Re: Baha'i Review

2010-09-14 Thread Naison Jones
The Baha'i Studies Listserv This is interesting reading. http://www.keshertalk.com/archives/2006/07/juancoleyale.php __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:arch...@mail-archive.com Unsubscribe: send a blank email to

Re: Baha'i Review

2010-09-14 Thread Susan Maneck
The Baha'i Studies Listserv This is interesting reading. http://www.keshertalk.com/archives/2006/07/juancoleyale.php I have to agree with this writer of this blog that Juan is inclined to conspiracy theories. As some of you know I initially sided with Juan when he first broke with the

RE: Baha'i Review

2010-09-14 Thread Brill de Ramirez, Susan
The Baha'i Studies Listserv In reviewing the posts over the last number of weeks, I have a request: Would the moderators of this listserve please remind us all of the purpose for this discussion group? I would greatly appreciate that. When individuals come together in good spirit to learn

Re: Baha'i Review

2010-09-14 Thread Susan Maneck
The Baha'i Studies Listserv . If Professor Cole has produced some work that is weak, then I would rather recognize the good scholarly work that he has done and is still doing. If he was a Baha'i, but is no longer, that too is not my business. That is between him and Baha'u'llah. I would much

Re: Baha'i Review

2010-09-14 Thread Jeanine H .
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Dear Susan Brill de Ramirez, The following is just my opinion. Part of the problem may be that this is only a partly-moderated list. Mark needs to give the co-moderator the ability to remove posts if he is not going to monitor this list, and long practice seems to

Re: Baha'i Review

2010-09-14 Thread Stephen Gray
The Baha'i Studies Listserv I didn't know who Juan Cole was, just that Wikipedia had a link to his page from an article. Is he reallly an enemy of the faith? Are Haifan Baha'is really faithful to the Covenant? From: Jeanine H. jeanin...@earthlink.net To:

Re: Baha'i Review

2010-09-14 Thread Tim Nolan
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Haifan Baha'is is a misnomer because it implies that those Baha'is who are faithful to the covenmant are just one of several legitimate Baha'i groups. That is not the case.  The Baha'i community that follows the covenant, and  turns to the Universal House of Justice

Re: Baha'i Review

2010-09-14 Thread Gilberto Simpson
The Baha'i Studies Listserv If you do a search for Juan Cole on Kersher's blog it seems pretty clear he has it in for Juan Cole. If you look at the Wikipedia page on Cole it has what seems to be a more balanced description of the issue with Yale. Cole himself, definitely does not seem to

Re: Baha'i Review

2010-09-14 Thread Gilberto Simpson
The Baha'i Studies Listserv I understand that what you are saying makes sense from your perspective. But then how should a non-Bahai refer to the various groups which all claim to be Bahais and follow the teachings of Bahaullah? On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 1:54 PM, Tim Nolan tnola...@yahoo.com wrote:

Re: Baha'i Review

2010-09-14 Thread Susan Maneck
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Part of the problem may be that this is only a partly-moderated list. Mark needs to give the co-moderator the ability to remove posts if he is not going to monitor this list, and long practice seems to show that he is not. Dear Jeanine, Unfortunately there is an

Re: Baha'i Review

2010-09-14 Thread Jeanine H .
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Dear Susan, Thanks for the clarification. I do wish you could be a full moderator, but if you don't want the job anyway, I certainly understand. A lot of software exists that allows you to remove individual posts without banning the poster. Of course, on a mailing

Re: Baha'i Review

2010-09-14 Thread Tim Nolan
The Baha'i Studies Listserv how should a non-Bahai refer to the various groups which all claim to be Bahais and follow the teachings of Bahaullah? I'm noty interested in telling other people what words to use. The best thing to do is look at the *evidence* and to ignore claims that have no

Re: Baha'i Review

2010-09-14 Thread Stephen Gray
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Haifan Baha'i have alot of assumptions in their claims of sole legitimacy. From: Tim Nolan tnola...@yahoo.com To: Baha'i Studies bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Sent: Tue, September 14, 2010 2:58:57 PM Subject: Re: Baha'i Review The Baha'i

greetings and adieu

2010-09-14 Thread Brill de Ramirez, Susan
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Dr. Maneck, I want to thank you and also Mark for your tireless services in making the Baha'i Studies listserv available these many years. While there are occasional posts that are of value to me in my work, more of the discussions tend in directions distant from my

Re: Baha'i Review

2010-09-14 Thread Susan Maneck
The Baha'i Studies Listserv A lot of software exists that allows you to remove individual posts without banning the poster. Yes, unfortunately we are stuck with the software used by Mark's college for the time being. __ You are subscribed to

Re: Baha'i Review

2010-09-14 Thread Susan Maneck
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Haifan Baha'i have alot of assumptions in their claims of sole legitimacy. And what exactly are those assumptions, Stephen? In your own words, not by reference to some URL. __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as:

Re: Baha'i Review

2010-09-14 Thread Stephen Gray
The Baha'i Studies Listserv They assume that anyone would assume they are the legitimate sect. They assume that only their info is valid info. From: Susan Maneck sman...@gmail.com To: Baha'i Studies bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Sent: Tue, September 14, 2010 4:00:17

Re: Baha'i Review

2010-09-14 Thread Gilberto Simpson
The Baha'i Studies Listserv On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 3:58 PM, Tim Nolan tnola...@yahoo.com wrote: The Baha'i Studies Listserv how should a non-Bahai refer to the various groups which all claim to be Bahais and follow the teachings of Bahaullah? I'm noty interested in telling other people what

Re: Baha'i Review

2010-09-14 Thread Tim Nolan
The Baha'i Studies Listserv I'm leaving this thread for now; I have nothing to contribute beyond what I've already said.  Tim All good art is about something deeper than it admits. --Roger Ebert __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies

Re: Baha'i Review

2010-09-14 Thread dkolacinski
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Stephen, need I remind you that you voluntarily chose to join the Baha'i Faith, and as part of this choice, agreed to certain things?  Prior to making that choice, you were free to explore your own reality, picking and choosing the sources of your beliefs.  Once

Re: Baha'i Review

2010-09-14 Thread Naison Jones
The Baha'i Studies Listserv It's just a link to a blog, why so up in arms? There have been a TON of anti-admin links posted here and when there is one link to a critique of the individual who wrote the attacking paper everyone cries foul. regards