Dear Rich:
Actually, `Abdu'l-Baha did not reverse Himself; it's rather
straightforward if you follow it rather carefully. Here is the thing: as
you know, `Abdu'l-Baha is the Interpreter of Baha'u'llah's mind not
just the Writings of Baha'u'llah; so, `Abdu'l-Baha tells Baha'is that
Baha'u'llah
Dear Ron:
On Mon, 31 Dec 2007, Ursus Maximus wrote:
3. Not only does the Aqdas not make the point about equality of the sexes,
but also instead Women are specifically singled out as being treated
inferior to men in more than one instance. Women are given less inheritance,
(and if that's of
Quoting David Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Indeed shouldst Thou desire to confer blessing upon a servant Thou
wouldst
blot out from the realm of his heart every mention or disposition
except
Thine Own mention; and shouldst Thou ordain evil for a servant by
reason of
that which his hands
If one party to a marriage has gender assignment surgery some time later,
after the marriage, I'd think that the other party might in all likelihood
want to get a divorce. I don't think that the other party will want to
stay in that marriage. Unless there was sort of secret collusion or
agreement
It's Persian translation is online on the author's website but I don't
believe you can find either its German original or its English translation
electronically or online.
Its Persian translation is a 32 MegaByte downloadable .PDF file.
http://www.udoschaefer.com/books_div1.php#crooked
Warm
This is how a Manifestation of God, the Prophet Abraham, gradually
discloses His mission:
006.076
YUSUFALI: When the night covered him over, He saw a star: He said: This
is my Lord. But when it set, He said: I love not those that set.
PICKTHAL: When the night grew dark upon him he beheld a
On Thu, 13 Jul 2006, Gilberto Simpson wrote:
On 7/13/06, Moghaddam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think you will agree that
words should not become barriers to truth.
What's the underlying truth?
-G
---
Ah! The eternal question. Reminds you of the
Please permit me not to engage in this discussion with you.
The issues related to to the human nature of the Prophets of God, their
station, their uniqueness and/or their differences from each other, their
relationship with the Divine, etc., etc. are truly ineffable concepts and
issues and they
Quoting Brent Poirier Attorney at Law [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I have the impression that the Shias have a stronger concept of
the
sinlessness of prophets than most Sunnis. Is that generally true of
Bahais?
My impression is that the Baha'i view of the sinlessness of the Imams
and of
Fatimih
Dear Richard
A mushrik is a person who joins partners with God; it can be translated
as polytheist.
Warm regards,
Iskandar
On Fri, 7 Jul 2006, Richard H. Gravelly wrote:
Am I correct in surmising that mushrik would be translated plasphemous
in English?
Richard.
The discussion about God, the nature of God, etc. in Baha'i theology and
metaphysics is quite extensive and profound but not weird.
Iskandar
On Fri, 7 Jul 2006, Gilberto Simpson wrote:
And it seems very very weird to me to consider someone a mushrik for
saying that the infallibility of the
.
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Dear Janine,
In a sense he is right that the Baha'i Faith is a re-iteration of Islam
I don't think we are getting anywhere. So, I will try to wind down.
Gilberto keeps distorting things, as usual. Anyway, ..
On Thu, 11 May 2006, Gilberto Simpson wrote:
On 5/10/06, Iskandar Hai, M.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 9 May 2006, Gilberto Simpson wrote:
On 5/9/06, Iskandar
Dear Janine,
The religious Shari`ah court in Beba in Egypt issued an edict in the
1920's to the effect that the Baha'i Faith was an independent religion,
not a sect of Islam; that the Baha'i Faith was different from Islam as
Buddhism, Christianity, Judaism, and Islam are all different from each
immediately notify JCCC by email reply and immediately and
permanently delete this e-mail message and any attachments thereto. Thank you.
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Sent: 13 May 2006 16:40
To: Baha'i
radio and TV networks across the globe for all to raed and see.
For the record, I was not raised to hate anyone, nor to hate Sunnis; and
your ad hominem attacks are revolting and disgusting.
Iskandar
On Sat, 13 May 2006, Gilberto Simpson wrote:
On 5/13/06, Iskandar Hai, M.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED
On Tue, 9 May 2006, Gilberto Simpson wrote:
On 5/9/06, Iskandar Hai, M.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 9 May 2006, Gilberto Simpson wrote:
Gilberto:
Thank you, I appreciate it. Of course, people like Abu Hanifa, Imam
Shafi, Imam Nawawi, al-Ghazzali, Imam Malik etc. who
018.109
YUSUFALI: Say: If the ocean were ink (wherewith to write out) the words
of my Lord, sooner would the ocean be exhausted than would the words of my
Lord, even if we added another ocean like it, for its aid.
PICKTHAL: Say: Though the sea became ink for the Words of my Lord, verily
the sea
On Tue, 9 May 2006, Gilberto Simpson wrote:
On 5/8/06, Iskandar Hai, M.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Things didn't magically change in 1844, nor in 610, nor in year 30. Think
continuum.
I do think in terms of continuum. That's why I don't think that a new
Manifestation who will change
sectarian warfare. They are still causing sectarian warfare, and killing,
even now. In Iraq, for instance.
Iskandar
On Tue, 9 May 2006, Gilberto Simpson wrote:
On 5/8/06, Iskandar Hai, M.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 8 May 2006, Gilberto Simpson wrote:
On 5/8/06, Iskandar Hai, M.D
On Tue, 9 May 2006, Gilberto Simpson wrote:
On 5/9/06, Iskandar Hai, M.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, it's primarily your interpretation. Many many scholars, jurists, and
commentatators have had and still have very different interpretations of
jihAd.
Here is a mainstram traditional
On Tue, 9 May 2006, Gilberto Simpson wrote:
On 5/9/06, Iskandar Hai, M.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 9 May 2006, Gilberto Simpson wrote:
On 5/8/06, Iskandar Hai, M.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Iskandar:
Things didn't magically change in 1844, nor in 610, nor in year 30
On Tue, 9 May 2006, Gilberto Simpson wrote:
Gilberto:
Thank you, I appreciate it. Of course, people like Abu Hanifa, Imam
Shafi, Imam Nawawi, al-Ghazzali, Imam Malik etc. who are respected by
Sunni Muslims the world over will be much more prominent and
mainstream. While this or that random
On Sun, 7 May 2006, Gilberto Simpson wrote:
On 5/5/06, Tim Nolan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello Janine,
He feels that the Bahai faith is just a
reiteration of Islam, nothing new.
I don't like absolute claims and so I probably wouldn't say that there
is *nothing* new. But the
On Sun, 7 May 2006, Gilberto Simpson wrote:
cannot
practice bigamy, have a clear cut prohibition against slavery,
Except the Bab and Bahaullah both owned slaves.
-G
The Bab and Baha'u'llah had slaves because They bought them under Islamic
Dispensation shari`ah law before the onset
in the prophet's time there were
certain standards and principles to encourage good treatment and to
encourage the emancipation of slaves.
-Gilberto
On 5/8/06, Iskandar Hai, M.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, 7 May 2006, Gilberto Simpson wrote:
cannot
practice bigamy, have a clear cut
On Mon, 8 May 2006, Gilberto Simpson wrote:
On 5/8/06, Iskandar Hai, M.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, 7 May 2006, Gilberto Simpson wrote:
Baha'u'llah forbids religious warfare, Muhammad
did not forbid this.
Gilberto:
The Bahai writings allow for something called
Dear Janine,
In a sense he is right that the Baha'i Faith is a re-iteration of Islam
but then in that sense the Baha'i Faith is a re-iteration of Judaism,
Christianity, etc., as we believe that the foundation of all religions is
one. The essential and fundamental tenets of all faiths are the
Dear Marleen,
If I'm not mistaken, the beloved Guardian Shoghi Effendi refers to the
unerring pen of `Abdu'l-Baha somewhere in his writings but I can't
recall the context in which he makes that comment about Him.
What is your paper about; and where and when will you publish it?
Warm and
The joke has it that when Voltaire was on his death bed, the priest
asked him: Do you renounce the Devil now? to which Voltaire replied:
Now is not the time to make new enemies.
Warm regards,
Iskandar
Quoting M Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Yes, there are a number of instances in which I think
How can I download it?
When I click on the link, Windows Media Player pops open and starts the
beautiful chant. But I don't know how to download and save it.
With gratitude,
Iskandar
On Sat, 11 Mar 2006, Larry Marquardt wrote:
Dear Friends,
Below is copied a note in regards to this video.
I'm not sure if Kalim's descendants stayed in the Faith; Mirza Majdu'din
was violently opposed to `Abdu'l-Baha and the Guardian. Both Fuad and
Munir Baha'i were descendants of another of Baha'u'llah's brothers. The
name escapes me now.
Good wishes,
Iskandar
On Fri, 3 Mar 2006, dcbowie wrote:
Yes, actually, the news coming from BBC, NPR and some other Western media
on Sunday Feb 26th 2006 is that the event of last Wednesday 2/22nd/2006
and its aftermath may have actually galvanized the Iraqis to become even
more united. The main Sunni political group withdrew from the government
on
http://www.iranian.ws/iran_news/publish/article_13370.shtml when you
scroll down the page to the last picture, you see the picture of a person
holding a placard sign which reads: Behead those who say Islam is
violent. An oxymoronic statement.
Regards,
Iskandar
The information contained
Your interest in promoting tolerance is very gratefully appreciated, dear
Gilberto. I wonder if you can enumerate some prominent, leading Muslim
scholars, clerics, or Islamic countries/governments who have actually
publicly accepted Baha'is as people of the Book.
Regards,
Iskandar
On Thu, 9
What is/was framed in a disparaging way?
On Tue, 7 Feb 2006, Gilberto Simpson wrote:
On 2/7/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But my Muslim father-in-law gave consent
to my marriage partly because in his eyes I was still a Christian
since Baha'i didn't count.
It need not
On Wed, 8 Feb 2006, Gilberto Simpson wrote:
I haven't heard any scholars I would really respect give an opinion on
the issue but I actually wouldn't have a problem with thinking of
say... Seventh Day Adventists or Mormons as Ahl al-Kitab even though
they arguably accept some kinds of
My understanding is that the original negative of the photo has recently
come into the possession of the Universal House of Justice. I mean the
photo in Wikipaedia's site, from Miller's book.
Good wishes,
Iskandar
On Wed, 1 Feb 2006, David Friedman wrote:
It's authentic, it is just not ours.
Dear Hasan:
My understanding is that two shots were taken in one sitting but, I've
been told, Baha'u'llah liked only one of them, the one that's on display
inside the International Archives building.
I gather the original negative for the Wikipaedia photo (i.e., the
picture He did not like) is
My understanding is that this badAA concept/doctrine is a Shi`ii thing. I
don't know if Sunni Muslims have a particular emphasis on it. For Shi`ah
Muslims badAA is when God chnages His mind. The successor the the Shi`ah
6th Imam (Imam J`afar the Truthful) was supposed to be his son Ismael
So pathetic. So inane. Such nonsense.
Quoting Gilberto Simpson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On 1/25/06, Iskandar Hai, M.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This did not come through; so, I'm re-sending it again...
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006, Gilberto Simpson wrote:
Gilberto:
Sure. As a Bahai it makes sense
Actually, it's you, Gilberto, who is being selective.
Just see what the consensus of opinion was on the Wikipaedia links that
Firouz provided.
Regards,
Iskandar
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006, Gilberto Simpson wrote:
I think if you quote selectively you can probably find example of
Shias and Sunnis
This is an erroneus, highly inflammatory, inaccurate and insane comment.
You should apologize, Gilberto. This has been discussed so many times
before.
Disgusted
Iskandar
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006, Gilberto Simpson wrote:
Muslim. I would have more right to dismiss your views as the opinions
to the United States and Canada in 1912 rev. ed.
(Wilmette: Bah' Publishing Trust, 1982), p. 414) [1]
http://bahai-library.com/?file=compilation_holocaust_greater_plan
On 1/25/06, Iskandar Hai, M.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is an erroneus, highly inflammatory, inaccurate and insane
This did not come through; so, I'm re-sending it again...
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006, Gilberto Simpson wrote:
Gilberto:
Sure. As a Bahai it makes sense to you to view Islam uncharitably and
construe it in a rigid unflattering way. While Muslims who view it as
a religion which should actually be
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006, Gilberto Simpson wrote:
Gilberto:
I appreciate the fact that you recognize that. In the past I've had
discussions where Bahais were trying to argue that there are these
huge radical splits and disagreements and that Muslims were hopelessly
divided because of
and religions is come.
Regards,
Iskandar
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006, Gilberto Simpson wrote:
On 1/24/06, Iskandar Hai, M.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006, Gilberto Simpson wrote:
Gilberto:
I appreciate the fact that you recognize that. In the past I've had
discussions
I read somewhere that when He was in Paris, Henri Bergson came to visit
Him and asked Him two questions and left satisfied. Bergson asked Him what
the aim of the Baha'i Faith was and He answered oneness of mankind; he
then asked Him how He thought humanity would come to that goal and He is
`Abdu'l-Baha has prayers and perhaps some Tablets in Turkish.
Regards,
Iskandar
On Thu, 12 Jan 2006, Don Calkins wrote:
What about Turkish? I have heard that he carried on a fair
correspondence in Turkish. If so, did he ever quote the Writings in
Turkish?
Don C
The
Just a quick note:
The Universal House of Justice instructed the National Spiritual Assembly
of the Netherlands to remove Sen's name from the Baha'i community
membership rolls not solely because of his book Church State but
because of a pattern of behavior on his part. That *pattern* of behavior
My understanding is that the TihrAn LSA was elected by a two tier system
from its inception which I think was during `Abdu'l-Baha's lifetime. The
beloved Guardian Shoghi Effendi continued the practice.
The National Spiritual Assembly of Persia was first formed/elected in
1934. Prior to that
On Mon, 21 Nov 2005, you wrote:
I would expect a text from God to be true at whatever level it speaks
at. I'm not eager to insist that the latest discoveries of quantum
physics or relativity are all found in the Quran. But if the Quran
does describe natural phenomena I would expect it to be
http://radicalacademy.com/studentrefphilesmajd.htm
Regards,
Iskandar
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Regards,
Iskandar
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You don't get the point, do you. Or, you just play dumb. No difference
anyhow.
One cannot prove a negative. If you want to challenge or disprove Scott's
point, all you need to do is to produce just one Jewish person from the
banu-Qurayzah tribe. That's all. If you cannot do that, then don't
Dear Tim:
Gilberto is evading an answer. Typical of him; doesn't surprise me. He
can't say yes because it will make him look stupid. And he can't say
no because it would prove your argument. So he evades.
Loving reagrds,
Iskandar
On Thu, 27 Oct 2005, Gilberto Simpson wrote:
On 10/27/05,
Again, another evasive comment that makes no sense at all.
Iskandar
On Thu, 27 Oct 2005, Gilberto Simpson wrote:
On 10/27/05, Scott Saylors [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Gilberto,
On this list most participants would say that something profound changed in
1844.
I understand that. But
And there are still parts of the world where people think and want to live
as they did in the 7th century. Perhpas you might want to go live there in
Saudi Arabia amongst your Wahhabi brethren.
You are making really nonsense and stupid comments, Gilberto.
Iskandar
On Thu, 27 Oct 2005,
Gilberto is willing to hypothesize that, perhaps, the bani-Qurayzah Jews
got absorbed into other communities (but he doesn't give you any evidence
for that, of course) but he doesn't accept the fact that the banu-Qurayzah
got indeed wiped off the face of the earth. This is good.
Iskandar
On
Well, let's see: someone does a bank robbery somewhere. He is caught and
tried and incarcerated. I'd say that's appropriate nowadys, in this day
and age. Now, is it appropriate to cut off his hand? Gilberto avoids this
question and evades to give an answer. I think he knows that we understand
that
They should also be forthright, not evasive, in their answers.
Iskandar
On Fri, 28 Oct 2005, Gilberto Simpson wrote:
On 10/27/05, Dean Betts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well said, Ben.
Unfortunately we all live in an argumentative world which is considered
natural, normal and good by
Again, all you need to do to prove Scott wrong is to produce one (only
one) Jewish person from banu-Qurayzah. You haven't done that. You can't do
that. So, just keep quiet.
Iskandar
On Fri, 28 Oct 2005, Gilberto Simpson wrote:
On 10/27/05, Scott Saylors [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Gilberto:
Another memorable post for the hall of fame of rubbish and non-sensical
comments.
Iskandar
On Fri, 28 Oct 2005, Gilberto Simpson wrote:
On 10/27/05, Susan Maneck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How did they change? (I don't mean, what was the change?, I mean
What was the process by which they
Dear Tim,
Gilberto will not give you a simple, forthright and honest answer. He just
continues to evade and change the subject. And he does that knowingly and
deliberately,
Iskandar
On Fri, 28 Oct 2005, Gilberto Simpson wrote:
On 10/27/05, Tim Nolan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dear
Dear Susan,
Gilberto is hell bent on misrepresenting you, Khazeh, Scott, and others.
He is not going to stop doing that. It's just totally pointless to try to
reason with him because he has left his mind and reasoning power somewhere
in the 7th century on some desert.
Iskandar
On Fri, 28 Oct
Don't worry, Susan. He will always have the last word; just like his
Prophet is the last Prophet.
Warm regards,
Iskandar
On Fri, 28 Oct 2005, Susan Maneck wrote:
Look, we are dropping the thread folks.
Gilberto gets to have the last word. So he gets one more post and then we
shut the
The terms Central Figures and the Three Central Figures were coined by
the beloved Guardian Shoghi Effendi who was an infinitely humble person;
he uses this term in his writings to refer to the blessed Bab,
Baha'u'llah, and to `Abdu'l-Baha. This has nothing to do with binding
nature and
On Thu, 27 Oct 2005, Gilberto Simpson wrote:
On 10/27/05, Scott Saylors [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The outcome of wiping out the males of mature age (old enough to be capable
of bearing arms), then enslaving the women and children DID wipe them out
ethnically just as completely as if the
On Thu, 27 Oct 2005, Gilberto Simpson wrote:
On 10/27/05, Iskandar Hai, M.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 27 Oct 2005, Gilberto Simpson wrote:
Just produce someone from banu-Qurayzah and end the discussion. If you
can't, then just say nothing.
Scott is the one who claimed to know
Another totally stupid argument.
On Thu, 27 Oct 2005, Gilberto Simpson wrote:
On 10/27/05, Tim Nolan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
O.K. How about this:
The Quran says that the punishment for stealing is to have a hand cut off.
Sura 5:
The man thief and the woman thief, cut off the hands
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4368704.stm
-- Forwarded message --
Is fighting for the equality of women a blasphemy???
Sunday, 23 October 2005, 08:52 GMT 09:52 UK
Jail term for Afghan journalist
Ali Mohaqiq Nasab Nasab says he does not
Well, I'm not so sure that there is a Muslim paradigm as such: there is
a Wahhabi Sunni paradigm, there is a Si`ah paradigm, there is a
Sufi/mystical pradigm, a Hanbali Sunni paradigm, a Shafi`i paradigm, etc.,
etc. For example, my understanding is that for a very simple and
straightforward thing
at that time. God doeth whatsoever He willeth and so does His
Manifestation or the Prophet.
Iskandar
Quoting Gilberto Simpson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On 10/20/05, Iskandar Hai, M.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks for your attempts at clarifying the issue; but, with all
due
respect, I'm
For an English translation, go to:
http://www.wilayah.ir/en/library/ajwibah/taharah.php#3-13 and scroll down
to Q 335 and Question 336, 337, and Q 338
This verdict is from Iran's Supreme Religious/Spiritual and political
leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, the Supreme Jurist
Regards,
Iskandar
On
I don't have any particularly compelling reason to belive that the hadith
that the authoritative Bukhari cites is fake but I'd love to be see
compelling evidence that the Prophet Muhammad never said such a thing.
Regards,
Iskandar
On Thu, 20 Oct 2005, Gilberto Simpson wrote:
On 10/19/05,
have
said something like that?
Peace
Gilberto
On 10/20/05, Iskandar Hai, M.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't have any particularly compelling reason to belive that the hadith
that the authoritative Bukhari cites is fake but I'd love to be see
compelling evidence that the Prophet
it.
I think the Bukhari hadith that Hajir shared is straightforward and clear.
I'd take it at its face value. I wouldn't want to neccessarily interpret
it otherwise.
Iskandar
On Thu, 20 Oct 2005, Gilberto Simpson wrote:
On 10/20/05, Iskandar Hai, M.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I certainly wish
Is it appropriate and OK for a listmember to call Khazeh and his honest
and sincere remarks as dishonest and INCREDIBLY dishonest?
Iskandar
On Sun, 16 Oct 2005, Gilberto Simpson wrote:
-- Forwarded message --
From: Gilberto Simpson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Oct 15, 2005 5:24
That's an insulting commento to Khazeh.
On Sun, 16 Oct 2005, Gilberto Simpson wrote:
On 10/16/05, Gilberto Simpson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 10/16/05, Khazeh Fananapazir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dearest Gilberto
i love Islam with all my heart and my soul and mind.
Then why aren't
I doubt if much, or any, progress has been made in recent days on these
threads. Did anyone really change their mind in any minor or major way?
Let's move on
Good wishes,
Iskandar
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http://reference.bahai.org/en/t/ab/SAB/sab-150.html
http://reference.bahai.org/fa/t/ab/SWA1/swa1-188.html
http://reference.bahai.org/fa/t/ab/SWA1/swa1-189.html
Warmest regards,
Iskandar
On Fri, 7 Oct 2005, Barmak Kusha wrote:
Friends and colleagues,
Last night, as I studied and
for
download; but
now I think I should purchase it..
Richard.
- Original Message -
From: Iskandar Hai, M.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Baha'i Studies bahai-st@list.jccc.edu
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 4:00 PM
Subject: Re: Kitab-i-Iqan
Have you consulted Dr. Buck's book already
Very sad news indeed, dear Khazeh jAn, especially disturbing was
Zarqawi's open and public declaration, on his audio tape, of war on the
Shi`ites.
Regards,
Iskandar
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Yesterday, Wednesday, was another bad day: a dozen acts of violence in
one day with more than 150 people dead in one single day in Baghdad,
just two weeks after the horrible and tragically devastating stampede of
Wednesday August 31st 2005 when more than 1000 persons perished.
Iskandar
It's been one week since the tragic event in Baghdad on Wednesday August
31st took the lives of more than 1000 pilgrims.
I'd like for us to continue to offer prayers for the souls of the
departed, for the consolation of their relatives and family members, and
for the overall protection of
They say with their tongues what is not in their hearts.
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If I'm not mistaken, I guess what Max is trying to say is that actions
have consequences. When one rejects and opposes the counsel and command of
the Divine Physician, there are consequences.
Iskandar
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particularly presumptuous to claim to be able to discern God's will
for particular situations in that way.
Peace
Gilberto
On 9/3/05, Iskandar Hai, M.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If I'm not mistaken, I guess what Max is trying to say is that actions
have consequences. When one rejects
, tolerant and peace-loving majority. I wasn't trying to undo any
positive vibe at all.
Iskandar
On Fri, 2 Sep 2005, Gilberto Simpson wrote:
On 9/1/05, Iskandar Hai, M.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Religious strife sectarian violence is indeed a devouring flame.
Iskandar
Manifestation of God, the Inaugurator of a new Dispensation (religion).
Iskandar
On Fri, 2 Sep 2005, Gilberto Simpson wrote:
On 9/2/05, Iskandar Hai, M.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm trying to emphasize that religious animosity and warfare and sectarian
hatred and violence are really really
discussion. Otherwise we welcome your
comments and suggestions.
Iskandar
On Fri, 2 Sep 2005, Gilberto Simpson wrote:
On 9/2/05, Iskandar Hai, M.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I guess I understand now what your question is.
More a suggestion than a question.
Peace
Gilberto
On Fri, 2 Sep 2005, Gilberto Simpson wrote:
Every time there was a transition in leadership (Bab, Bahaullah,
Abdul-Baha, Shoghi Effendi, UHJ) there was a split between those who
took one fork and those who went some other way.
That's all I'm saying.
Peace
Gilberto
Yes, of course, in my understanding of the Baha'i Sacred Writings. And in
the understanding of Sekhmet, Scott, and Hasan as well.
Since you can read/understand Persian, dear Max, please check a passage
from `Abdu'l-Baha on pages 299-300 of amr va khalq Volume 1
Dear Max and dear Mark:
I wasn't offended by Max's remark because, in a sense, the understanding
of each and every one of us is limited anyhow. Again, according to my
own limited understanding.
As I pointed out a Persian passage by `Abdu'l-Baha on pages 299-300 of
Volume 1 of amr wa khalq
I just realized that yesterday Wednesday was the anniversary of the
arrival of Baha'u'llah and some 70+ of His followers, relatives and
family members in the desolate prison city penal colony of `Akka in the
mid-afternoon of August 31st 1868 after a long and harrowing sea journey
from
As devastating and horrifyingly shocking the event of Wednesday was, one
should pause to remember that man-made disasters have been brought upon
the people of Iraq and the Arabian peninsula for over 200 years as a
result of sectarian violence: in 1802 the Wahhabis attacked and conquered
Mecca and
.
Peace
Gilberto
On 8/30/05, Iskandar Hai [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You finally got it, I'd imagine. Phew!
Quoting Gilberto Simpson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On 8/30/05, Iskandar Hai [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks Rich for your clarifications. I agree with you; you made
my
points
nothing, and let the abuse go on.
For the record, I do *NOT* have a low opinion of you. I honestly do not.
Iskandar
Quoting Gilberto Simpson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On 8/31/05, Iskandar Hai [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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I'm not and I was not trying to score points either. You are
mistaken
Dear Ron:
I suspect that her internet access has been cut off by hurricane Katrina
but I hope pray that she herself and her son are safe, healthy, and
secure. This was a very devastating storm.
Good wishes,
Iskandar
Quoting Ursus Maximus [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hello Dr. Maneck,
Did you
Quoting Gilberto Simpson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On 8/31/05, Iskandar Hai [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You either misunderstand me or you are deliberately misrepresenting
my
points. I'd guess it's the latter case; but, it doesn't matter
much
anyhow.
You keep saying that over and over again. You
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