Re: [bess] Comments about draft-gmsm-bess-evpn-bfd-01

2018-11-05 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
Hi Donald, Thank you for this. For the second question, I get from your answer that you will keep both encapsulations for the time being? Thanks. Jorge -Original Message- From: Donald Eastlake Date: Monday, November 5, 2018 at 8:48 PM To: "Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)"

Re: [bess] About draft-brissette-bess-evpn-l2gw-proto-03

2018-11-05 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
Hi Patrice, Thank you. Please see more in-line with [JORGE]. Thx Jorge -Original Message- From: "Patrice Brissette (pbrisset)" Date: Tuesday, November 6, 2018 at 7:49 AM To: "Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)" , "bess@ietf.org" ,

Re: [bess] About draft-brissette-bess-evpn-l2gw-proto-03

2018-11-05 Thread Patrice Brissette (pbrisset)
Hi Jorge, Please see my comments below ... Regards, Patrice Brissette, Principal Engineer Cisco Systems Help us track your SP SR/EVPN Customer Opportunity/Status by filling these forms: Segment Routing / EVPN

Re: [bess] About draft-brissette-bess-evpn-l2gw-proto-03

2018-11-05 Thread John E Drake
Hi, I agree w/ Jorge's proposal. Yours Irrespectively, John > -Original Message- > From: BESS On Behalf Of Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - > US/Mountain View) > Sent: Monday, November 5, 2018 4:45 AM > To: bess@ietf.org; draft-brissette-bess-evpn-l2gw-proto.auth...@ietf.org > Subject: [bess]

Re: [bess] Comparing using the SD-WAN Overlay SAFI specified by draft-dunbar-idr-bgp-sdwan-overlay-ext with the EVPN approach described by draft-sajassi-bess-secure-evpn-00

2018-11-05 Thread Robert Raszuk
Hi Linda, There are some key differences: Skype and CDN overlay companies don’t have > any intension to interoperate, but networking needs interoperability. > There is no issue about interoperability. Observe that that each endpoint can today seamlessly be a member of N different SD-WAN

[bess] what are the problems to anticipate with new SD-WAN SAFI specified by draft-dunbar-idr-bgp-sdwan-overlay-ext ?

2018-11-05 Thread Linda Dunbar
There are already >60 BGP SAFI being specified: https://www.iana.org/assignments/safi-namespace/safi-namespace.xhtml Many people told me that New SAFI would requires changes to RR. But to use RR to relay SD-WAN end point properties to the authorized peers, RR has to be enhanced. For normal

Re: [bess] Comments about draft-gmsm-bess-evpn-bfd-01

2018-11-05 Thread Donald Eastlake
Hi Jorge, On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 4:44 AM Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View) wrote: > > Dear authors, > > I couldn’t make it to the BESS meeting, so my apologies if some of these > things have been discussed. > > Some comments/questions: Thanks for sending comments. > - In the last

[bess] About draft-brissette-bess-evpn-l2gw-proto-03

2018-11-05 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
Dear authors, Some comments about this draft: 1- the draft uses some 'non-standard' terminology. Could you use RFC7432 terminology please? An example of 'non-standard' term is EVLAG. 2- the draft proposes a solution for something that works today without the need of a multi-homed Ethernet

[bess] About draft-brissette-bess-evpn-mh-pa-02

2018-11-05 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
Hi all, I think I already made similar comments when the first revision of the draft in the subject was presented, but since I see no changes in the last revision, please let me throw the comments to the list for discussion: 1) section 3 "Peering PEs MAY exchange only Ethernet-Segment route

[bess] Comments about draft-gmsm-bess-evpn-bfd-01

2018-11-05 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
Dear authors, I couldn’t make it to the BESS meeting, so my apologies if some of these things have been discussed. Some comments/questions: - In the last IETF, I suggested the use of BGP and the BGP-BFD attribute to exchange discriminators, as in section 3.1.6 of

Re: [bess] [Idr] Comparing using the SD-WAN Overlay SAFI specified by draft-dunbar-idr-bgp-sdwan-overlay-ext with the EVPN approach described by draft-sajassi-bess-secure-evpn-00

2018-11-05 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
Ali, About that granularity, I have a couple of questions about the table in page 17, and the corresponding sections. a) per PE granularity, EVPN case: wouldn't make sense to use an EVPN route? EVPN is the only AFI/SAFI deployed in many networks, so I would really use an EVPN route for this.

[bess] operational problems for draft-brissette-bess-evpn-l2gw-proto

2018-11-05 Thread Susan Hares
Greetings: In grow WG today, Randy Bush shared research that that communities may be erroneous sent up to 4 AS beyond the original sending. How does the technology in this draft prevent this from occurring? Is your only guarantee policy at the edge? Sue Hares

Re: [bess] draft-ietf-bess-security-00.txt

2018-11-05 Thread Susan Hares
+1 on this question. I hope Ali will discuss. Sue From: Henderickx, Wim (Nokia - BE/Antwerp) [mailto:wim.henderi...@nokia.com] Sent: Monday, November 5, 2018 3:10 AM To: Susan Hares; bess@ietf.org Subject: Re: [bess] draft-ietf-bess-security-00.txt Also how does the solution

Re: [bess] draft-ietf-bess-security-00.txt

2018-11-05 Thread Henderickx, Wim (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)
Also how does the solution behave if the edge device is no longer connected to the RR and does not get keys in time to refresh. Common issue in SD-WAN context which is in scope from what I understood on the discussion with Linda. From: BESS on behalf of Susan Hares Date: Monday, 5 November

[bess] draft-ietf-bess-security-00.txt

2018-11-05 Thread Susan Hares
Ali: It would be useful to indicate how you keep the IPSEC information from going outside the AS. For reference, this is Keyur Patel's question. Cheerily, Susan Hares ___ BESS mailing list BESS@ietf.org