On September 1st as a warm-up to the annual Perl conference in Granada,
Spain I'll be delivering a crash course on Perl Essentials which will
prepare beginners for the talks at the rest of the conference, as well as
giving them a 6 month enrolment at Geekuni.
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Perl array question
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You, of course, responsible not to write things like
for (@array) {
say original loop variable $_;
foo($_);
say reversed loop variable $_;
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$_[0] = reverse $_[0];
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but i think, it's important for beginners to understand such things like
scopes and modificatons value
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say EARFCN=$_,PCID= . join (, @{$result{$_}}) . ; for sort keys
%result;
Outcome is exatly what you want
EARFCN=1900,PCID=0124;
EARFCN=1902,PCID=5678;
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It's really hard to interpret what you mean here, because ... you're
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Someone wrote:
Can you please make the subject line read like a Perl topic rather than a
personal message in future?
http://lists.perl.org/list/beginners.html states:
A list for beginning Perl programmers to ask questions in a
friendly atmosphere.
People posting on beginners
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Someone wrote:
Can you please make the subject line read like a Perl topic rather than a
personal message in future?
Cirrect!
People posting on beginners@perl.org can be beginners with mailing lists
too
programmers can, will, and are
entitled to, write their Perl programs differently; and be tolerant of
those differences.
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That's nice and dandy, but please don't publish the products of your
one-liners turned into scripts here without cleaning them up first, because
there are beginners on this mailing list who need to learn good practices from
the code and posts here, and code
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suppose it can be done with
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wrote:
So, I've been working on an example web based app that demonstrates
pretty much how I've been doing things lately, it's a simple note
pad app for beginners to play with. I put the app and code on my
Linux web server here:
http://www.raspberryperl.com
Love it.
Just fixx
On 08/13/2012 12:45 AM, Owen wrote:
On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 13:41:51 -0500
Bill Stephenson bi...@ezinvoice.com wrote:
So, I've been working on an example web based app that demonstrates
pretty much how I've been doing things lately, it's a simple note pad
app for beginners to play with. I put
how I've been doing things lately, it's a simple note
pad app for beginners to play with. I put the app and code on my
Linux web server here:
http://www.raspberryperl.com
Love it.
Just fixx the XSS bugs pl0x ;)
Can you point to one or more XSS bugs that you have encountered
based app that demonstrates
pretty much how I've been doing things lately, it's a simple note
pad app for beginners to play with. I put the app and code on my
Linux web server here:
http://www.raspberryperl.com
Love it.
Just fixx the XSS bugs pl0x ;)
Can you point to one or more XSS
On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 13:41:51 -0500
Bill Stephenson bi...@ezinvoice.com wrote:
So, I've been working on an example web based app that demonstrates
pretty much how I've been doing things lately, it's a simple note pad
app for beginners to play with. I put the app and code on my Linux
web
things lately, it's a simple note pad app for beginners to
play with. I put the app and code on my Linux web server here:
http://www.raspberryperl.com
My goal is to give beginners some code that's configured to run on the
raspberry pi and simple enough to understand that they can start twiddling
Another nice beginners site and a great weekly perl digest list to
subscribe to:
What's new on the Perl Beginners' Site http://bit.ly/SyaFxg
Shlomi Fish maintains the http://Perl-Begin.org site, an alternative to the
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you should also add perl-beginners zingers for the threads where
people go ape shit and make genehack want to do evil :)
seriously, some of them are somewhat humorous in hind sight. it would
be easy to find them for the list (threads 20 messages) too.
On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 1:04 PM, Shlomi Fish
appliance, but at US$47 in small
quantities, it only had one each Ethernet and serial ports.
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Apache, MySQL, and the GD (libgd) running on the RPi
and hooking it to the internet.
Since Perl is already installed on the linux OS the RPi is a great beginners
platform to learn on. From what I've gathered over there, CPAN works, there are
some issues, but some successes too.
That's some
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Sorry, but this is a beginners list. Questions about learning Perl or the
modules in perlmodlib are consider beginners questions. Questions about
other modules are not.
No offense intended, but I disagree. moderator hat back on
None of the questions in this thread have been off-topic for
perl
On 12-05-03 09:55 AM, John SJ Anderson wrote:
One situation I really want to avoid with perl-beginners is having the
old hands here send people to other lists, only to have the people
on those other lists say we don't have time to hold your hand, maybe
you should ask on perl-beginners instead
On May 3, 2012, at 11:01 AM, Shawn H Corey wrote:
On 12-05-03 09:55 AM, John SJ Anderson wrote:
One situation I really want to avoid with perl-beginners is having the
old hands here send people to other lists, only to have the people
on those other lists say we don't have time to hold your
to be mystified. Show me your interfaces, and I won't usually need
your code; it'll be obvious.
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think this is a
fair synopsis of current list behavior, which was a large factor in
this decision.)
Thanks for raising the issue, Octavian.
chrs,
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++ some mail clients (eg. Gmail) make it very hard to bottom post.
Thanks
for not excluding me. :)
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On 11-10-06 11:37 AM, Zachary Zebrowski wrote:
some mail clients (eg. Gmail) make it very hard to bottom post. Thanks
for not excluding me. :)
I don't mind top posters but I wished more people would trim the quotes.
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On 11-10-06 11:37 AM, Zachary Zebrowski wrote:
some mail clients (eg. Gmail) make it very hard to bottom post. Thanks
for not excluding me. :)
I don't mind top posters but I wished more people would trim the
Okay, meta-topics are always on topic, but this one is pretty run into
the ground and doesn't have anything to do with Perl -- let's let this
thread die out, and get back to the beginner questions...
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John SJ Anderson has accepted the role of list moderator. He'll be
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Yes. ActivePerl-5.14.1.1401-MSWin32-x86 works well on Window 7.
Yes it works fine with Windows 7. I myself have been using it for a long
time now. :)
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Yes. ActivePerl-5.14.1.1401-MSWin32-x86 works well on Window 7.
Hi all,
Even though in most cases I use Perl in production under Linux, I use to
develop the programs under Windows, and until now I used Perl only under
Windows XP.
Do you know if Perl works fine under Windows 7 also?
Thanks.
Octavian
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Do you know if Perl works fine under Windows 7 also?
Yes, no problems with perl on Windows 7.
Cheers,
Rob
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Can you please recommend some good books for novice beginners? Thanks
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Can you please recommend some good books for novice beginners? Thanks
http://learn.perl.org/books.html is a good start. The rest of the
http://learn.perl.org/ website is worth a look too, which is why it's
linked in the footers
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Can you please recommend some good books for novice beginners? Thanks
NAKO
You can find a definitive list (and many other resources) on the Perl
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object orientation
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helps me to pay my rent).
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Hi Sudheer!
On Friday 12 Mar 2010 09:18:39 Sudheer K wrote:
Hi ALL
I am planning to start programming perl for my project . i am just a
beginner to perl
can i get information related to videos/links and books especially for
beginners which can help me writing scripts .
Please see http
Hi Sudheer,
Some links to help you get started:
http://perl-begin.org/
http://learn.perl.org/
Good luck learning Perl. :-)
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On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 12:48:39 +0530, Sudheer K wrote:
I am planning to start programming perl for my project . i am just a
beginner to perl
can i get information related to videos/links and books especially for
beginners which can help me writing scripts .
Since you mention video, I
Hi ALL
I am planning to start programming perl for my project . i am just a
beginner to perl
can i get information related to videos/links and books especially for
beginners which can help me writing scripts .
Thanks
project . i am just a
beginner to perl
can i get information related to videos/links and books especially for
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On 12/03/10 12:48 +0530, Sudheer K wrote:
I am planning to start programming perl for my project . i am just a
beginner to perl
can i get information related to videos/links and books especially for
beginners which can help me writing scripts .
http://www.perl.org/learn.html
http
Hi,
there are a bunch of errors that beginners make a lot and that perl
does not catch or that the given error message is too generic.
use warning;
==
In my perl training classes the first thing I teach is to use strict;
and use warnings;
For some reason - maybe because my students
;
to the beginner mode programs.
And to find the other possibly problematic code constructs I think
you'd better use Perl::Critic with whatever settings you think are
best for beginners than attempting to develop your own. I do believe
most of the confusing things are already covered.
Jenda
modules need attention to make life even
easier for Perl users on Win32.
Could you please tell us what does PDK give you?
regards
Gabor
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Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 8:59 PM
Subject: Re: Perl projects for beginners
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to take people with 0 perl knowledge
(e.g. Dreamwidth) while others expect the person to
understand OOP.
It can be as simple as a page on the TPF Perl 5 wiki.
What do you think?
Gabor
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Thank you, all of you for your input!
I think you made very interesting and valuable points,
many of which I have not thought earlier.
Actually I was hoping to get the responses of beginners to understand
their POV but the input of the others was also interesting.
My objectives are two-fold.
1
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As in many of the project the core developers
are usually more Linux/OSX people and the beginners will tend to be more
Windows people, one will have to go the extra miles and explain
experiments are in order. Has anyone tried to imagine a World of
PerlCraft game.
Bob McConnell
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Hi,
in a blog post http://szabgab.com/blog/2009/09/1251862435.html
I recently asked how to make a project beginner friendly.
The best answer I got was to ask the beginners. Clever :-)
So let me ask it on this list.
As I think think the best way to learn Perl is tor practice a lot
and the best
2009/9/7 Gabor Szabo szab...@gmail.com:
Hi,
in a blog post http://szabgab.com/blog/2009/09/1251862435.html
I recently asked how to make a project beginner friendly.
The best answer I got was to ask the beginners. Clever :-)
So let me ask it on this list.
As I think think the best way
Hi Gabor.
So far, in my quest to learn perl, it's been pretty easy to learn how
to program basic applications, that perform simple functions using
modules from CPAN.
I think beginners would greatly benefit from learning how to write
their OWN perl module to aid in performing a task. This would
start with those if you want newbies to start with
something... Of course, a more Perl-oriented book would be ideal.
Ray
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Accidentally sent to Gabor, rather to the list:
2009/9/7 Gabor Szabo szab...@gmail.com:
Hi,
Many projects assume a lot of background already that beginners
might not yet have. What things would beginners need in order to
get involved in a project?
I think it all boils down to clear, simple
agree with this. Contributing to a project is well above a
beginners level, unless you're already an accomplished programmer and
looking to pick up Perl as a new skill (in which case your life as a
'Perl beginner' is probably going to be reasonably short). Working on
someone else's code is *difficult
On Mon, 2009-09-07 at 12:13 +0300, Erez Schatz wrote:
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2009/9/7 Gabor Szabo szab...@gmail.com:
Hi,
Many projects assume a lot of background already that beginners
might not yet have. What things would beginners need in order to
get
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Subject: Re: Perl projects for beginners
To: fudmer rieley southofmex...@yahoo.com
Date: Monday, September 7, 2009, 7:20 AM
please post this to the list
Gabor
On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 2:12 PM, fudmer
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Subject: Re: Perl projects for beginners
To: Raymond Wan r@aist.go.jp
Date: Monday, September 7, 2009, 6:57 AM
The need is for a problem book with real explained answers
[producing
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To: beginners@perl.org
Date: Monday, September 7, 2009, 7:42 AM
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From: fudmer
perl mentor to lead this for the
sometimes before beginners can get it right especially for non
computer scientist.
Goke
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Gabor Szabo wrote:
in a blog post http://szabgab.com/blog/2009/09/1251862435.html
I recently asked how to make a project beginner friendly.
The best answer I got was to ask the beginners. Clever :-)
So let me ask it on this list.
As I think think the best way to learn Perl is tor practice
believe that would be
a success.
I've also heard of repositories as a deterrent from cheating. If you
make a rule to commit every day, it leaves a record of how your project
[made by just you] grew. I'm not so sure how effective this is...
Ray
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for authors in standardizing, etc. Also, I think an
author would put more care into something that is going in print [on
paper or on-line] than something that is going into a blog.
As the saying goes, You get what you pay for
Ray
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but it is giving 5.12345100
May I know why it behabe So
Perl says for commercial data it does not work for some values
Let me know if you have any other function that do round of with great
accuracy
Thanks in advance
Ajay
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Ajay Kumar aku...@securities.com asked:
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Hi All
I have great issues
1) perl -e '$a=0.123451005;$a=sprintf(%.8f,$a);print=$a\n;'
Output=0.12345101
2) perl -e '$a=5.123451005
with this regard would be very much
appriciated.
Awaiting for your quick response.
Thanks,
Srinivasa Prasad
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Raymond == Raymond Wan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Raymond In academia, it is common to blame the student, but up to a point, it
Raymond might be worth asking if the teacher can teaching things
Raymond differently...especially if enough students complain.
As someone who has built a solid
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Randal L. Schwartz)
In my view, there are no stupid students. Only misstated pre-reqs, misaligned
goals, or *bad* instructors. No excuse for any of those.
Not being too stupid might be considered a pre-req. Though usualy
it's not stated this way, but rather as must
Hi Randal,
Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
Raymond == Raymond Wan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Raymond In academia, it is common to blame the student, but up to a point, it
Raymond might be worth asking if the teacher can teaching things
Raymond differently...especially if enough
From: Andrew Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi
From my experience learning Perl, the supplied on-line documentation
accessed through the perldoc command provides everything you need.
This depends on your background. If you can program and just need to
learn Perl, it's perfectly
From: Jenda Krynicky
From: Andrew Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi
From my experience learning Perl, the supplied on-line
documentation
accessed through the perldoc command provides everything you need.
This depends on your background. If you can program and just need to
not it is actually the reader that is too
dense, not the documentation.
That may be true, Bob, but not all documentation are the same and the
perldocs seem more like a reference manual than a tutorial for
beginners, at least to me. And sometimes, it helps having figures
(i.e., for explaining
Hi
From my experience learning Perl, the supplied on-line documentation
accessed through the perldoc command provides everything you need.
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On 9月19日, 下午12时19分, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeff Pang) wrote:
2008/9/19 Phillip Pi [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Thank you, but I don't see
The other day[1] Paul Johnson mentioned that the FAQ for the beginners@perl.org
mailing list is located at http://learn.perl.org/faq/beginners.html
and I thought it might be nice to add this link to http://lists.perl.org/showlist.cgi?name=beginners
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On 9月19日, 下午12时19分, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeff Pang) wrote:
2008/9/19 Phillip Pi [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Thank you, but I don't see anything about hardcopy books.
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Well, I think you should buy the book learning Perl which is
suitable for both unix users and windows users, since Perl is a
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Well, I think you should buy the book learning Perl which is
suitable for both unix users and windows users, since Perl is a
Cross-Platform language.
Yes, the book Learning Perl had 5th in 2008.
and you can download it from the here:
www.freebookspot.net
also it had many frees
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