[Newbies] this is a test please ignore

2009-09-06 Thread stephane ducasse
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[Newbies] another test please ignore

2009-09-06 Thread stephane ducasse
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Re: [Newbies] Where to ask questions - Squeak Beginners and Squeak Dev?

2009-07-16 Thread stephane ducasse
Hi frank I battled a lot to impose this mailing-list because I felt that newbies were afraid asking questions. And this mailing-list is wonderful. Feel free to post here or on squeak-dev. There is no specific rules. This mailing-list was just created so that you feel free to ask any

Re: [Newbies] Re: Which environment

2009-01-13 Thread stephane ducasse
On Jan 10, 2009, at 3:15 PM, Stephan Eggermont wrote: I would think synchronizing with SBE would make sense. Yes you could use the SBE image. Because we got a lot of problem with the IDE changes in squeak-dev and friends. I don't know what they are planning, but would guess they're waiting

Re: [Newbies] squeak locks up on windows / help me debug it...

2009-01-13 Thread stephane ducasse
On Jan 10, 2009, at 12:19 PM, Herbert König wrote: Hello Cameron, CS I see that another Windows user has reported a lock-up on this forum just CS last month. Perhaps I will back up and see if 3.9 is a better starting CS point. 3.8? Squeak should be a stable development System for many

Re: [Newbies] squeak locks up on windows / help me debug it...

2009-01-13 Thread stephane ducasse
On Jan 10, 2009, at 12:19 PM, Herbert König wrote: Hello Cameron, CS I see that another Windows user has reported a lock-up on this forum just CS last month. Perhaps I will back up and see if 3.9 is a better starting CS point. 3.8? Squeak should be a stable development System for many

Re: [Newbies] Porting an old app to a recent image

2008-10-10 Thread stephane ducasse
this is really strange. can you select one class of your app and fileout it and send it? stef On Oct 9, 2008, at 3:37 PM, Matthias Korn wrote: Hi, I already tried to fileIn a minimal part (one Morph class) of the application I want to port and started resolving the errors in the debugger one

Re: [Newbies] custom halos

2008-10-10 Thread stephane ducasse
You are facing the nonOOP aspect of certain ugly parts of queak. The fact that halosmorph cannot be defined per class is striking. Nice to have a kind of global var, this is were squeak lost OOP. Once someone fixed that but it was never integrated (probably in 3.7 or 3.8 days). For my book I

Re: [Newbies] keyboard shortcuts in OmniBrowser

2008-10-10 Thread stephane ducasse
if you load polymorph (UI enhancements - pay attention to read the web install pages to uncomment a method) you get tab and can use the browser and navigate using keys. Stef On Oct 4, 2008, at 11:13 PM, Mark Volkmann wrote: Is it possible to use OmniBrowser without using a mouse? For

Re: [Newbies] coverage tool

2008-09-28 Thread stephane ducasse
there was christo. stef On Sep 28, 2008, at 3:10 AM, Mark Volkmann wrote: Is there a code coverage tool for Squeak? When I run my suite of unit tests, I want to know if there is any code within the classes in category I'm testing that wasn't executed by the tests. --- Mark Volkmann

[Newbies] new Smalltalk videos

2008-07-14 Thread stephane ducasse
Hello I started to redo my old Smalltalk videos and I would like to get some feedback before putting a soundtrack in french and english. I will be looking for somebody with a good english accent and a mac to help for the english soundtracks.

Re: [Newbies] Mac OS X... proper installation?

2008-05-25 Thread stephane ducasse
Hi aaron you can take the seaside distribution If you click on it and ask show contents... you will see the image and the source and the package folder. Else you can take 3.9 full. stef On May 21, 2008, at 10:40 PM, Aaron Broad wrote: Hi, I'm new to smalltalk/squeak. Trying to learn

Re: [Newbies] Remove old instances of a Class

2008-05-25 Thread stephane ducasse
You can also use trick like each become: String new to swap references to empty object that will be garbaged. On May 24, 2008, at 11:54 PM, Claus Kick wrote: why not just do MyClass allInstances do:[:i | i := nil]. Smalltalk unusedMemory. (Cannot recall if unusedMemory triggers a

Re: [Newbies] SAR Files

2008-05-25 Thread stephane ducasse
Hi It seems that speech is already in 3.9 Pay attention that klatt does not work with frnech like language :) Luciano sent me some more files so if you need I can dig on my HD. Stef On May 24, 2008, at 2:37 AM, Jeffery Billing wrote: I am interested in using the 'Speech' package. These are

Re: [Newbies] Collection subclasses

2008-04-07 Thread stephane ducasse
normally initialize instance side method is automatically invoked when you send the message new. Now for some collections this behavior has been optimized because it was not doing what it should do (unnnecessary initialization). Stef On Apr 3, 2008, at 4:31 AM, Rob Rothwell wrote: If I

Re: [Newbies] SBE and Squeak versions out-of-sync?

2008-04-01 Thread stephane ducasse
This is strange that the novice mode was on on the sqeuak-dev image. Can you check on your original image that it was the case? Can you also tell us what is the default browser? Stef On Mar 29, 2008, at 6:02 AM, David Finlayson wrote: I'm on vacation and learning Smalltalk is how I'm spending

Re: [Newbies] Installation Scripts

2008-03-23 Thread stephane ducasse
note that if you use Monticello you always have all your packages stored in your defautl folder as a cache so you cannot lose anything if you publish on squeaksource, and do a backup of your disc since your cache will cotnain all your packages. stef On Mar 21, 2008, at 11:38 PM, Rob

Re: [squeak-dev] Re: [Newbies] Seaside vs. AIDA

2008-03-21 Thread stephane ducasse
Rob have a look at the seaside mailing-list archive! I'm not sure that it is possible to get more support and feedback than there is **any** mailing-list. Stef On Mar 20, 2008, at 11:06 PM, Rob Rothwell wrote: Leon, I am both new to Smalltalk (been staring at an empty browser for a

[Newbies] Re: [squeak-dev] [ANN] An Introduction to Seaside

2008-03-15 Thread stephane ducasse
Lukas and me are finishing also a seaside book (with David and Rick). It will be open-source and creative common based. It will be also published by squarebracket associates and available via lulu. Dear all, We would like to announce that we are about to publish an extended and improved

Re: [Newbies] TestFailure: Assertion failed in first practice from Squeak by Example

2007-12-10 Thread stephane ducasse
Hi Eric On 10 déc. 07, at 21:48, Eric Eisaman wrote: Hell Squeakers, At home I went through the first half of the Squeak by Example book. The guided practice went without a hitch however, when I worked through the first practice of writing a simple String method at work, on a different

Re: [Newbies] traits question

2007-11-08 Thread stephane ducasse
On 6 nov. 07, at 19:39, itsme213 wrote: Can method names be re-mapped when I apply a trait? How? you can use aliasing but it just introduce a new name for the method (it is not a rename sends are not renamed). Also, if yes, can the same trait be used multiple times to the came class

[Newbies] Re: Delete translations

2007-10-25 Thread stephane ducasse
to take on the task of harvesting interesting things from the OLPC etoys update stream. yes I would like to do this task if I participate to the 3.11 Now I was wondering how I could keep tracks of this (besides reading the changesets) - Bert - On Oct 23, 2007, at 7:35 , stephane ducasse

Re: [Newbies] Delete translations

2007-10-23 Thread stephane ducasse
Bert How do you store the translations? Because it would be cool to get them per packages as ressources package. I know that OLPC does not have mc but it would be good for Squeak. I would like to see a merge or flow from OLPC new features to Squeak. What would be the process to make sure that

Re: [Newbies] Morphic event-handling confusion

2007-03-18 Thread stephane ducasse
here is an example of drag and drop and repel :) DragAndDropRepel.3.cs Description: Binary data Have fun On 15 mars 07, at 07:31, Max OrHai wrote: I'm trying to use Morphic, in Squeak 3.9, to make a very simple physics model I call a HockeyPuck. The idea is that it's a CircleMorph

Re: [Newbies] Morphic event-handling confusion

2007-03-18 Thread stephane ducasse
could you sahre your result? May be publish it on Squeaksource.com? Stef On 18 mars 07, at 07:27, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, I already got it working, which was in fact a very satisfying experience. My previous failure was using a handlesMousedown method, rather than

Re: [Newbies] BlockClosurefork problem

2007-02-28 Thread stephane ducasse
On 20 févr. 07, at 21:55, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On Feb 20, 2007, at 21:28 , George Herolyants wrote: Thanks for this answer, Ron. But actually I'm not confused with order in wich '1' and '2' presents in result line. I can't understand why in some cases this code results ten '1' and ten

Re: [Newbies] Ralph Johnson video lectures on Smalltalk

2007-02-13 Thread stephane ducasse
The videos are copyrighted by the university so ralph cannot give them for free. Now he was teaching in VW and switched to Squeak recently Stef On 9 févr. 07, at 23:25, Michael Davies wrote: I've just found a link to a set of videos and lecture notes from Ralph Johnson's lectures on

Re: [Newbies] I want my old adult Squeak back

2007-01-20 Thread stephane ducasse
Do not say it too loud! We should not have fun we are serious programmers. Real programmers like complex languages. :) Stef On 20 janv. 07, at 16:37, Henry Lenzi wrote: On 1/20/07, stephane ducasse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't let kids play with Squeak! This is an adult software! Stef

Re: [Newbies] How to persist my preferences?

2007-01-02 Thread stephane ducasse
You can save a little class with some class method and invoke your change MySetup install. And you can version that in MC. Note that you could use the class initialization initialize method (which is automatically invoked when the class is loaded) but pay attention that reloading in MC does

Re: [Newbies] indenting code

2006-12-13 Thread stephane ducasse
You can find some hints in the book of kent Beck Best smalltalk practices. He stresses the idea to have recognizable block. I like the following. Damien Pollet did Gutenberg a new pretty printer for squeak. Giving him feedback is the best way to see it improved. fooMethod my comment

Re: [Newbies] notation

2006-11-29 Thread stephane ducasse
Dave normally is not part of a method definition. Just the what is after it. in the browser. is used by authors to give contextual information. Now in Squeak you can do Point#x to get the compiled method x of class Point but this is query the meta information of classes.

Re: [Newbies] including Traits in Squeak 3.9g ?

2006-11-19 Thread stephane ducasse
://www.iam.unibe.ch/~schaerli/smalltalk/traits/ traitsPrototype.htm) In 3.9 final this message is not recognized anymore. Best regards, Warakorn stephane ducasse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Traits are in 3.9 final. Stef On 18 nov. 06, at 01:25, Warakorn Paphrawat wrote: Hi ! I would like to work

Re: [Newbies] fromClass: including Traits in Squeak 3.9g ?

2006-11-19 Thread stephane ducasse
TTrait named: #TPoint fromClass: Point includeSuperUnit: nil uses: {} category: 'Traits-Temp' The authors say When generating a trait from an existing class, the system automatically replaces instance variable accesses through accessor methods. Moreover they say the class serves as a

Re: [Newbies] including Traits in Squeak 3.9g ?

2006-11-18 Thread stephane ducasse
Traits are in 3.9 final. Stef On 18 nov. 06, at 01:25, Warakorn Paphrawat wrote: Hi ! I would like to work with Traits in Squeak 3.9g, too. The current VM and Image run very stabble. The Traits researcher form Bern provide an image 3.9a where Traits are included. But this image is

Re: [Newbies] Question on where the new method is define

2006-11-14 Thread stephane ducasse
On 15 nov. 06, at 01:37, Mitt Cooper wrote: I'm very new to smalltalk and squeak. I'm having trouble understanding where/how is the new method is defined. I was messing around with morphs; I tried CurveMorph new. CurveMorph new openInWorld Nothing happened so I started walking back

Re: [Newbies] Disappointed

2006-11-07 Thread stephane ducasse
On 8 nov. 06, at 07:10, Andrew Burton wrote: Jeff wrote: I'm pretty disappointed with this list at the moment. For what it's worth: I wish I could help you. At the moment, I'm pretty puzzled/stumped by Squeak myself. I started getting into this in an attempt to wrap my head around

Re: [Newbies] Disappointed

2006-11-07 Thread stephane ducasse
Hi jeff Not everybody read this mailing-list. So post also in squeak-dev your question. And people are also busy. BTW: you should have repeated your question Stef PS: I read nearly 120 mails per day and I have to reply to 25% at least. On 8 nov. 06, at 06:28, Jeff wrote: I'm pretty

Re: [Newbies] The Path From eToys To Squeak To SmallTalk - Or The Other Way

2006-11-05 Thread stephane ducasse
Thanks I hope to restart to work on the next one... http://smallwiki.unibe.ch/botsinc/ On 6 nov. 06, at 00:13, Gene Venable wrote: I'm enjoying Squeak: Learn Programming with Robots, by Stephane Ducasse. It certainly seems to be a decent place to start. - Original Message From

Re: [Newbies] please help

2006-10-14 Thread stephane ducasse
so there are french teacher teaching langages that they do not understand... really strange. Can you tell us more? where are you? There are lot of books on web about smalltalk that you can read and there is even a french book on squeak and free columns so you can get a lot of information.

Re: [Newbies] Question about inheritance

2006-10-13 Thread stephane ducasse
Hi dennis two points: - aClass new returns an instance of that class - super represents the receiver of the message but the lookup of the method in the superclass of the class that contains the super call. Once the method is found it is applied to the original receiver. So now Monster

[Newbies] Using MessageTally primer by andreas

2006-10-03 Thread stephane ducasse
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Re: [Newbies] Squeak for kids - eToys, Scratch, Alice ?

2006-10-02 Thread stephane ducasse
http://smallwiki.unibe.ch/botsinc but more for 9 or 10 stef On 2 oct. 06, at 16:15, itsme213 wrote: What are the options to get kids (7-10) using Squeak? I have see eToys, Scratch, Alice. Are there others? Any recommendations on which to choose? I want something that they can start with

Re: [Newbies] SqueakSource vs SqueakMap

2006-10-02 Thread stephane ducasse
SqueakSource = Sourceforge Squeakmap = catalog to deploy app So use SqueakSource and MC to develop with multiple people and you can deploy if you want using SqueakMap Stef On 2 oct. 06, at 20:51, Simon Guest wrote: Hi, Please could someone characterise the different intended use of

Re: [Newbies] RE: Why Squeak is so sloooow?

2006-09-21 Thread stephane ducasse
Hi david this is really strange because 3.9 is much snappier than 3.8 on our machines. This is strange. Do you use a special settings (such as some strange smallland setup?) Stef On 21 sept. 06, at 17:55, David Shaffer wrote: Brad Fuller wrote: Maybe you should do some proper scientific

Re: [Newbies] re: final image

2006-09-17 Thread stephane ducasse
If you need material to teach smalltalk just ask! You can already have all my lecture in full access but if you need the source just ask Stef On 17 sept. 06, at 18:23, Chuck Smith wrote: Thanks Stephane will do. I can really teach with the help this list provides. Thanks All Chuck

Re: [Newbies] Problems with do:

2006-09-17 Thread stephane ducasse
this is free mathieu. This is a pattern. Use it :) stef On 17 sept. 06, at 19:51, Mathieu wrote: Ralph Johnson a écrit : You could do something like [aFileStream atEnd] whileFalse: [line := aFileStream nextLine. Transcipt show: line: cr.] Alternatively, you could convert your stream of

Re: [Newbies] Problems with do:

2006-09-17 Thread stephane ducasse
this is what I thought but I did not dare changing the code :) ___ Beginners mailing list Beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners

Re: [Newbies] problems with SqueakMap account

2006-09-14 Thread stephane ducasse
Hi dave I'm sure that goran will reply and help you. Now I suggest you to use monticello and squeaksoruce to manage your code have a look at my video to get a step by step video of the process http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~ducasse/Videos/ Stef On 14 sept. 06, at 01:51, Dave Raymer wrote: