Re: [backstage] TEDxNorth

2009-07-20 Thread Alia Sheikh
Registration being free and available here: http://www.tedxnorth.com/manchester09/register.php Got a preliminary programme yet Ian?:) Ian Forrester wrote: Hi All, Just a quick note about the series of TEDx - http://www.ted.com/tedx events coming up this summer in the North of England. TEDx

Re: [backstage] TEDxNorth

2009-07-20 Thread Alex Mace
Excuse my ignorance, but what is TED? A quite look at the website tells me plenty about signing up and events going on, but nothing at all about what it is... On 20 Jul 2009, at 09:35, Alia Sheikh wrote: Registration being free and available here:

Re: [backstage] TEDxNorth

2009-07-20 Thread Alia Sheikh
The TED tagline is: Riveting talks by remarkable people, free to the world So get interesting person, make them talk, film it, release. You can view previous ones on the TED site. The quality of the experience therefore depends very much on the interestingness of the speaker. eg:

Re: [backstage] Mobile sites - how wide

2009-07-20 Thread Brian Butterworth
Right. After some considerable messing around, I have created a version of the WURFL system that works on the LAMP server I use. Well, I hope it does. If you have a mobile browser and a few seconds of time, can you point it to http://m.ukfree.tv to verify if your device gets recognised please?

Re: [backstage] Mobile sites - how wide

2009-07-20 Thread Iain Wallace
Trying to match the style/layout of a site to the expected resolution of the device that you think is displaying it is going about it the wrong way - this is why CSS has percentage widths for doing layouts. Or is the question more about what you can send back to the server in order to choose an

Re: [backstage] Mobile sites - how wide

2009-07-20 Thread Alun Rowe
I agree with the first paragraph and then you lose me beyond that. M.whatever.com serving mobile optimised pages using good CSS 'should' work on any platform. If you want to optimise per platform then go ahead but the return is low value IMO. The only platform I'd bother with is iPhone if I

Re: [backstage] Mobile sites - how wide

2009-07-20 Thread Brian Butterworth
Ian, Yes, I agree. The width and height is of the maximum picture size. I'm going to use percentages in the CSS for the textual layout, but the images need to be the right size for the device, in particular the site header. And then there is the question of the phone supporting CSS! I was just

Re: [backstage] Mobile sites - how wide

2009-07-20 Thread Brian Butterworth
2009/7/20 Alun Rowe alun.r...@pentangle.co.uk I agree with the first paragraph and then you lose me beyond that. M.whatever.com serving mobile optimised pages using good CSS 'should' work on any platform. If you want to optimise per platform then go ahead but the return is low value IMO.

Re: [backstage] Mobile sites - how wide

2009-07-20 Thread Iain Wallace
If this is specifically designed for mobile, e.g. m.facebook.com or x.facebook.com and you've already determined if the user is on a mobile device or not, there's not much more on the server you can reliably do to determine the screen size. For more recent smart phones running something Webkit

Re: [backstage] Mobile sites - how wide

2009-07-20 Thread Ciaran Hamilton
On 7/20/09, Brian Butterworth briant...@freeview.tv wrote: If you have a mobile browser and a few seconds of time, can you point it to http://m.ukfree.tv to verify if your device gets recognised please? Works on my Nokia E65: nokia_e65_ver1 device capabilities Width 229, height 210,

Re: [backstage] Mobile sites - how wide

2009-07-20 Thread Brian Butterworth
Iain, Your points are all good. My general idea was to do something like these single tall colum mobile sites. Certain search engines like to have the m. as a prefix to denote a mobile site. http://m.guardian.co.uk/ http://m.guardian.co.uk/or http://www.bbc.co.uk/mobile/index.html or

Re: [backstage] Mobile sites - how wide

2009-07-20 Thread Alun Rowe
We support phones usually through m.domain where the customer pays us to write a specific version otherwise we'd consider graceful degredation to be enough to support the majority of Phones. Writing a mobile version is usually about delivering a significantly stripped and optimised

Re: [backstage] Mobile sites - how wide

2009-07-20 Thread Alun Rowe
People aren't looking for beauty in design on mobile. They usually are looking for specific data to accomplish a set task. Setting a page header using a background tile and an overlayed logo would be suitable in a mobile app IMO Also what about the people who are using the m.domain on

Re: [backstage] Mobile sites - how wide

2009-07-20 Thread Brian Butterworth
Another good mobile site is wikipedia's... http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/It_Felt_Like_A_Kiss http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/It_Felt_Like_A_Kiss 2009/7/20 Alun Rowe alun.r...@pentangle.co.uk People aren't looking for beauty in design on mobile. They usually are looking for specific data to