Re: [BackupPC-users] Anecdote about backup of changing zip files

2009-09-10 Thread higuita
hi all On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 12:04:09 +0100, "Nigel Kendrick" wrote: > domain DOS command called WHAT.COM that returns ERRORLEVEL set to 0-6 > according to the day of week. we use the cygwin gnu date in several scripts, its a lot more useful gdate -d "last week" +%a\\%Y-%m-%d

Re: [BackupPC-users] Anecdote about backup of changing zip files

2009-09-10 Thread Nigel Kendrick
Hi Folks, Lively conversation!! A while back, someone asked how the SQL backups are being done - here's my take: Two batch files, two stored procedures and a few command line tools. * The stored procedures were written by an unknown person. One makes a dump of the given database and verifies it

Re: [BackupPC-users] Anecdote about backup of changing zip files

2009-09-08 Thread Jeffrey J. Kosowsky
Michael Stowe wrote at about 08:27:54 -0500 on Tuesday, September 8, 2009: > > Michael Stowe wrote at about 16:37:36 -0500 on Monday, September 7, 2009: > > > If you care to get your technical information from Microsoft rather > > than > > > conjecture, there's considerable detail available h

Re: [BackupPC-users] Anecdote about backup of changing zip files

2009-09-08 Thread Michael Stowe
> But even for MS SQL server, it seemed to be a version-specific feature > and not everyone runs the latest version. Your link also points out > that a recovery procedure is necessary after a restore. That's mostly correct on both counts -- it depends on which version of Windows, SQL Server, and

Re: [BackupPC-users] Anecdote about backup of changing zip files

2009-09-08 Thread Les Mikesell
Michael Stowe wrote: >> Michael Stowe wrote at about 16:37:36 -0500 on Monday, September 7, 2009: >> > If you care to get your technical information from Microsoft rather >> than >> > conjecture, there's considerable detail available here: >> > >> > http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc

Re: [BackupPC-users] Anecdote about backup of changing zip files

2009-09-08 Thread Michael Stowe
> Michael Stowe wrote at about 16:37:36 -0500 on Monday, September 7, 2009: > > If you care to get your technical information from Microsoft rather > than > > conjecture, there's considerable detail available here: > > > > http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc966520.aspx > > If you care

Re: [BackupPC-users] Anecdote about backup of changing zip files

2009-09-07 Thread Jeffrey J. Kosowsky
Michael Stowe wrote at about 16:37:36 -0500 on Monday, September 7, 2009: > If you care to get your technical information from Microsoft rather than > conjecture, there's considerable detail available here: > > http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc966520.aspx If you care to know that

Re: [BackupPC-users] Anecdote about backup of changing zip files

2009-09-07 Thread Adam Goryachev
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Nigel Kendrick wrote: > > Our 700MB .bak files ZIP down to around 130MB and I was wondering > whether it would be worth taking this offsite, but it may be that > syncing the raw dumps may be quicker. In my case it is definitely quicker... 550MB approx

Re: [BackupPC-users] Anecdote about backup of changing zip files

2009-09-07 Thread Adam Goryachev
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Les Mikesell wrote: > Nigel Kendrick wrote: >> >> Thanks for the stats on ZIPped MS-SQL db files - that has saved me doing >> some tests! > > I believe those stats use rsync -z which you can't do directly in backuppc. Sorry, I should have mentioned th

Re: [BackupPC-users] Anecdote about backup of changing zip files

2009-09-07 Thread Michael Stowe
> But anyway, using VSS does not assure a stable database state. You > would at least need to 'sync' (or stop) the database to ensure such a > state. Now in practice, the database may be robust and you may just > lose the last entry but taking a VSS is not a recommended method. Microsoft recommend

Re: [BackupPC-users] Anecdote about backup of changing zip files

2009-09-07 Thread Jeffrey J. Kosowsky
Michael Stowe wrote at about 14:05:52 -0500 on Monday, September 7, 2009: > It's not necessary, so I don't bother. > > (The Volume Shadow Copy Service notifies the SQL Server writer to quiesce > its data stores, so I/O is stopped during shadow copy creation. It's > automatic.) > > > Do yo

Re: [BackupPC-users] Anecdote about backup of changing zip files

2009-09-07 Thread Jeffrey J. Kosowsky
Michael Stowe wrote at about 12:55:34 -0500 on Monday, September 7, 2009: > > I just use Volume Shadow Services to back up the whole thing at the file > level -- neat, and consistent. > > > Hey, > > > > it's a litle bit off-topic, but can someone post his steps how to get a > > dump of a

Re: [BackupPC-users] Anecdote about backup of changing zip files

2009-09-07 Thread Michael Stowe
It's not necessary, so I don't bother. (The Volume Shadow Copy Service notifies the SQL Server writer to quiesce its data stores, so I/O is stopped during shadow copy creation. It's automatic.) > Do you stop the DB momentarily while making the shadow to make the files consistent? > > -- >Les

Re: [BackupPC-users] Anecdote about backup of changing zip files

2009-09-07 Thread Les Mikesell
Michael Stowe wrote: > I just use Volume Shadow Services to back up the whole thing at the file > level -- neat, and consistent. Do you stop the DB momentarily while making the shadow to make the files consistent? -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ---

Re: [BackupPC-users] Anecdote about backup of changing zip files

2009-09-07 Thread Michael Stowe
I just use Volume Shadow Services to back up the whole thing at the file level -- neat, and consistent. > Hey, > > it's a litle bit off-topic, but can someone post his steps how to get a > dump of a MS SQL database? I have one DB here running with the Express > version for one application and I'd

Re: [BackupPC-users] Anecdote about backup of changing zip files

2009-09-07 Thread Les Mikesell
Nigel Kendrick wrote: > > Thanks for the stats on ZIPped MS-SQL db files - that has saved me doing > some tests! I believe those stats use rsync -z which you can't do directly in backuppc. > I will eventually have to backup MS_SQL servers on 31 sites to a number of > remote locations and so I

Re: [BackupPC-users] Anecdote about backup of changing zip files

2009-09-07 Thread Christian Völker
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hey, it's a litle bit off-topic, but can someone post his steps how to get a dump of a MS SQL database? I have one DB here running with the Express version for one application and I'd like to back it up properly. Thanks, Christian Nigel Kendrick wr

Re: [BackupPC-users] Anecdote about backup of changing zip files

2009-09-07 Thread Nigel Kendrick
Thanks for the stats on ZIPped MS-SQL db files - that has saved me doing some tests! I will eventually have to backup MS_SQL servers on 31 sites to a number of remote locations and so I am currently experimenting with a number of strategies. At the moment, I am backing up as follows: 1) A nigh

[BackupPC-users] Anecdote about backup of changing zip files

2009-09-07 Thread Adam Goryachev
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I have a remote machine which backs up a MS SQL DB and automatically puts it into a dated zip file. I wrote a small script to move these files to another directory where the new filename would have a number 0 - - 6 for the 7 days of the week (so there