Re: [Bf-committers] Render Layer Proposal

2012-01-18 Thread François T .
Yes it is true that RenderLayers are a bit of a mix up in Blender where it is actually Layers/Scenes manipulation and passes at the same time, which makes complicated the way to add another pass (except by going through a mat overall). But I was trying to keep things simple and stick to the actual

Re: [Bf-committers] Render Layer Proposal

2012-01-18 Thread Ton Roosendaal
Hi, You actually told me the reason why we have openEXR MultiLayer (exr) is because some third party software do not support Multilayer properly. I wouldn't have said that. At the time there was no other program using openEXR multilayer at all. I asked ILM to propose a standard for it, but

Re: [Bf-committers] Render Layer Proposal

2012-01-18 Thread François T .
yes sure. Except not just for EXR but any other file format would be nice. 2012/1/18 Ton Roosendaal t...@blender.org Hi, You actually told me the reason why we have openEXR MultiLayer (exr) is because some third party software do not support Multilayer properly. I wouldn't have said

Re: [Bf-committers] Render Layer Proposal

2012-01-18 Thread Ton Roosendaal
Hi, If we stick to exr then we can save out Z values, Index masks, speed vectors, and raw HDR values without need of worrying how to convert this. Not to forget all color space issues. -Ton- Ton Roosendaal Blender

Re: [Bf-committers] Render Layer Proposal

2012-01-18 Thread François T .
True. And I think that's the only format supporting 32bpc in Blender. (Or I didn't find how to enable it with Tiff) F. 2012/1/18 Ton Roosendaal t...@blender.org Hi, If we stick to exr then we can save out Z values, Index masks, speed vectors, and raw HDR values without need of worrying how

Re: [Bf-committers] Render Layer Proposal

2012-01-17 Thread Bartek Skorupa
Before I start commenting, let me say that I am with you and also think that the way Render Layers are rendered could get some improvements. I fully agree that it would be very useful to have an option to automatically render every pass of every render layer to separate folder without

Re: [Bf-committers] Render Layer Proposal

2012-01-17 Thread François T .
I have however a few questions: Note that all my points are in case you are NOT using Multi-Layer and NOT using compositor What do you mean saying that Only the first RenderLayer gets rendered? When you render to MultiLayer exr - all passes of all render layers get stored. Let say you

Re: [Bf-committers] Render Layer Proposal

2012-01-17 Thread Ton Roosendaal
Hi Francois, I can't follow your text really. Instead of explaining why you need it, or calling it better or more useful, just write down a neutral and very precise specification of how it looks what you want? It seems to me you like some Openexr file version that's between the MultiLayer and

Re: [Bf-committers] Render Layer Proposal

2012-01-17 Thread gespert...@gmail.com
I know this isn't an answer for all your problems and it doesn't fix the need of a composite node to render animation, but have you tried creating a node group for passes? You can create a generic node group with each pass connected to one file output node mapped to a relative directory (for

Re: [Bf-committers] Render Layer Proposal

2012-01-17 Thread gespert...@gmail.com
Ton: I think he's talking about how tedious is to output individual passes as image sequences using file-output nodes. For instance, storing 5 passes to tga sequences requires you to add 5 file-output nodes, set them up with the right path, and it still requires the presence of a composite node

Re: [Bf-committers] Render Layer Proposal

2012-01-17 Thread Alex Glawion
Francois, I agree with you 100%. I recently made a short film with roughly 80 shots, 5-10 renderlayers per shot, 3-5 passes per renderlayer. All these image/pass/renderlayer sequences had to be saved via FileOutput node. Imagine setting up (changing filepaths) in over 1000 Fileoutput Nodes ;-)

Re: [Bf-committers] Render Layer Proposal

2012-01-17 Thread François T .
Ton : My bad for calling it better or whatever, I'm sorry that's all you understood and remember from my mail, in which I tried to explain each point of the current process and how I wish it to be ! But maybe the best way to understand it is if you try to render each pass into different image

Re: [Bf-committers] Render Layer Proposal

2012-01-17 Thread François T .
I know this isn't an answer for all your problems and it doesn't fix the need of a composite node to render animation, but have you tried creating a node group for passes? You can create a generic node group with each pass connected to one file output node mapped to a relative directory (for

Re: [Bf-committers] Render Layer Proposal

2012-01-17 Thread François T .
2012/1/17 Alex Glawion alexglaw...@gmx.de Francois, I agree with you 100%. I recently made a short film with roughly 80 shots, 5-10 renderlayers per shot, 3-5 passes per renderlayer. All these image/pass/renderlayer sequences had to be saved via FileOutput node. Imagine setting up (changing

Re: [Bf-committers] Render Layer Proposal

2012-01-17 Thread Matt Ebb
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 5:24 AM, Ton Roosendaal t...@blender.org wrote: Instead of explaining why you need it, or calling it better or more useful, just write down a neutral and very precise specification of how it looks what you want? It seems to me you like some Openexr file version that's

[Bf-committers] Render Layer Proposal

2012-01-16 Thread François T .
Hi everyone, Yet another proposal, so I know nobody have times for proposal and stuff but since I passed the entire day linking renderlayers passes to fileOut one by one, my head hurts ! So I have to give it a shot ! Once again, I guess I'm the only one using Blender with other apps because I

Re: [Bf-committers] Render Layer Proposal

2012-01-16 Thread Nate Wiebe
You should be able to do this with the File Output node if I'm not mistaken. -Nate ___ Bf-committers mailing list Bf-committers@blender.org http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-committers

Re: [Bf-committers] Render Layer Proposal

2012-01-16 Thread François T .
have you read the entire mail ? ^^ 2012/1/16 Nate Wiebe natewieb...@gmail.com You should be able to do this with the File Output node if I'm not mistaken. -Nate ___ Bf-committers mailing list Bf-committers@blender.org