Katherine Griebel wrote:
Hi Roger Robin,
My sincerest wishes go out to you and yours that you will survive
and come through this devastating time of physical, mental, emotional and
spiritual hard times. I guess it is one day at a time, eh!! For the
last two days, it seems that I
because I do not contribute in
the same amount as say Steve Storch or Lloyd Charles or whoever makes me a
lurker and not as worthwhile a contributor as someone else?. Is Hugh Lovel
regared as a lurker because he conducts a watching brief on what is going
on
through the list. Would you
To categorise a list member on the basis of how much they contribute and
what they say demeans the value of any contribution to the list.
James, Lloyd, et al --
I realize this discussion morphed somewhat, but I'm sad to see that
it has taken a turn that has disturbed some people. I'd
Diana - It would help to know if the afflicted animal has had a fecal
exam/diagnosis.
Thanks -Allan
Allan,
The original reason 'lurking' was brought up under
the 'personal
security' topic is because there are many people who
lurk on bd now
because they do not want their posts to be preserved
forever in
public arhives.
Just to chime in, that is an issue for me. I don't
like that
Monsanto submitted its petition for comm. of GE
Wheat... Merla
Hello all,
I wasn't able to participate in the GE wheat thread. I got this from the
Pesticide Action Network last week on GE Grass. A shame that we need to use and
rely on the courts to bring awareness and halt introductionof
Title: FW: [globalnews] Spiritual Insight: Use It or Lose It
NOETIC ENERGY
Man is not meant to propitiate elementals or mechanically perform
rituals, but rather to elevate self-consciousness and establish a
proper relation with divine ideas. As with the development of any
faculty, the
Title: FW: The Importance of Twilight, Related to the Pisces-Virgo Axis and Liminal Consciousness
This post below from Curtis speaks to some of what Mary Stewart Adams wrote in War, Mars the Divine Feminine (forwarded by the other Jane on this list [via Storch] posted on Nov. 21 subject: Mars
Is it possible that if potential employers would hold your personal beliefs
and interests/hobbies against you that perhaps you wouldn't want to work for
such people? And if they would use such measures as checking you out in a
search engine and then judging you on such information instead of your
Is it possible that if potential employers would hold your personal beliefs
and interests/hobbies against you that perhaps you wouldn't want to work for
such people? And if they would use such measures as checking you out in a
search engine and then judging you on such information instead of your
Dear Bruno:
I wonder if you or other members of the BD Forum have had other experiences
with
dustings with diatomaceous earth.
Thanks a lot,
Luis R. Calzadilla
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 11:07
Here is a resource that is now available.
The Soil Foodweb Multi-Media CD
Featuring slides and video from Dr. Elaine Ingham.
$44.95
*Multi-media presentation on Soil Foodweb
*Slide collection in medium resolution jpg images
*Slide legend
*Movie clips
*Interactive self-learning slide presentation
Santa Fe's Land, Farms and Families:
Steps Toward Environmental and Economic Renewal
Santa Fe could readily establish environmental oases on open land,
use water wisely, and provide both good jobs and fresh, clean food
for its families and households, says local writer Steven McFadden.
The
Allan -
Silence is complicity, as the saying goes.
You present your views as though they are views that everyone should share
and that, if someone doesn't share them, they either just don't understand
(as in what you said below to Jane), or they are just plain
unenlightened. It is fine that
Steve - Do you have dates on these presentations? Are these the 'old'
CDs or are they a new series.
It was interesting. Last year at ACRES Elaine was hawking CDs. This
year she wasn't doing that at either my confernece or ACRES.
New stuff or old stuff?
Thanks -Allan
I understand it like this.
The Audio CD's mentioned are the original ones,
and therefore same as anything you've seen before,
and therefore old.
Yet, The Soil Foodweb Multi-Media CD is
new as far as being available for sale.
It was in production and on-hold while business
dealings between SFI
Listen, also, however, to those who have made the choice to speak
out, or to step forward, and respect them for their choices.
Essie - How do you suggest BD NOW! could provide for the above while
respecting the wishes of those who would like to do their good works
outside of the public eye?
I realize this discussion morphed somewhat, but I'm sad to see that
it has taken a turn that has disturbed some people. I'd like to get
the discussion back on it's original focus.
The original reason 'lurking' was brought up under the 'personal
security' topic is because there are many
Whatever that means.
From: Allan Balliett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 14:45:42 -0500
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: LURKING was Re: Personal Security / Insecurity
Me thinks, Jane, per chance you have no idea what the rest of us go through.
Thank you for writing more eloquently what I felt about this thread, Essie!
Blessings,
Jane
From: Essie Hull [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 16:02:51 -0500
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: LURKING was Re: Personal Security / Insecurity
I do believe
- Original Message Jane Sherry
Re: LURKING was Re: Personal Security / Insecurity
Is it possible that if potential employers would hold your personal
beliefs
and interests/hobbies against you that perhaps you wouldn't want to work
for
such people? And if they would use such measures as
Allan (and Chris) are right. This very thing happened a few weeks
ago. Someone forwarded me a lengthy message about how we all
should boycott McDonald's restaurant chain because they're
importing beef, not using our own US cattle, etc. The post was, by
all appearances, signed by Dr. David
Oh, if only.
Peace,
Chris
--- Jane Sherry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is it possible that if potential employers would
hold your personal beliefs
and interests/hobbies against you that perhaps you
wouldn't want to work for
such people? And if they would use such measures as
checking you out in
Seems to me that the issue could only be resolved by a vote and I do not
know how that could be implemented.
I think that the preference for either protecting the archives or leaving
them in the public domain comes down to one's personal value system. There
are many idealists among bd-people,
Whatever that means.
From: Allan Balliett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 14:45:42 -0500
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: LURKING was Re: Personal Security / Insecurity
Me thinks, Jane, per chance you have no idea what the rest of us go through.
In a message dated 1/20/2003 4:54:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
For goodness sakes (another cliché, maybe more useful than 2 cents) why
bother having any beliefs at all if you are going to cower in silence every
time you are tested? Money is not the only issue here. It's
Hi all
Understanding whole-heartedly what the Americans face, I'm in agreeance with
Frank, James, Barbara and Jane. When reading the posts on this topic,
duality is what keeps springing up. This to me emphasis the times we are in
and how the 2 sides are needing to be brought together. Unsure
Am visualizing orgone-like squiggles as best
as I can recall SteveStorch's description of them some time back.
Thanks for bringing this up Lily, I've been wanting to ask sstorch about
these. For months I have been witnessing squiggles, only in the early
morning. They have not been visible
Where is the beef being imported FROM? That is important to some. Michael
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 2:36 PM
Subject: so true, so true
Allan (and Chris) are right. This very thing happened a few weeks
ago.
I wonder if you or other members of the BD Forum have had other experiences
with dustings with diatomaceous earth.
Try a generous dusting with diatomaceous earth, also add to feed..
Dusting or feeding DE to animals is a great way to give yourself (and other
innocent victims) in the barn or
DE is one of those things that are often recommended, but seldom
endorsed through experience.
I've dusted a lot of crops with DE back in the early days, mostly for
slugs. I don't think I EVER felt that it actually worked, if dusted,
or even if put into (very expensive!) dykes around at-risk
Michael Roboz asked:
Where is the beef being imported FROM? That is important to some. Michael
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- Original Message -
From: Liz Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 11:13 AM
Subject: lurking...security
Hi Liz, James, Jane et al.
I think we've gotten many
miles away from what this discussion
Allan,
Why do you persist in your fear mongering with this thread? What makes you
think that your one experience of losing a job offering based upon one
experience of someone looking up your track record on the internet is a
common one to be experienced by folks contributing to this list?
How
I endorse Liz's post in its entirety. The reason for this about-face is
very simple. I was so frightened last Saturday you would hardly believe
it, and that was without facing the horror experienced by people who
live in (and in some cases behind) the 'bushland' suburbs. It has been
very
Liz: 4? ...at what relative distance?
Next time you feel a sneeze coming on, be looking up into the sky,sneeze,
and tell what you seemanfred
- Original Message -
From: Liz Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 7:13 PM
Subject: was Canberra
Charles wrote: The only people who would be affected are the busybody
cruisers that are there either by accident or to cause mischief.
How do you stop pepole who want to cause mischief from obtaining a
password? What will be the criteria for being eligible for obtaining the
password?
Sorry, Lloyd, to address you by your last name. Didn't mean to, got mixed
up.
Regards,
Christiane
Allan and others -
It seems to me that as a public we are inundated, force fed with bad works.
People who only have the media-driven force feeding for a diet don't know
that they have choices, but it is my experience that many people are
remarkable when supported, respected and given real
Will Winter wrote: Dusting or feeding DE to animals is a great way to give
yourself (and other innocent victims) in the barn or stable LUNG CANCER. It is
just like inhaling tiny slivers of glass, e.g. SILICOSIS.
Good call, Will!
Gil
Liz said:
If this link went underground we would be stifling the link that 2000+ / wk
tap into. Research in this area is indicating that the minority (us) is now
growing at a rapid rate, should we not nurture and feed rather than be
silenced?
You know, one thing that is evident to most
Jane -
I really do not understand why my discomfort and the discomfort of
others with the way the archives are set up currently is not enough
for you.
I've chosen to be responsible for the welfare of many. There are 5
other mouths at my table, Jane.
Compassion, please.
Let me know, ok?
Essie said:
I don't know how to balance it all, actually. I don't have any
issue with those who want to be more private, I guess - but I don't
think that going underground keeps anyone safe, and I do think that
going underground inhibits the effort and keeps the numbers of the
faithful
Dear Lloyd,
This mail was not personally aimed at you. It derived from a sense of
frustration that sometimes the most trite of subjects can keep the list
going for weeks, yet when you mail on your techniques, which I think are
part of the cutting edge of farming you are scratching to get an
In a message 2 days ago I wrote:
The speed of advance cancelled out all warnings, sentient and
spiritual. Not even devas can predict everything. But - at 3pm
yesterday afternoon my wife Robin was on our tile roof cleaning out
the gutters (which I couldn't do because I can't handle heights
This is as interesting to me as it gets:
the dynamics of discernment re our perceived status of unique
community...presumably dedicated to blessing the larger whole.. with many
levels of food.
Of course, the elements of potential concern re the larger whole are also
present in this group.
A
The following references should corroborate Peter-R. Koenig's finding that
Steiner had no involvement with OTO(http://www.cyberlink.ch/~koenig/steiner.htm)
and shouldclarify Steiner's attitude even toward less controversial
"Orders": Chapter XXXVI of Steiner's autobiography, and letters of
- Original Message -
From: James Hedley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: Personal Security / Insecurity
Dear Lloyd,
This mail was not personally aimed at you. It derived from a sense of
frustration that sometimes the most
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