Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Artist counting on album info screen

2008-01-17 Thread Phil Meyer
All good and nice. Could you please add this to Jim's bug report? In here it will be lost and forgotton withing a few days... Sure, although I was hoping to get some feedback, that my summary and suggestions were in fact correct! Phil ___ beta

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Artist counting on album info screen

2008-01-17 Thread Phil Meyer
Really? In cases like this I do it the other way around. I would never want Page and Plant to appear in the Browse Artists list, only Robert Plant and Jimmy Page. And I would want this album to appear under *both*. To achieve this, I tag as follows: I think you've reminded me of the

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Artist counting on album info screen

2008-01-16 Thread Greg Klanderman
Phil Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I use TXXX ALBUMARTIST a lot, and SqueezeCenter correctly uses this to group songs by that artist instead of creating the album as a compilation (various artists) album. Great, I'll use that instead of TPE2 and the useBandAsAlbumArtist option in SC (which

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Artist counting on album info screen

2008-01-14 Thread Phil Meyer
I think ALBUMARTIST isn't even a standard tag, but an iTunes thing. Not an iTunes thing - they use BAND I believe. iTunes is particularly poor in that if you do have an album artist or band tag, it doesn't display it as the artist in the artist list. ALBUMARTIST is imho mapped to BAND, as does

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Artist counting on album info screen

2008-01-14 Thread Michael Herger
ALBUMARTIST is imho mapped to BAND, as does eg. mp3tag as well. mp3tag is my main tag editor. The author did change a recent developer build (v2.39h) to make TPE2 map to ALBUMARTIST. However, this change was reverted a couple of days later (v2.39i). ALBUMARTIST is a TXXX frame. They are

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Artist counting on album info screen

2008-01-14 Thread JJZolx
One thing I was thinking might solve a number of problems would be to make sure every album has an ALBUMARTIST (forgetting for a moment the issue of whether or not (and how) to map ID3v2's TPE2/Band tag to the ALBUMARTIST role). When an explicit ALBUMARTIST isn't given in the tags, then the

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Artist counting on album info screen

2008-01-14 Thread Phil Meyer
One thing I was thinking might solve a number of problems would be to make sure every album has an ALBUMARTIST I think what you are saying is that every album (or song on an album) would have an albumartist role in the contributors table. I'm not sure that helps, as SC can still display

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Artist counting on album info screen

2008-01-14 Thread Phil Meyer
TXXX means no standard tag. It's whatever you want to call it. Create a MYVERYOWNTAG and it will be stored in TXXX. Yes, I know that, but SqueezeCenter is written to look for a TXXX (ALBUMARTIST) tag. It's an arbitrary tag, but one that SC specifically looks for. I use TXXX ALBUMARTIST a

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Artist counting on album info screen

2008-01-14 Thread JJZolx
Phil Meyer;258622 Wrote: One thing I was thinking might solve a number of problems would be to make sure every album has an ALBUMARTIST I think what you are saying is that every album (or song on an album) would have an albumartist role in the contributors table. I'm not sure that helps,

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Artist counting on album info screen

2008-01-14 Thread JJZolx
Phil Meyer;258619 Wrote: At the end of the day, the counts are not a big thing; it's just I have a habit of spotting little things ;) You're right, the counts aren't terribly important. Which is probably why the discrepancies have pretty much been ignored. You can count the 'artists' for an

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Artist counting on album info screen

2008-01-14 Thread Phil Meyer
For albums. You never want to see all the artists listed in the by-line for an album. You don't want to see 'The Time-Life Treasury of Christmas' by 30 different artists. Nor do you want to see the Santana album 'Supernatural' by 9 different artists. For a few track artists, it's quite nice,

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Artist counting on album info screen

2008-01-13 Thread Michael Herger
I'm a little less uncertain about BAND, which is widely used like album artist, but maybe could be considered as a real contributor to a song, rather than presentation/grouping. I think ALBUMARTIST isn't even a standard tag, but an iTunes thing. More standard is BAND or TPE2. ALBUMARTIST is

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Artist counting on album info screen

2008-01-12 Thread Phil Meyer
ARTIST=Paul Simon ARTIST=Art Garfunkel ALBUMARTIST=Simon Garfunkel Yes, it has been added this week. And computers are stupid: how should they know that the above in fact are only two? Yes, computers are stupid, but they are very good at math, given the right instruction ;) SC already

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Artist counting on album info screen

2008-01-12 Thread Michael Herger
Joking aside, I don't understand your comment. Artist and albumartist are different contributor types. And as they aren't identical neither they're three different in this case. It's probably related to the VA searching issue I'm currently trying to understand: if I have a compilation with

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Artist counting on album info screen

2008-01-12 Thread Phil Meyer
What about the composer? Would you consider him a contributor or not? Maybe only the wording is wrong and we're not talking about Artists here, but Contributors. Or the count is wrong as it does not only count the Artist, but the other contributors too. Anyway we change it I'm sure people

[SlimDevices: Beta] Artist counting on album info screen

2008-01-11 Thread Phil Meyer
In the WebUI, if I browse to the album Bridge Over Troubled Water by Simon Garfunkel, it shows this as 1 album with 13 songs by 3 artists. It's a little strange to say 3 artists. It is because I have tagged all the songs with: ARTIST=Paul Simon ARTIST=Art Garfunkel ALBUMARTIST=Simon

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Artist counting on album info screen

2008-01-11 Thread Michael Herger
ARTIST=Paul Simon ARTIST=Art Garfunkel ALBUMARTIST=Simon Garfunkel I'm wondering if this is a change Yes, it has been added this week. And computers are stupid: how should they know that the above in fact are only two? You wouldn't want them to consider Elvis the same artist as Elvis