Re: [blackbelly] sale prices in OKla

2006-06-22 Thread Cecil Bearden
Barb: Thanks for the encouragement, but I really do not have the heart or lack of it to butcher one of my lambs. I have the experience, the equipment and could make a walk in cooler our of an old airconditioner unit, I have done that for others. I can skin and butcher most any animal, but afte

Re: [blackbelly] DE

2006-06-22 Thread Onalee Israel, Onalee's Home Grown Seeds
I don't know if it's true or not, but many sites say the DE you buy for the pool filters doesn't work the same as the 'nursery' or food grade DE. It may just be hype from the people that want you to buy the expensive DE, I don't know. I have also read somewhere that DE does not hurt Earthworms

Re: [blackbelly] sale prices in OKla

2006-06-22 Thread Cecil Bearden
I wish I could get some of those good proces for my hay. I had to sell mine for $30 a bale thru the new local feed store to get it sold. I waited 28 years for retirement eligibility and spent the past 6 years trying to build up a healthy flock. I had planned to retire in January and I would

Re: [blackbelly] sale prices in OKla

2006-06-22 Thread Cecil Bearden
We had no wheat hay around here. There wasn't any wheat crop. I planted cane for hay and finally got a rain last Saturday and luckily there was another one this morning to melt the crust so it would come through. I need 50 round bales to get through the winter... Cecil in Okla - Original

Re: [blackbelly] DE

2006-06-22 Thread Cecil Bearden
As I recall DE is used in swimming pool filters. I bought some 10 years ago to put around the house to kill the crickets. I think it was about $3 a bag back then.. Probably still have some sitting around in storage somewhere. It is an ingredient in flea powder... Cecil in OKla - Original

Re: [blackbelly] DE

2006-06-22 Thread Barb Lee
Julian, can you quote your source? How could DE cut up internal worms and maggots, and not earthworms or dung beetle larvae? I am not challenging you, I'd just like to read it from the source. Thanks, Barb - Original Message - From: "Julian Hale" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursd

Re: [blackbelly] DE

2006-06-22 Thread Julian Hale
At 07:27 PM 6/21/2006, you wrote: >I think it would probably mean death to earthworms and dung beetles too. >Maybe fly predators would be a solution worth considering. > >Barb Fly predators are $$$. DE is not harmful to earthworms, and I've found anecdotal evidence that it is not harmful to du

Re: [blackbelly] sale prices in OKla

2006-06-22 Thread Barb Lee
Cecil, I think you're hitting on a painful truth that is being recognized far and wide - that the small farmer, in order to survive, has to go direct to the consumer. Most farmers don't want to be marketers. But a lot of consumers out there are getting wise to the consequences of factory farm

Re: [blackbelly] sale prices in OKla

2006-06-22 Thread RBMuller
Hay last winter in Central TX was going for $125 /round bales, small squares were $10 a bale. Alfalfa was cheaper so I went with alfalfa for the winter. Sheep did beautifully on it! The local markets took a nose dive last week for sheep and goats. We normally have strong markets in this area.

Re: [blackbelly] sale prices in OKla

2006-06-22 Thread Cecil Bearden
I contacted the sale barn today and they checked the videotape of when my sheep were sold. They run them through in the order they are checked in. I delivered my sheep at about 9:30 am and they were not sold when I came back at 5:00 pm. 1800 head of sheep and goats were consigned last Saturda

Re: [blackbelly] Age to slaughter

2006-06-22 Thread Barb Lee
My relatively limited experience is that there is no such thing as uniformity of size in the horned blackbelly sheep. I've had yearlings only come up to 50 pounds, and I just sold/slaughtered two yearlings at right around the 100 pound mark. "When to slaughter" I think starts with a program of

Re: [blackbelly] Age to slaughter

2006-06-22 Thread Crawford, Dr. Stephen
Stephanie: We normally wait until they are about one year of age. Much more meat and well worth the wait. Steve *** Dr. Stephen Crawford Director of Bands & Percussion Studies University of Mary Hardin-Baylor 900 College St. Belton, TX 76513 PH: 25

Re: [blackbelly] Age to slaughter

2006-06-22 Thread Diane Wright
Good question! I'm hoping you get good answers sent to the list so I can learn too! Diane ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info