On 19/07/09 18:36, erland wrote:
> There is a reason why people participating in these forums tends to
> stay here for years, I'm pretty sure this wouldn't be the case if the
> development was handled in a closed environment.
Absolutely.
I chose Slim Devices over various other options specificall
sxr71;441925 Wrote:
> I went back to 7.33 and its the same story not really up to the mark.
> Oddly, 7.4 fixes some issues with 7.33 like Duet needing an unplug and
> replug to see the server. 7.4 using MySQL is the best release by far.
Have you tried the nightly 7.3.4?
This fix may be in there
iPhone;441864 Wrote:
> This is for everybody complaining, what is going on here?! Beta is Beta
> is Beta. Any release other then Production is by default Beta and all
> bets are off. So 7.4 is very much Beta as its not production and most
> times still works properly. It ISN"T meant to be perfect
Please stop whining!!! If you use beta in a production environment then
you are just plain stupid. STUPID!!.
Beta is by definition always broken. Always. There is always a major
part of the system under reengineering and there fore it is broken. And
this goes particularly for 7.4 because of the
erland;441878 Wrote:
> There is a reason why people participating in these forums tends to stay
> here for years, I'm pretty sure this wouldn't be the case if the
> development was handled in a closed environment.
It would certainally make things a lot less interesting that for sure
:)
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Goodsounds;441870 Wrote:
> I'll defer to you guys, you know much more about this than I ever will.
> It just struck me that their approach produces unwanted noise and
> fireworks among the customer base. Regrettable distractions that one
> wouldn't want new or potential customers to be exposed t
Phil Leigh;441857 Wrote:
> No I disagree in the case of SC. It is a cross-platform product
> attempting to support a bewildering variety of user OS/hardware
> platforms. Most software houses don't attempt to do that. It is
> imperative that SC betas are released into the community ASAP so that
>
Nonreality;441739 Wrote:
> I gave up on 7.4 as it was not beta ready. Very much alpha. don't mind
> testing something that is in the beta stage but man this was just too
> much. Each version you had no idea if it would mess up the whole
> system. I'll wait a bit.
This is for everybody complai
Goodsounds;441851 Wrote:
> Not necessarily. But when there is a predominant practice among
> companies with respect to a particular task(product
> testing/development), isn't it fair to assume that thoughtful people
> agree on that as a better approach?
No I disagree in the case of SC. It is a c
kdf;441742 Wrote:
> Goodsounds wrote:
> > funkstar;441593 Wrote:
> >
> >> So what do you sugest?
> >>
> >> All development to be done behind closed doors and only official
> >> releases are made public?
> >>
> >
> > Isn't that what most companies do?
> >
> >
> >
> and that makes it ri
sxr71;441297 Wrote:
> I am using 7.34 not 7.4. It has been suggested when features are broken
> in the released 7.3 to try 7.34 and it too has its problems. As for 7.4
> I would never use it again until it is release ready and then again
> probably not unless Trackstat works with it.
You seem to
tamanaco;441789 Wrote:
> when "Alpha" code is released it's understood this type of release is
> targeted for developers or skilled end users
The pages where the "beta" release can be downloaded certainly make
this aspect clear.
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Goodsounds;441741 Wrote:
> Isn't that what most companies do?
Nope. At least not when it come to open source projects.
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erland;441747 Wrote:
>
> I suppose Logitech could rename the last one to "alpha" but I've a hard
> time seeing how a name change would make a big improvement.
I don't think people are looking for "improvement" by renaming it. The
"perception" out there is that when software is in "Beta" regular
Goodsounds;441741 Wrote:
>
> > funkstar Wrote:
> >
> > So what do you sugest?
> >
> > All development to be done behind closed doors and only official
> > releases are made public?
> > > >
> Isn't that what most companies do?
>
Yes and the result is that when the product is released in a be
kdf;441742 Wrote:
> Goodsounds wrote:
> > funkstar;441593 Wrote:
> >
> >> So what do you sugest?
> >>
> >> All development to be done behind closed doors and only official
> >> releases are made public?
> >>
> >
> > Isn't that what most companies do?
> >
> >
> >
> and that makes it ri
Goodsounds wrote:
> funkstar;441593 Wrote:
>
>> So what do you sugest?
>>
>> All development to be done behind closed doors and only official
>> releases are made public?
>>
>
> Isn't that what most companies do?
>
>
>
and that makes it right?
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funkstar;441593 Wrote:
> So what do you sugest?
>
> All development to be done behind closed doors and only official
> releases are made public?
Isn't that what most companies do?
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pnielsen;441230 Wrote:
> The past few months, the quality of "beta" releases have gone down to
> "alpha" quality with serious showstopper bugs.
>
> See the attached image. After more than 2 hours of scanning (clean
> install!) the time indicator shows:
>
> 03:233:-10597
>
> What is this?! This
pnielsen;441497 Wrote:
> It is not acceptable.
So what do you sugest?
All development to be done behind closed doors and only official
releases are made public?
pnielsen;441497 Wrote:
> I have a lot of patience, but the super-duper-major problems in 7.4
> remain after more than TWO MONTHS (may
aubuti;441330 Wrote:
> I don't use Sirius, but I would think that like most subscription
> services it keeps your radio channels in a prefs file on *their*
> servers. Are you sure you don't simply need to re-enter your Sirius
> credentials on SC and/or SqueezeNetwork? And if Sirius doesn't keep
>
FWIW: I'm a developer with 20+ years of experience in Windows and OS/2
GUI programming. I know product development well, and I agree with the
other complaints posted here. It is not acceptable.
I have a lot of patience, but the super-duper-major problems in 7.4
remain after more than TWO MONTHS (
FWIW: I'm a developer with 20+ years of experience in Windows and OS/2
GUI programming. I know product development well, and I agree with the
other complaints posted here. It is not acceptable.
I have a lot of patience, but the super-duper-major problems in 7.4
remain after more than TWO MONTHS (
FWIW: I'm a developer with 20+ years of experience in Windows and OS/2
GUI programming. I know product development well, and I agree with the
other complaints posted here.
I have a lot of patience, but the super-duper-major problems in 7.4
remain after more than TWO MONTHS (maybe more). As an ISD
pnielsen;441238 Wrote:
> Anyway, now I've got 7.4 back up and running. I *know* it's an unstable
> version, but why can't I go back to 7.3 without losing all my radio
> channels (including Sirius) ? V 7.3.3 works correctly in other regards,
> except that I lose all the radio channels...
>
> I'm
I'd have to say that the 7.4 beta has been through too many iterations
(changes) and that the moment it was decided that the db engine needed
to be changed to SQLite the releases should have been renamed 7.4.x or
7.5 "Alpha". This was a radical change that affected almost every aspect
of the serve
sxr71;441297 Wrote:
> I am using 7.34 not 7.4. It has been suggested when features are broken
> in the released 7.3 to try 7.34 and it too has its problems. As for 7.4
> I would never use it again until it is release ready and then again
> probably not unless Trackstat works with it.
Trackstat wi
Siduhe;441293 Wrote:
> But that's the whole point of making the development release (7.4 in
> this case) available for testing - new features are introduced, they
> break stuff (often in a major way), this gets identified, bugs are
> fixed, new features are introduced and so on.
>
> I've been be
sxr71;441285 Wrote:
> I really hate to say it but you guys are right. The quality of releases
> is going down. I am using 7.34 which is just a minor upgrade on the
> released 7.3 so I can't understand why it has so many problems.
>
> Then you have 7.4 which performs worse in every area from scan
I really hate to say it but you guys are right. The quality of releases
is going down. I am using 7.34 which is just a minor upgrade on the
released 7.3 so I can't understand why it has so many problems.
Then you have 7.4 which performs worse in every area from scanning to
performance and it brea
pnielsen;441238 Wrote:
> Well, it might not change anything... However, we that have been using
> squeezebox products for 2+ years have enjoyed fairly stable "beta"
> versions until recently...
>
There has been a warning:
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63346
As already mentioned
Well, it might not change anything... However, we that have been using
squeezebox products for 2+ years have enjoyed fairly stable "beta"
versions until recently...
One of my friends got a Duet about 2-3 months ago. He's a completely
new user without any prior experience. I never told him anythin
How would changing the name make it more reliable? We basically have 3
versions at any time - production (7.3.3), patch (7.3.4) and dev (7.4).
If you're looking for any kind of stability I'd recommend prod or patch.
I kind of agree that right now 7.4 is too unstable to be called beta (by
my defini
Oh, and I wanted to downgrade to the latest 7.3 version, and have done
so. Unfortunately all my radio channels (including Sirius that I pay
for) disappear when I do this, so I'm stuck with the incredibly buggy
7.4 :(
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The past few months, the quality of "beta" releases have gone down tp
"alpha" quality.
See the attached image. After more than 2 hours of scanning (clean
install!) the time indicator shows:
03:233:-10597
What is this?! This should not happen even in beta versions...
How difficult is it to imp
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