage] Flash required?

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > I think it's amusing when I see people bemoan the use of Flash for > > things that sure, can be done in AJAX etc. > I would recommend never using Flash. > By using Flash the BBC is forcing users to enter into a legal > contract with a third party, just to use the BBC'

RE: [backstage] Flash required?

> Flash is binary code which executes directly on my CPU and > has access to all the files at my privilege level (i.e. ALL > my personal files). > Which part of this don't you understand? It is not that a > flash program on a website could be a threat, it's that the > Flash Player itself could

RE: [backstage] Flash required?

> > Back when I used to use Windows I had real security issues > > with Real > > Player. It looked an awful lot like a Trojan to me. > Most things on Windows look like trojans to me. The fact that > Real looked bad for you on windows doesn't make it bad for me > on GNU/Linux or Sol, or whatever

RE: [backstage] Flash required?

> and here's a reason for the BBC's ogg trials ceasing (which > might not be true, I don't know, it's not an offical source) > http://lists.gllug.org.uk/pipermail/gllug/2004-January/041215.html I remember listening to the launch day of BBC 6music via Ogg at my desk in Bush House :) Ah, happy

RE: [backstage] Flash required?

This is all my personal opinion. > Or has the BBC examined it's source code and is it willing to guarantee that this software is free from any malicious code? For every anti-Flash zealot yelling "Flash isn't Free Software", there are millions of people using flash without any problems at all. Tr

Re: [backstage] Flash required?

Andy, If you loathe the BBC's online content, policy and delivery methods as much as you appear to, what are you doing on a list which (in theory) is dealing with repurposing and mashing up content, specifically BBC content? Whatever you (and various others) may think, this isn't the "Repeatedly

RE: [backstage] Flash required?

On Tue, 2007-03-06 at 10:06 +, Jason Cartwright wrote: > For every anti-Flash zealot yelling "Flash isn't Free Software", there > are millions of people using flash without any problems at all. Because Flash isn't Free Software, I cannot use it. Not through zealotry or paranoia, but because i

Re: [backstage] Flash required?

Jason Cartwright wrote: Why isn't the BBC spending my money wisely by making my child a flash game? Because it makes Mike "TechCrunch" Arrington angry? We can't have that. Scot - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk

RE: [backstage] Flash required?

> sites which make flash _mandatory_, with no alternative, are generally a bad idea (and of dubious legality in some cases, given disability legislation). As you can see from the guideline I sent around yesterday that should never happen on a BBC site... "If a user does not have the correct plug-

Re: [backstage] Flash required?

On 06/03/07, Andrew Bowden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If you're worried about threats to your computer, don't turn it on. So you are saying that if I use my PC, I should not bother securing it at all? And hey, one was even found in the email service you're using... http://www.google.co.uk/sea

Re: [backstage] Flash required?

On 06/03/07, Andrew Bowden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: And that's before you've got an operating system installed - even Linux isn't without its legalities (GPL etal) Actually, you can use GPL'd software without agreeing to the GPL; however as the GPL gives you Certain rights, the software fa

RE: [backstage] Flash required?

> Are you joking? People can create a huge amount of revenue by doing just that. Do youever get a spam email? The majority of that comes from boxes that have been taken over by someone other than the legitimate owner. You are suggesting that Adobe may knowingly put code in their apps to send spam?

RE: [backstage] Flash required?

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > On 06/03/07, Andrew Bowden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If you're worried about threats to your computer, don't turn it on. > So you are saying that if I use my PC, I should not bother > securing it at all? No, I'm saying that security issues are not a one-application

Re: [backstage] Flash required?

On 06/03/07, David Woodhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Because Flash isn't Free Software, I cannot use it. Not through zealotry or paranoia, but because it just doesn't exist for the computer I'm sitting in front of right now (Linux/PPC64) or my laptop (Linux/PPC). -- dwmw2 Have you tried G

Re: [backstage] Flash required?

Hi Andy, I think that your point is worthy of a straight answer. I believe, based on previous experience, that it will take about three months for you to actually see, or use, an open license Ogg, or other, copy of the data you wish to access, which probably will then be your answer. It is

Re: [backstage] Flash required?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > A bit of trust is needed don't you think? Is it really in Adobe's > interest to put "malicious code" in the flash plug-in? Are you joking? People can create a huge amount of revenue by doing just that. Do youever get a spam email? The majority of that comes from boxes

Re: [backstage] Flash required?

On Tue, 6 Mar 2007 11:08:06 +, Andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Now onto George's email. Hiya. And, FYI, I work for the BBC, in the Interactive TV production. I don't work in Web, or streaming, and tbh don't know about BBC policy on those, and am a little wary because there are people w

Re: [backstage] Flash required?

On 06/03/07, Jason Cartwright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You are suggesting that Adobe may knowingly put code in their apps to send spam? Or are you suggesting that Adobe may knowingly put code in their apps to let other people do that? Both are ridiculous. Why is that ridiculous? I also do no

Re: [backstage] Flash required?

On 3/6/07, Andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 06/03/07, Jason Cartwright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You are suggesting that Adobe may knowingly put code in their apps to > send spam? Or are you suggesting that Adobe may knowingly put code in > their apps to let other people do that? Both are r

[backstage] Starting your Tech Biz: Bootstrapping

Hi Guys, I recently posted a blog about: "Starting your Tech Biz: Bootstrapping". It might be interesting for someone starting a Tech Business. I would love to hear your comments/thoughts on it (if possible on the blog :) ). Cheers, Raj -- Raj Anand Technical Dir

RE: [backstage] Flash required?

> > If you are concerned, maybe you should ask Real? > Tiny problem there, if I am suspecting Real's code what good > is asking them? Well, it might make them realise that people are onto them and that they shouldn't do it :) > > The BBC website uses a few different technologies but yes, > > So

Re: [backstage] Flash required?

On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 11:08:06AM +, Andy wrote: > On 06/03/07, Andrew Bowden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >And that's before you've got an operating system installed - even Linux > >isn't without its legalities (GPL etal) > > GPL only applies if I copy the software. It is not a EULA, it is n

Re: [backstage] Flash required?

On Tue, 2007-03-06 at 14:23 +, Andy Leighton wrote: > A think a lot of the problem is historical. When first used there > wasn't the choice we have today. I would imagine it would be quite a > hard sell to get the suits to agree to replace RealAudio with OGG. That > isn't to say someone sh

Re: [backstage] More news archive prototypes

Jeremy Stone wrote: Matthew Somerville has done some more fantastic tweaks and pokes with the BBC News headline/front page archive that he's been running for quite a while now. :-) Its for Feb 07. http://www.dracos.co.uk/work/bbc-news-archive/tardis/tag-cloud/?t=main-time And all months ba

Re: [backstage] Want a quick bit of beta-testing fun?

Hi James, Probably not quite the place to post this, but I would love to see the Virgin VIP dashboard outside the browser as in on my desktop :-) It has definitely re-ignited my world of Virgin Now back to Pete Tong. RichE On 28 Feb 2007, at 15:50, James Cridland wrote: On 2/2

[backstage] Noise and Signal

Hi All, So as many of you have noticed the Backstage mailing list has really grown in regards to traffic and users. We are honestly enjoying the topics and discussion. We truly believe the future of the BBC exist somewhere in here. However as with all growth, the noise also grows. So I would l

WEB API (was Re: [backstage] Noise and Signal)

On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 07:14:58PM -, Ian Forrester wrote: > So I would like to remind people that the Backstage list is still a > good place to talk shop about the industry, trends, the bbc and > technologies. But were also a place for development and trying out > some of the things discussed

Re: [backstage] Flash required?

At 21:12 + 5/3/07, George Wright wrote: On Mon, 2007-03-05 at 20:43 +, Andy wrote: Credit where credit's due, and the BBC don't deserve much yet, they are doing all the wrong things. DRM = bad idea. Flash = bad idea. Real Player = bad idea. Windows only software = bad idea. Sorry