Re: Delegation NS-records when zones share an authority server

2023-04-12 Thread Mark Andrews
> On 13 Apr 2023, at 06:44, Mark Andrews wrote: > > > >> On 13 Apr 2023, at 03:19, Fred Morris wrote: >> >> TLDR: NS records occur above and below zone cuts. >> >> On Wed, 12 Apr 2023, John Thurston wrote: >>> >>> We have autho

Re: Delegation NS-records when zones share an authority server

2023-04-12 Thread Nick Tait via bind-users
On 13/04/2023 5:58 am, Havard Eidnes via bind-users wrote: I suspect you don't need the NS records in challenge.state.ak.us and if you remove them then the records in challenge.state.ak.us are simply part of the state.ak.us zone since they're served off of the same server. Unfortunately "not qui

Re: Delegation NS-records when zones share an authority server

2023-04-12 Thread Mark Andrews
> On 13 Apr 2023, at 03:19, Fred Morris wrote: > > TLDR: NS records occur above and below zone cuts. > > On Wed, 12 Apr 2023, John Thurston wrote: >> >> We have authority over state.ak.us, which we publish as a public zone. We >> also publish chall

Re: Delegation NS-records when zones share an authority server

2023-04-12 Thread Havard Eidnes via bind-users
> I suspect you don't need the NS records in challenge.state.ak.us and > if you remove them then the records in challenge.state.ak.us are > simply part of the state.ak.us zone since they're served off of the > same server. Unfortunately "not quite". While a publishing name server will respond wit

Re: Delegation NS-records when zones share an authority server

2023-04-12 Thread tale via bind-users
it'll matter when you decide to add DNSSEC to the zone, and it's also good hygiene in the absence of DNSSEC so that any future maintainer can be reminded that there is a subdomain at that name when looking at the parent. -- Visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe fro

Re: Delegation NS-records when zones share an authority server

2023-04-12 Thread Fred Morris
TLDR: NS records occur above and below zone cuts. On Wed, 12 Apr 2023, John Thurston wrote: We have authority over state.ak.us, which we publish as a public zone. We also publish challenge.state.ak.us as a public zone. The public NS records for state.ak.us are: ns4.state.ak.us and ns3

Delegation NS-records when zones share an authority server

2023-04-12 Thread John Thurston
I uncovered an oddity in my zone definitions, which I'm trying to wrap my head around. We have authority over state.ak.us, which we publish as a public zone. We also publish challenge.state.ak.us as a public zone. The public NS records for state.ak.us are: ns4.state.ak.us and

Re: Authority and forwarding, but not recursion/iteration

2021-03-16 Thread Fred Morris
Hammers and nails... On Tue, 16 Mar 2021, Marki wrote: On 3/13/2021 12:11 AM, Tony Finch wrote: Marki wrote: But if you need granular filtering, that could become a lot of views... Yes, I think RPZ is really designed to be a ban hammer [...] Standard DNS server software (not only Bind)

Re: Authority and forwarding, but not recursion/iteration

2021-03-16 Thread Marki
On 3/13/2021 12:11 AM, Tony Finch wrote: Marki wrote: But if you need granular filtering, that could become a lot of views... Yes, I think RPZ is really designed to be a ban hammer for dealing with abuse, rather than a general-purpose access control mechanism. If you need to get really fancy t

Re: Authority and forwarding, but not recursion/iteration

2021-03-12 Thread Tony Finch
Marki wrote: > > But if you need granular filtering, that could become a lot of views... Yes, I think RPZ is really designed to be a ban hammer for dealing with abuse, rather than a general-purpose access control mechanism. If you need to get really fancy then you should look at dnsdist which can

Re: Authority and forwarding, but not recursion/iteration

2021-03-10 Thread Marki
On 3/9/2021 10:21 PM, Tony Finch wrote: Marki wrote: I'm not sure about the flexibility of RPZ; it doesn't seem that I can have rules like "client 1.2.3.4 is allowed to look up example.com but client 1.2.3.5 is not". You can have multiple response-policy zones, which are matched in the order t

Re: Authority and forwarding, but not recursion/iteration

2021-03-09 Thread Tony Finch
Marki wrote: > > Concerning static-stub: Using a (bogus) forwarder together with "forward > first" (default) seems to work (Note: using "forward only" gives SERVFAIL). > All outside requests get a SERVFAIL even with "forward first" but that's an > esthetic problem. Yes, SERVFAIL is ugly - I shoul

Re: Authority and forwarding, but not recursion/iteration

2021-03-09 Thread Marki
On 3/9/2021 6:03 PM, Tony Finch wrote: Marki wrote: I am seeking a combination of either a combined configuration on one, or a config of several different DNS servers together to achieve the following: * Some clients should be able to resolve authoritative local zones as well as some forwarded

Re: Authority and forwarding, but not recursion/iteration

2021-03-09 Thread Tony Finch
Marki wrote: > > I am seeking a combination of either a combined configuration on one, or a > config of several different DNS servers together to achieve the following: > > * Some clients should be able to resolve authoritative local zones as well as > some forwarded zones. > > * Other clients sho

Re: Authority and forwarding, but not recursion/iteration

2021-03-07 Thread Crist Clark
e to specify a fake global forwarder which looks > like a hack. > > > On March 7, 2021 10:09:49 AM GMT+01:00, Crist Clark < > cjc+bind-us...@pumpky.net> wrote: >> >> Two views. The view that does not do internet DNS claims authority for >> the root and

Re: Authority and forwarding, but not recursion/iteration

2021-03-07 Thread Marki
rote: >Two views. The view that does not do internet DNS claims authority for >the >root and does not global forward. The entire DNS is just the zones >defined >in the view, which can be authoritative or forwarded. The other view >has >the global forward-only to upstream resolve

Re: Authority and forwarding, but not recursion/iteration

2021-03-07 Thread Crist Clark
Two views. The view that does not do internet DNS claims authority for the root and does not global forward. The entire DNS is just the zones defined in the view, which can be authoritative or forwarded. The other view has the global forward-only to upstream resolvers. On Sat, Mar 6, 2021 at 3:34

Re: Authority and forwarding, but not recursion/iteration

2021-03-06 Thread Marki
urn off recursion I can't prevent it to go and try to resolve from root DNS. How do I do one (local authority and forwarders) but not the other (iterative lookups on the Internet)? Thanks, Marki ___ Please visit ht

Re: Authority and forwarding, but not recursion/iteration

2021-03-06 Thread Crist Clark
her be configurable on the server. > > Now the problems are the following: > * Since I need forwarders I can't turn off recursion. > * Since I can't turn off recursion I can't prevent it to go and try to > resolve from root DNS. > > How do I do one (local au

Authority and forwarding, but not recursion/iteration

2021-03-05 Thread Marki
x27;t turn off recursion. * Since I can't turn off recursion I can't prevent it to go and try to resolve from root DNS. How do I do one (local authority and forwarders) but not the other (iterative lookups on the Internet)? Thanks, Marki _

Re: BIND 9.11.2 acting as a forwarder: authority section populated differently than BIND 9.9.11 ?

2018-02-13 Thread Tony Finch
Irwin Tillman wrote: > > When my server is running BIND 9.9.11, it returns an answer with the > authority section populated. > > But when I upgrade my server to BIND 9.11.2, the same lookup > performed immediately after I start my server returns no authority records, > whic

BIND 9.11.2 acting as a forwarder: authority section populated differently than BIND 9.9.11 ?

2018-02-13 Thread Irwin Tillman
I'm preparing to upgrade from BIND 9.9.11 to 9.11.2. I notice a difference in how named populates the authority section in some responses, and am trying to understand if it's OK. My server is a caching-only server, and provides recursive service. For some zones, my server is con

Re: authority

2016-10-25 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 25.10.2016 um 06:16 schrieb Nick Edwards: On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 7:11 AM, Reindl Harald mailto:h.rei...@thelounge.net>> wrote: i don't understand your question Since you have NOTHING to do with ISC or even remotely with bind, if you dont understand ,

Re: authority

2016-10-24 Thread Nick Edwards
On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 7:14 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > > this is a public mailing list - so what! > > when someone don't yet get the connection between nameservers, webserver > and ip-addresses he is not ready to connect public servers and that's > completly independent of the fact you ra el

Re: authority

2016-10-24 Thread Nick Edwards
On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 7:11 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > i don't understand your question >> >> >> Since you have NOTHING to do with ISC or even remotely with bind, if you >> dont understand , LEAVE IT TO SOMEONE WHO DOES >> > > and YOU have something to do with ISC? > i doubt! > > since i m

Re: authority

2016-10-24 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 24.10.2016 um 22:45 schrieb Nick Edwards: On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 12:42 AM, Reindl Harald mailto:h.rei...@thelounge.net>> wrote: don't get me wrong but that question shows that you are not ready to run a public dns server - there is no "local" or when you make statements like th

Re: authority

2016-10-24 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 24.10.2016 um 22:42 schrieb Nick Edwards: On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 12:11 AM, Reindl Harald mailto:h.rei...@thelounge.net>> wrote: identical like the first one Which IP should be use? i don't understand your question Since you have NOTHING to do with ISC or even remotely

Re: authority

2016-10-24 Thread Nick Edwards
On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 12:42 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > >> > don't get me wrong but that question shows that you are not ready to run a > public dns server - there is no "local" or > when you make statements like that to be sure you include the fact you have NOTHING to do with ISC or bind.

Re: authority

2016-10-24 Thread Nick Edwards
On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 12:11 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > identical like the first one > > Which IP should be use? >> > > i don't understand your question > > Since you have NOTHING to do with ISC or even remotely with bind, if you dont understand , LEAVE IT TO SOMEONE WHO DOES but you just cant

Re: authority

2016-10-24 Thread Pol Hallen
named virtual hosts anybody - you can run thousands of domains on a single IP understood Harld :) cheers Pol ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.i

Re: authority

2016-10-24 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 24.10.2016 um 16:35 schrieb Pol Hallen: so what are your real questions? P.S.: you need more than one DNS server for a public domain which must not run on the same network I have to register some domains: example.com, example.ue, example.net, exampe.org, etc. on my server I've also apach

Re: authority

2016-10-24 Thread Pol Hallen
so what are your real questions? P.S.: you need more than one DNS server for a public domain which must not run on the same network I have to register some domains: example.com, example.ue, example.net, exampe.org, etc. on my server I've also apache web and I'd like have internet site based

Re: authority

2016-10-24 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 24.10.2016 um 14:40 schrieb Pol Hallen: Hello all, after weeks studying bind I'm here with a question: I'd like have my own bind authority server for some domains. I just configured my first zone (ie: www.example.org) with static IP of my DSL. Everything works :-) If I regist

authority

2016-10-24 Thread Pol Hallen
Hello all, after weeks studying bind I'm here with a question: I'd like have my own bind authority server for some domains. I just configured my first zone (ie: www.example.org) with static IP of my DSL. Everything works :-) If I register another FQDN (ie: www.example.com) how ca

Re: Answers from cache or authority section?

2013-06-25 Thread John Horne
On Tue, 2013-06-25 at 17:20 +0100, Phil Mayers wrote: > On 25/06/13 16:53, John Horne wrote: > > > servers. However, there is a whole load of muttering that Microsoft and > > AD won't like that; it's all integrated with each other; running the DNS > > zone on Linux servers will be a problem with t

Re: Answers from cache or authority section?

2013-06-25 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
(you get a timeout). then, you must configure proper NS records for the 163.141.in-addr.arpa zone So I think my question is what is the resolver doing? Does it use cached NS records seen in the AUTHORITY section yes, that is the definition of AUTHORITATIVE data. if your servers are authoritative fo

Re: Answers from cache or authority section?

2013-06-25 Thread Chris Buxton
one of those using: > > dig +norecurse 163.141.in-addr.arpa ns @tinnie.arin.net > > (using 'tinnie' in this example) then I get our 4 NS records relating to > our local and remote name servers: > > == > ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: > 163.141.in-addr.arpa.

Re: Answers from cache or authority section?

2013-06-25 Thread John Horne
sing Google's > > name server, shouldn't it at some point have received the authoritative > > answer with the AUTHORITY section NS records and so be using those > > (internal) name servers for subsequent lookups? > > Using Google you will get unexpected results, not s

Re: Answers from cache or authority section?

2013-06-25 Thread Phil Mayers
On 25/06/13 16:53, John Horne wrote: servers. However, there is a whole load of muttering that Microsoft and AD won't like that; it's all integrated with each other; running the DNS zone on Linux servers will be a problem with the MS servers etc etc. I'm sure you know this, but just in case -

Re: Answers from cache or authority section?

2013-06-25 Thread Steven Carr
-authoritative answer. If I repeat this for addresses > 141.163.99.17, 18, 20 and so on I get answers. In all these cases > shouldn't the first lookup work and subsequent ones fail? Using Google's > name server, shouldn't it at some point have received the authoritative >

Re: Answers from cache or authority section?

2013-06-25 Thread John Horne
On Tue, 2013-06-25 at 10:46 -0400, Barry Margolin wrote: > > In addition, the authoritative answer may contain an Authority section. > These nameservers take precedence over the NS records from the > delegation -- the assumption is that the authoritative server knows its > domai

Re: Answers from cache or authority section?

2013-06-25 Thread Barry Margolin
In article , John Horne wrote: > So I think my question is what is the resolver doing? Does it use cached > NS records seen in the AUTHORITY section, or does it use NS records seen > in an ANSWER section? Or is it working its way down until it receives an > authoritative answer (&

Answers from cache or authority section?

2013-06-25 Thread John Horne
then I get our 4 NS records relating to our local and remote name servers: == ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: 163.141.in-addr.arpa. 172800 IN NS dns2.cis.strath.ac.uk. 163.141.in-addr.arpa. 172800 IN NS dns1.cis.strath.ac.uk. 163.141.in-addr.arpa. 172800 IN NS

Re: Survey - how many people running ISP nameservers define "minimal-responses" - was Re: What is the deal on missing "Authority Section" and "additional section" from google's DNS servers?

2012-07-12 Thread Barry Margolin
In article , Mark Andrews wrote: > In message , Barry > Margolin writes: > > In article , > > "Michael Hoskins (michoski)" wrote: > > > > > while it's largely personal preference -- i generally like to "be > > > conservative in what i send, and liberal in what i accept": > > > > > > http://

Re: Survey - how many people running ISP nameservers define "minimal-responses" - was Re: What is the deal on missing "Authority Section" and "additional section" from google's DNS servers?

2012-07-11 Thread Mark Andrews
In message , Barry Margolin writes: > In article , > "Michael Hoskins (michoski)" wrote: > > > while it's largely personal preference -- i generally like to "be > > conservative in what i send, and liberal in what i accept": > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robustness_principle > > This

Re: Survey - how many people running ISP nameservers define "minimal-responses" - was Re: What is the deal on missing "Authority Section" and "additional section" from google's DNS servers?

2012-07-11 Thread Barry Margolin
In article , "Michael Hoskins (michoski)" wrote: > while it's largely personal preference -- i generally like to "be > conservative in what i send, and liberal in what i accept": > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robustness_principle This doesn't refer to quantity, but to how strictly you shoul

Re: Survey - how many people running ISP nameservers define "minimal-responses" - was Re: What is the deal on missing "Authority Section" and "additional section" from google's DNS servers?

2012-07-11 Thread Michael Hoskins (michoski)
-Original Message- From: Ted Mittelstaedt Date: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 11:26 AM To: "bind-users@lists.isc.org" Subject: Survey - how many people running ISP nameservers define "minimal-responses" - was Re: What is the deal on missing "Authority Section

Survey - how many people running ISP nameservers define "minimal-responses" - was Re: What is the deal on missing "Authority Section" and "additional section" from google's DNS servers?

2012-07-11 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
On 7/10/2012 6:37 PM, Michael Hoskins (michoski) wrote: -Original Message- From: Ted Mittelstaedt Date: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 6:24 PM To: "bind-users@lists.isc.org" Subject: What is the deal on missing "Authority Section" and "additionalsection" from

Re: What is the deal on missing "Authority Section" and "additional section" from google's DNS servers?

2012-07-11 Thread Warren Kumari
t; >> Subject: What is the deal on missing "Authority Section" and >> "additional section" from google's DNS servers? >> >>> I can't seem to find an option to turn off additional data. How >>> does Google and OpenDNS do it? WHY do th

Re: What is the deal on missing "Authority Section" and "additional section" from google's DNS servers?

2012-07-11 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
On 7/10/2012 6:37 PM, Michael Hoskins (michoski) wrote: -Original Message- From: Ted Mittelstaedt Date: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 6:24 PM To: "bind-users@lists.isc.org" Subject: What is the deal on missing "Authority Section" and "additionalsection&q

Re: What is the deal on missing "Authority Section" and "additional section" from google's DNS servers?

2012-07-10 Thread Michael Hoskins (michoski)
-Original Message- From: Ted Mittelstaedt Date: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 6:24 PM To: "bind-users@lists.isc.org" Subject: What is the deal on missing "Authority Section" and "additional section" from google's DNS servers? > I can't seem to

What is the deal on missing "Authority Section" and "additional section" from google's DNS servers?

2012-07-10 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
r not sending mail to comcast.com users. When she switched to using Google's open DNS servers or opendns's servers, the problem went away. No other customer reported this and I see no problem with our own mailservers. In looking at the output of my own servers, I see data in authority

Re: about AUTHORITY SECTION

2011-07-09 Thread SM
At 00:04 08-07-2011, Chris Buxton wrote: As for Kevin's assertion that the SOA record in the authority section is required for a negative response, this is also incorrect. RFC 2308 is a proposed standard, not a standard. Further, section 8 of this RFC does not say explicitly that an SOA

Re: about AUTHORITY SECTION

2011-07-08 Thread Chris Buxton
On Jul 8, 2011, at 9:05 AM, Kevin Darcy wrote: > On 7/8/2011 3:04 AM, Chris Buxton wrote: >> As for Kevin's assertion that the SOA record in the authority section is >> required for a negative response, this is also incorrect. RFC 2308 is a >> proposed standard, not a

Re: about AUTHORITY SECTION

2011-07-08 Thread Kevin Darcy
On 7/8/2011 3:04 AM, Chris Buxton wrote: On Jul 7, 2011, at 6:32 PM, Feng He wrote: 2011/7/8 Kevin Darcy: I think it's worth emphasizing that in the first case, the contents of the Authority Section were *mandatory* (see RFC 2308, Negative Caching), whereas in the second case the authorit

Re: about AUTHORITY SECTION

2011-07-08 Thread Chris Buxton
On Jul 7, 2011, at 6:32 PM, Feng He wrote: > 2011/7/8 Kevin Darcy : >> I think it's worth emphasizing that in the first case, the contents of the >> Authority Section were *mandatory* (see RFC 2308, Negative Caching), whereas >> in the second case the authoritative

Re: about AUTHORITY SECTION

2011-07-07 Thread Feng He
2011/7/8 Kevin Darcy : > > I think it's worth emphasizing that in the first case, the contents of the > Authority Section were *mandatory* (see RFC 2308, Negative Caching), whereas > in the second case the authoritative nameserver was *optionally* providing > NS records in t

Re: about AUTHORITY SECTION

2011-07-07 Thread Kevin Darcy
On 7/7/2011 1:50 AM, Torinthiel wrote: On 07/07/11 04:56, pa...@laposte.net wrote: Hello, I got two different forms of AUTHORITY SECTION from the dig, for example, $ dig mydots.net @ns7.dnsbed.com ;<<>> DiG 9.4.2-P2.1<<>> mydots.net @ns7.dnsbed.com ;; global options

Re: about AUTHORITY SECTION

2011-07-06 Thread Torinthiel
On 07/07/11 04:56, pa...@laposte.net wrote: > > Hello, > > I got two different forms of AUTHORITY SECTION from the dig, for example, > > $ dig mydots.net @ns7.dnsbed.com > > ; <<>> DiG 9.4.2-P2.1 <<>> mydots.net @ns7.dnsbed.com > ;; globa

about AUTHORITY SECTION

2011-07-06 Thread pangj
Hello, I got two different forms of AUTHORITY SECTION from the dig, for example, $ dig mydots.net @ns7.dnsbed.com ; <<>> DiG 9.4.2-P2.1 <<>> mydots.net @ns7.dnsbed.com ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: N

Re: does authority named require the external name servers?

2011-05-06 Thread Jeff Pang
2011/5/6 Matus UHLAR - fantomas : > > BIND will search for def.com only for recursive queries, not for iterative, > and only when the client has recursion allowed on it. > you are totally mis-unstanding me. -- Jeff Pang www.DNSbed.com ___ bind-users m

Re: does authority named require the external name servers?

2011-05-06 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
> 2011/5/2 Torinthiel : > > Authority named never sends queries on it's own, only responds to > > submitted queries. On 02.05.11 20:17, Jeff Pang wrote: > Doesn't it execute iterative query from the root server? root servers do not send queries. > For example, gi

Re: does authority named require the external name servers?

2011-05-03 Thread Kevin Darcy
kups based on its root hints (compiled in or otherwise), not by using the OS resolver. Hi Chris, That's what the real question I want to know. For example, my DNS Servers have lots of domains hosting, all the zones have the same NS RRs: ns1.dnsbed.com ns2.dnsbed.com But dnsbed.com is not

Re: does authority named require the external name servers?

2011-05-02 Thread Jeff Pang
>> lookups based on its root hints (compiled in or otherwise), not >> by using the OS resolver. >> > > Hi Chris, > > That's what the real question I want to know. > For example, my DNS Servers have lots of domains hosting, all the > zones have the same NS

Re: does authority named require the external name servers?

2011-05-02 Thread Jeff Pang
or otherwise), not > by using the OS resolver. > Hi Chris, That's what the real question I want to know. For example, my DNS Servers have lots of domains hosting, all the zones have the same NS RRs: ns1.dnsbed.com ns2.dnsbed.com But dnsbed.com is not authority resolved by my own name

Re: does authority named require the external name servers?

2011-05-02 Thread Chris Thompson
On May 2 2011, Torinthiel wrote: On 05/02/11 14:20, Jeff Pang wrote: 2011/5/2 Jeff Pang : 2011/5/2 Torinthiel : Authority named never sends queries on it's own, only responds to submitted queries. Doesn't it execute iterative query from the root server? For example, given the

Re: does authority named require the external name servers?

2011-05-02 Thread Torinthiel
On 05/02/11 14:20, Jeff Pang wrote: > 2011/5/2 Jeff Pang : >> 2011/5/2 Torinthiel : >> >>> Authority named never sends queries on it's own, only responds to >>> submitted queries. >> Doesn't it execute iterative query from the root server? >>

Re: does authority named require the external name servers?

2011-05-02 Thread Jeff Pang
2011/5/2 Jeff Pang : > 2011/5/2 Torinthiel : > >> >> Authority named never sends queries on it's own, only responds to >> submitted queries. > > Doesn't it execute iterative query from the root server? > > For example, given the nameserver is autho

Re: does authority named require the external name servers?

2011-05-02 Thread Jeff Pang
2011/5/2 Torinthiel : > > Authority named never sends queries on it's own, only responds to > submitted queries. Doesn't it execute iterative query from the root server? For example, given the nameserver is authority for abc.com. And abc.com has two NS RRs: abc.com.IN

Re: does authority named require the external name servers?

2011-05-02 Thread Torinthiel
On 05/02/11 09:16, Jeff Pang wrote: > When I run the authority named on a linux/unix like system, but don't > put the reachable public nameservers on /etc/resolv.conf. > What will happen to the authority named? Will it work right? Authority named never sends queries on it's ow

does authority named require the external name servers?

2011-05-02 Thread Jeff Pang
When I run the authority named on a linux/unix like system, but don't put the reachable public nameservers on /etc/resolv.conf. What will happen to the authority named? Will it work right? Thanks. ___ bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.is

Re: about AUTHORITY SECTION

2011-03-04 Thread terry
2011/3/5 Mark Andrews : >> So why does ns33.domaincontrol.com answer with ANSWER SECTION rather >> than AUTHORITY SECTION? > > If you ask with rd=0 (+norec), which is what nameservers do, you > get the referral.  Presumably ns33.domaincontrol.com is running > BIND 8 which

Re: about AUTHORITY SECTION

2011-03-04 Thread Mark Andrews
;> DiG 9.4.2-P2.1 <<>> test.nsbeta.info ns @ns33.domaincontrol.com > ;; global options: printcmd > ;; Got answer: > ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 13538 > ;; flags: qr rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0 > ;; W

Re: about AUTHORITY SECTION

2011-03-04 Thread terry
tcmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 13538 ;; flags: qr rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; WARNING: recursion requested but not available ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;test.nsbeta.info. IN NS ;; ANSWER SECTION: test.nsbet

Re: about AUTHORITY SECTION

2011-03-04 Thread Torinthiel
> >Please see this for details: > >$ dig nsbeta.info ns @ns34.domaincontrol.com > >; <<>> DiG 9.4.2-P2.1 <<>> nsbeta.info ns @ns34.domaincontrol.com >;; global options: printcmd >;; Got answer: >;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR

Re: about AUTHORITY SECTION

2011-03-04 Thread terry
 3600  IN NS  ns2.another.com. >> >> Then I dig to the auth-server of the example zone: >> >> dig test.example.com ns @ns1.example.com >> >> I found some servers return the ANSWER SECTION, but some servers >> return the AUTHORITY SECTION. >> >&

Re: about AUTHORITY SECTION

2011-03-04 Thread Mark Andrews
-server of the example zone: > > dig test.example.com ns @ns1.example.com > > I found some servers return the ANSWER SECTION, but some servers > return the AUTHORITY SECTION. > > For example: > > ;; ANSWER SECTION: > test.example.com. 3600IN NS ns2.

about AUTHORITY SECTION

2011-03-04 Thread terry
some servers return the ANSWER SECTION, but some servers return the AUTHORITY SECTION. For example: ;; ANSWER SECTION: test.example.com. 3600IN NS ns2.another.com. test.example.com. 3600IN NS ns1.another.com. And: ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: test.example.com

Re: ignoring incorrect nameservers in authority section

2011-01-06 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
> Quoting from Chris Buxton's mail on Thu, Dec 23, 2010: > > > Is there any option to add workarounds for specific domains / > > > nameservers like the ones listed above? > > > > Possibly. You can try setting up conditional forwarding for the problem > > domain, setting the authoritative name ser

Re: ignoring incorrect nameservers in authority section

2010-12-30 Thread Torinthiel
= >>> $ dig +norecurse @a.iana-servers.net. example.org. >>> ;; flags: qr ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 0 >>> >>> ;; QUESTION SECTION: >>> ;example.org. IN A >>> >>> ;; ANSWER SECTION: >>&

Re: ignoring incorrect nameservers in authority section

2010-12-30 Thread Torinthiel
->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 31949 >;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0 > >;; QUESTION SECTION: >;dev.game.yy.com. IN A > >;; ANSWER SECTION: >dev.game.yy.com.1800IN

Re: ignoring incorrect nameservers in authority section

2010-12-30 Thread Stacey Jonathan Marshall - Solaris Software
, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;example.org. IN A ;; ANSWER SECTION: example.org.172800 IN A 192.0.32.10 ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: example.org.172800 IN NS ns1.example.org. example.org.172800 IN NS ns2.example.org

Re: ignoring incorrect nameservers in authority section

2010-12-30 Thread pyh
has authorative data), but in authority section is not listed in nameservers, which states it does not have authorative data. Thanks a lot. Please see this dig: $ dig +norec dev.game.yy.com @202.96.128.166 ; <<>> DiG 9.4.2-P2 <<>> +norec dev.game.yy.com @202.96.128.

Re: ignoring incorrect nameservers in authority section

2010-12-30 Thread Torinthiel
Dnia 2010-12-30 18:03 p...@mail.nsbeta.info napisał(a): >Sunil Shetye writes: > >> >> Case 2: Lame Server Reply >> >> === >> $ dig +norecurse @a.iana-servers.net. example.org. >> ;; fl

Re: ignoring incorrect nameservers in authority section

2010-12-30 Thread Sunil Shetye
Quoting from p...@mail.nsbeta.info's mail on Thu, Dec 30, 2010: > Where is the document for these flags? > I google'd but got no correct result :) http://www.tcpipguide.com/free/t_DNSMessageHeaderandQuestionSectionFormat.htm -- Sunil Shetye. ___ bind-u

Re: ignoring incorrect nameservers in authority section

2010-12-30 Thread pyh
Sunil Shetye writes: Case 2: Lame Server Reply === $ dig +norecurse @a.iana-servers.net. example.org. ;; flags: qr ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;example.org. IN A ;; ANSWER

Re: ignoring incorrect nameservers in authority section

2010-12-30 Thread pyh
Sunil Shetye writes: Quoting from p...@mail.nsbeta.info's mail on Thu, Dec 30, 2010: What's the difference between these two flags in the response of dig? < ;; flags: qr ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 0 ra : recursion available The nameserver is ready

Re: ignoring incorrect nameservers in authority section

2010-12-29 Thread Sunil Shetye
Quoting from p...@mail.nsbeta.info's mail on Thu, Dec 30, 2010: > What's the difference between these two flags in the response of > dig? > > < ;; flags: qr ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 0 ra : recursion available The nameserver is ready to ask

Re: ignoring incorrect nameservers in authority section

2010-12-29 Thread pyh
What's the difference between these two flags in the response of dig? < ;; flags: qr ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 0 --- ;; flags: qr aa; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 0 Thanks in advance. Sunil Shetye writes: Quoting from David Sparro&#

Re: ignoring incorrect nameservers in authority section

2010-12-28 Thread Sunil Shetye
als, refused replies, and other errors): Case 1: Authoritative Server Reply === $ dig +norecurse @a.iana-servers.net. example.org. ;; flags: qr aa; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;example.org. IN A ;; ANSWER SECTION: example.org.172800 IN A 1

Re: ignoring incorrect nameservers in authority section

2010-12-28 Thread David Sparro
On 12/24/2010 2:51 AM, Sunil Shetye wrote: Here, I can see that the nameserver is giving the right replies to all queries except the NS queries. How can an authoritative server give "wrong" answers? I was hoping that either bind should catch such cases automatically or allow some workaround

Re: ignoring incorrect nameservers in authority section

2010-12-23 Thread Sunil Shetye
Quoting from Chris Buxton's mail on Thu, Dec 23, 2010: > > Is there any option to add workarounds for specific domains / > > nameservers like the ones listed above? > > Possibly. You can try setting up conditional forwarding for the problem > domain, setting the authoritative name servers as the

Re: ignoring incorrect nameservers in authority section

2010-12-23 Thread Chris Buxton
On Dec 22, 2010, at 4:55 AM, Sunil Shetye wrote: > Is there any option to add workarounds for specific domains / > nameservers like the ones listed above? Possibly. You can try setting up conditional forwarding for the problem domain, setting the authoritative name servers as the 'forwarders' li

Re: ignoring incorrect nameservers in authority section

2010-12-22 Thread Benny Pedersen
On ons 22 dec 2010 10:09:10 CET, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote Well, first find which is the real problem - domain delegated to invalisd servers, server providing invalid data, and than you have to fix what is broken. Give us a real example if we have to provider real solution. zone "rfc-ignor

Re: ignoring incorrect nameservers in authority section

2010-12-22 Thread Sunil Shetye
not practical for me to start communicating with those admininstrators and find out who is to blamed for that. It is easier for me if: - named caches the authority section from the reply of the parent nameserver only, or - named does not cache the authority section at all. > > Case 2:

Re: ignoring incorrect nameservers in authority section

2010-12-22 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
> Quoting from Matus UHLAR - fantomas's mail on Wed, Dec 22, 2010: > > > Is there any solution to this problem without contacting the DNS > > > administrator of that domain? I have seen this problem for many > > > domains on the internet. > > > > Well, first find which is the real problem - domain

Re: ignoring incorrect nameservers in authority section

2010-12-22 Thread Sunil Shetye
com. Fake Nameservers: ns5.zenexpress.com. ns6.zenexpress.com. == $ dig +norecurse @a.gtld-servers.net. e-nxt.com. ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;e-nxt.com. IN A ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: e-nxt.com. 172800 IN NS ns1.webpresenceworld

Re: ignoring incorrect nameservers in authority section

2010-12-22 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 22.12.10 14:01, Sunil Shetye wrote: > Some authoritative nameservers add incorrect nameservers in the > authority section of their replies. Which authority and which domain? Most of authorities add nameservers domain was registered on. > Due to caching of the incorrect > re

ignoring incorrect nameservers in authority section

2010-12-22 Thread Sunil Shetye
Hi, Some authoritative nameservers add incorrect nameservers in the authority section of their replies. Due to caching of the incorrect reply, further queries for that domain go to those incorrect nameservers. Is there a way to ignore / not cache such replies? For example, if ns1.realserver.com

missing authority and additional sections using bind-sdb-9.6.1-13.P2 (FC12)

2009-12-24 Thread Michael Mussulis
RedHat-9.6.1-7.P2.fc11 <<>> @192.168.0.82 test24.com any; (1 server found);; global options: +cmd;; Got answer:;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 23242;; flags: qr aa rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 4, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0;; WARNING: recursion requested but

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