Hidden Words Persian 77

2010-06-22 Thread Firouz
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Dear All, I have a question about the Hidden Words Persian 77. O SON OF JUSTICE! In the night-season the beauty of the immortal Being hath repaired from the emerald height of fidelity unto the Sadratu’l-Muntahá, and wept with such a weeping that the concourse on hig

Re: Ablutions

2010-06-22 Thread Susan Maneck
The Baha'i Studies Listserv > You mean the same Imams whom Bahaullah called > " the manifestations of the power of God, and the > sources of His authority, and the repositories of His knowledge, and > the daysprings of His commandments."? As I said, I don't know how authentic those ahadith are. >

Re: Ablutions

2010-06-22 Thread Susan Maneck
The Baha'i Studies Listserv > I would definitely read that ayat spiritually. (And it is my > understanding that that is the typical Hanafi view at least). I would too. The issue here was clearly profaning a holy site. Personally Muslims do not offend me by not letting me go to Mecca any more than

Re: Ablutions

2010-06-22 Thread Gilberto Simpson
The Baha'i Studies Listserv There are many religious Muslims who on religious grounds are critical of how the government of Saudi Arabia treats Muslims who go to visit Islamic sites. On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 11:14 PM, wrote: > The Baha'i Studies Listserv > > > > Well, I seriously doubt if the Sau

Re: Ablutions

2010-06-22 Thread iskandar.hai
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Well, I seriously doubt if the Saudi government, the self proclaimed guardian of Islam, will permit me (a Baha'i), to go on pilgrimage to Kaabah, regardless of the fatwa. Visiting the Kaabah, the tomb of the Prophet and of His daughter, other historical sites and m

Re: Ablutions

2010-06-22 Thread iskandar.hai
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Well, I don't think Islam per se committed any sin. I myself do draw spiritual nourishment from reading the Quran, for example. I am perfectly willing to forgive and forget any and all discrimination and injustice that has been done to me by Muslims in the name of

Re: Rv: possibilites of remembering Shoghi Effendi's birth or passing or some date related to his work?

2010-06-22 Thread Hasan Elías
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Why not? De: Don Calkins Para: Baha'i Studies Enviado: mar, junio 22, 2010 9:40:07 PM Asunto: Re: Rv: possibilites of remembering Shoghi Effendi's birth or passing or some date related to his work? The Baha'i Studies Listserv > >

help with a story

2010-06-22 Thread Hasan Elías
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Hi,   I'm trying to remember a story (probably in Star of West) when 'Abdu'l-Bahá was walking and a believer was walking behind him, the believer want to be like Him treading on his steps, then something happen (I don't remember) and Abdu'l-Bahá turn and said somethin

Re: Ablutions

2010-06-22 Thread Gilberto Simpson
The Baha'i Studies Listserv On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Susan Maneck wrote: > The Baha'i Studies Listserv >> Based on what you said it doesn't even seem to be a Shi'ite issue as >> much as an issue of 16th and 17th century Persia. Do you find such >> teachings in the writings of the Imams?

Re: Rv: possibilites of remembering Shoghi Effendi's birth or passing or some date related to his work?

2010-06-22 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv does anyone would like to answer this? Possibilities of celebrate the Guardian birth or passing or some date related to his work? Nothing authoritative, however I have heard that there was talk of developing a book of retrospective essays on him to be released

Rv: possibilites of remembering Shoghi Effendi's birth or passing or some date related to his work?

2010-06-22 Thread Hasan Elías
The Baha'i Studies Listserv does anyone would like to answer this?   Possibilities of celebrate the Guardian birth or passing or some date related to his work? Of course, this is not with the intention of adding another Bahá’í Holy Day; this is just as a date to remember him and his huge wo

Re: Ablutions

2010-06-22 Thread Gilberto Simpson
The Baha'i Studies Listserv On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 2:00 PM, wrote: > The Baha'i Studies Listserv > > > I believe Islam to be a Divinely ordained religion, just like Judaism, > Buddhism, Christianity, the Baha'i Faith, Zorastrianism, and Hinduism. > > Shelf life is a different story. Ok, so whic

Re: Ablutions

2010-06-22 Thread Susan Maneck
The Baha'i Studies Listserv > Based on what you said it doesn't even seem to be a Shi'ite issue as > much as an issue of 16th and 17th century Persia. Do you find such > teachings in the writings of the Imams? Dear Gilberto. Iran makes up the bulk of the Ithna Asharia sect. It was, after all, the

Re: Ablutions

2010-06-22 Thread iskandar.hai
The Baha'i Studies Listserv I believe Islam to be a Divinely ordained religion, just like Judaism, Buddhism, Christianity, the Baha'i Faith, Zorastrianism, and Hinduism. Shelf life is a different story. The way marriage is actually practiced in most Muslim societies is that a Muslim man is

Re: Ablutions

2010-06-22 Thread Matt Haase
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Just as you might interpret a lot of things from your own Baha'i Faith symbolically and metaphorically, perhaps you may also want to give Islam the same kind of treatment and see what comes from it? I understand that you are upset by what some of the Mullahs have said ab

Re: Ablutions

2010-06-22 Thread Stephen Gray
The Baha'i Studies Listserv I checked Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghusl Other than for required impurities like sex, menstruation, semen, birth, death, etc. Ghusl is also mustahab (praiseworthy, but not obligatory) for friday prayers, prayers in a masjid, before intering ihram, in pr