Re: ongoing discussion

2002-11-13 Thread Sharon Montville
The way I interpreted Pat's comment about breeders who "force" an owner to finish the CH on a "show quality" pup was like this... not sure if this was what she meant or not: Oftentimes, the breeder has a pup or two left s/he thinks are "nice" and wants to see these pups in a show home. In the not

Re: ongoing discussion

2002-11-13 Thread Sharon Montville
Sandy wrote: "Breeders don't PLAN on scamming their buyers" Maybe not the breeders you've been hanging around with for the past 40 years... But sadly, YES, some breeders DO PLAN ON SCAMMING their buyers. As someone who is acutely aware of the ways that commercial breeders are marketing their

Re: Ongoing Discussion of ED, HD and Breeders

2002-11-13 Thread Eileen Morgan
- Original Message - From: "Valerie Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > It is hard for me to relate to those who are looking for "show quality" > puppies and want their money back or want to return the dog if they don't > turn out to be perfect specimens. I CAN see if they paid a premium that >

Re: Ongoing discussion

2002-11-13 Thread Jeff & Mary Chapdelaine - SnoBear berners
"Book knowledge, information knowledge can't cover the emotions that it all entails. It takes BOTH learned knowledge and experience, IMHO." Excellent post Sandy. Bernerly, Mary Jeff & Mary Chapdelaine SnoBear Berners [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snobear.freeyellow.com

RE: Ongoing discussion

2002-11-12 Thread Pat Long & Paul Dangel
Sandy, Absolutely, I agree with you! Without being a breeder, I will never understand what I would do in similar circumstances. I know there are some very hard decisions, and without being in the position of having to make them, I'm only a Monday morning quarterback. As a pet owner, I'm grateful

Re: Ongoing Discussion--Pat's qualifications

2002-11-11 Thread Brnrmom
I dont believe a doctor needs to have cancer to be an excellent oncologist. Pat Long is one of the the most educated and knowledgable dog people any breed is lucky enough to have, whether or not she ever bred a litter. She is incredibly dedicated to this breed and has amazing common sense. Am

Re: Ongoing discussion on HD and Elbows

2002-11-11 Thread Ray & Pat Burgett
I believe the topic on feeding, exercise and HD and elbows was caused from a reply I made a to a post about HD a number of digest's back,. This is from my earlier post. <<>>> *** I never once said food, exercise or training caused HD, and I never said it was the puppy owners fault if their dog c