I've also attached the one I have, it goes
into /etc/menu-methods/blackbox. I use it by running this command in cron:
/usr/bin/update-menus --menumethod /etc/menu-methods/blackbox
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the "preview" testers who have already
> helped me out in that area.
It's a decent theme, turned out quite alright. But I'd fix that screenshot
on Freshmeat if I were you, those jagged fonts don't do it justice.
They'll turn people off.
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ng XLFD font notation you essentially
tell Blackbox you want it to use legacy X rendering for that font, in turn
giving up FontConfig support, which implies anti-aliasing! So you should be
careful what fonts you use. Many of them are notorious for looking
disgusting without AA.
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. Also consider whether
the recipient of a style has AA activated or not, hinting activated or not
and so on. Some fonts produce nasty suprises in different circumstances.
The Artwiz fonts -- and I think the fixed font too -- are bitmap fonts so
they're not subject to much rendering variance.
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On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 21:31:39 +0200, Bernhard Fischer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Mon, Sep 11, 2006 at 02:24:53PM -0500, Larson, Timothy E. wrote:
What about fc-list? Which is better?
I don't know which is "better", i'm always using xlsfonts..
There's an (important) difference. There are ac
On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 14:21:49 -0500, "Larson, Timothy E."
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I understand the necessity of having per-user overrides. I don't
understand why the style can't set defaults. If a style is for getting
a certain "look" then it should be able to modify virtually anything to
ac
ve it a trial run for
> usability. Any takers?
Just post the text file somewhere on the Web, give us the URL and I'll be
happy to load it and see how it looks.
One more thing, before you get ready to publish the style please read this:
http://blackboxwm.sourceforge.net/BlackboxDocumentation/BlackboxStyles/StyleDistribution
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he window doesn't show in bbkeys' list.
Anything I'm missing?
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tup further he can, but he won't be penalized if he
doesn't have the time to do it right away. The bbtools may be gone but
replacement would be readily available.
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think of a bbtool that doesn't have a counterpart as an applet or dockapp
of some kind.
Besides, perhaps the issue is stated backwards. Forgive me if I'm
wrong, as I'm not familiar with bbtools' code, but shouldn't the tools be
made compatible with 0.70.x, not the ot
n window class and name, not on wm
hints, so it's only halfway there. If and when it will support matching
for certain window states I suppose it will be able to do such cool tricks.
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them.
1) Solid (aka inverted) buttons, the kind where the background is NOT
transparent.
2) Boundary checking. Adding shadows (to both text and buttons) will
increase the respective bars by 1px. Is there any case when the
button/text shadow runs off the bar? How about if we combine w/ problem
(1)?
seem more intuitive. And textShadow does too.
Once you're put things together, it would help to make a tarball with
everything (patch, readme, styles) and open a patch on SourceForge.
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[Execute](Mod1-F10) {import ~/screen-`date +%Y%m%d%H%M%S`.png}
[Execute](Mod1-F11) {/usr/sbin/vbetool dpms on;touch /tmp/dpms}
[Execute](Mod1-F12) {xscreensaver-command -lock}
Do these work for y
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> I've decided to give gnome-panel a try. Only one problem so far: when it
> starts, it's not right against the top edge, there's a space there, as if
> there was another panel between it
check "expand", it jumps back where it
should be, against the margin.
Both panels do that, the upper and the lower one. It's very strange, haven't
seen anything like it. fbpanel, rox pinboard and so on don't do that. Anybody
have any clue about this?
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rest of the desktop tools. If you can't write one let me know, I'll put one
together, it's not very complicated.
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usability test for those defaults.
Note that they are not identical, the Blackbox default and the
bstyleconvert default.
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ead of
writing a full GUI from scratch. The fbpanel config file has a simple
syntax and, naturally, he already has a parser written. The only issue I
see is that Anatoly is probably more versed in GTK/C than Qt/C++.
Many people use fbpanel together with Blackbox, from what I gather, so
this would ma
ptional LIRC support, selected at compilation time. This
way bbkeys could become both a keyboard handler and a means to control the
mouse and the keys via infrared remote.
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I've managed to reduce the macros produced by xnee to only 6 lines, which
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elf that at 16 depth some backgrounds look
less then all right. It depends on how the image was created, of course,
but most people seem to create them for 24+.
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>
> Arrived at this by following Nyz indications for 'activate'.
You ought to record this fix on the fbpanel SF tracker as well.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/fbpanel
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With so many things that can go wrong, why bother implementing it in
bbkeys? We can just tell people how to implement the kludge with xmacro or
xnee and let it at that.
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All valid objections. And I can add that if you try xmacroplay from bbkeys
instead of the terminal, you won't be able to focus the bb menu either.
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that can be overcome.
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had time to test
his solution, I'll get back to the list when I do. In short, it's about
using a command line tool triggered from bbkeys to emulate the mouse
activity necessary to popup the Blackbox menu.
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May I point out, after seeing the responses you got, that you're probably
not going to find very high specs in the Blackbox crowd. The very same
line of thinking that made them choose Blackbox will keep them from
upgrading just because "it's cool".
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ICCCM is still very much useful.
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p. I should have a
> sign around my neck saying confront me if I don't ask for help.
Try looking at the source of bbkeys, see what it does when it processes
the toggleDecorations command. Blackbox has to deal with every known kind
of window so I expect it's harder to find the answer in _it
try.
Rather worth a bug report at this point. Something is wrong and it should
be filed so it's taken into account and (hopefully) fixed.
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> On Mon, May 16, 2005 at 05:01:40PM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote
> > On Mon, May 16, 2005 at 10:49:06AM +0300, Ciprian Popovici wrote
> >
> > > Is it a recent Firefox? I've seen some wacky
's posted here though:
http://blackboxwm.sourceforge.net/BlackboxAddons/Software
There's also dockapps.org. Since your app loads in the slit and matches
the 64x64 size I think it qualifies as a dockapp.
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> #!/bin/sh
> echo -e "MotionNotify 1023 350\nButtonPress 3\nButtonRelease 3" |\
> xmacroplay :0.0
>
>[...]
> Only one little annoyance: it works great when run from a terminal. BUT
> when run from bbkeys, either di
can figure out why this happens or how to fix it, I'm guessing
we'd be making a lot of people happy.
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but nothing in the latest ones.
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> I am looking for? Either way, where can I get some docs on this
> standard... Thanks!
http://freedesktop.org/Standards/wm-spec
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skbars at the
same time, one of which shows regular windows (icon+text) and the other
showing iconified windows (icon only). It's a very neat feature, kind of
like having "minimize to tray" for any window.
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skbars at the
same time, one of which shows regular windows (icon+text) and the other
showing iconified windows (icon only). It's a very neat feature, kind of
like having "minimize to tray" for any window.
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ge" means the screen edges (well,
struts really, which also means panels, slit, toolbar, etc.).
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> Just one more wishlist item. Is there a command to exit blackbox via
> bbkeys?
Bind a shortcut to `killall blackbox`.
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> 050501 Ciprian Popovici wrote:
> > The background cmd is overwritten by the rootCommand in the loaded
> > style, which in turn is superseded by the session.rootCommand directive
> > in your Black
ust take a moment to migrate to 0.70 properly. It's been very usable for
almost a year now, if I dare say so.
Also, 0.70 can use lots of EWMH tools, see this page:
http://blackboxwm.sourceforge.net/BlackboxAddons/Software
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it to CVS. No idea if and when it will make it into
CVS.
After applying, use session.showGeometry: False in the Blackbox rc file,
or use the config menu.
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esize, I can't see why anybody would wish
for transparent. Opaque allows the application contained in the window to
run while the window is resized. Transparent freezes the application
during this time. But there's already an option for that, so the point is
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rf autom4te.cache
Note the -I which adds m4 files in non-standard places. Use as many as you
need.
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killall sylpheed && sleep 1
Instead of running blackbox directly from your .xinitrc, run a script such
as this:
exec myscript.sh
and myscript.sh being:
#!/bin/sh
blackbox
killall sylpheed && sleep 1
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pen with Blackbox 0.65
I can't recall if it happened with 0.65, since it occurs very seldom
here. But I do have a rather old keyboard (which I keep because I like
it) whose controller sometimes (seldom, as I said) gets confused by
rapid multiple key combinations. So that would support
that terminates applications. I believe you can
devise a simple shell script using the `trap` Bash builtin command to
determine what signal it receives. Although if you say Sylpheed seems to
die a messy death, a SIGKILL may already be suspected.
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ssue is with MPlayer and not with Blackbox?
Can you explain how the patch solves the problem, for those of us who
are not experienced enough in C++ or/and MPlayer code?
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you use the bbpager pulled from CVS. I'm not sure
if there was a formal release for a bbpager that will work with Blackbox
0.70+.
Second, check your bbpager configuration in ~/.bbtools/bbpager.bb (IIRC).
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> check out devilspie: http://www.burtonini.com/blog/computers/devilspie
wmctrl may also be useful:
http://sweb.cz/tripie/utils/wmctrl/
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is what I'll do.
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utton if it didn't.
I'll get poedit and try myself (gave me some trouble last time I installed
it). You can probably file a bug report and attack that picture. What
poedit version is it? I'm guessing you compiled against wxgtk linked with
GTK v1 from the picture?
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> poedit 1.3.1 on Debian 3.1 ? Or is that just a specific poedit bug ?
> I can`t file a bugreport to Debian 'cause I compiled BB-0.70.0 myself
> and want to make shure that it is a bug in poedit and not in BB
Can you provide a screenshot of the poedit window? A picture's
, perhaps others can suggest their favorite. I also have a couple of
Bash scripts that can produce them for you, if you don't mind switching
GTK+ themes from the console and no preview. Contact me privately
(anybody) if you want them, this is not exactly a Blackbox issue anymore.
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themes work regardless what window manager you use. What exactly is it
you're trying to accomplish by using this gnome-settings-daemon? I for one
have had no trouble using GTK+ and Gnome application without it, in fact
it's the first time I've ever heard of it.
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ld be for the best to open a bug on the tracker and paste all your
findings there. It helps Brad to have bugs neatly aligned and documented.
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=40696&atid=428680
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? Perhaps kwm or metacity? I'm not
sure twm contains the latest EWMH stuff.
Does Blackbox behave strangely too or just your app? You can probably
debug your application using command line tools that report the state of
EWMH flags for that window. Stuff like xwininfo or wmctrl, perhaps others
.]
The focus issues are known to Brad and he admitted they need more work.
It's good you took the trouble to document the behaviour, he'll probably
be able to use it.
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ter slightly; there you are.
With 0.65 you could tear off the iconified window menu and leave it
hanging around, but 0.70 hasn't reimplemented tear-off menus.
As a visual alternative, I use fbpanel, which lets you see the iconified
windows all the time in the form of a taskbar.
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> On Thu, Mar 24, 2005 at 04:05:10AM +0200, Ciprian Popovici wrote:
> > I don't think you need to worry. And stop looking at the console
> > output, it only generates needless worries. :)
>
>
sole output,
it only generates needless worries. :)
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ed. I am
> using:
Send me that style. I can't reproduce the problem with just the fonts,
perhaps the style has something special (it happened on another occasion
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No. Blackbox limits the texture cache to a fixed, hardcoded, limit (2 MB),
and reports when it fills up. It's purely an informative message.
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> borderless aterm. That's all.
Depends how you look at the issue. Aterm in itself has nothing to do with
window decors, adding decors and managing them is a window manager's job,
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the window. 0.70 has
the titlebar, the handle+grip at the bottom, plus two bars on the sides.
On the other hand, decor can be toggled on/off via bbkeys on a per window
basis, or you can use devilspie to set it off always for all aterms.
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n to the "grabbing nightly snapshots" section. Use the instructions
there, but replace "blackboxwm" with "bbpager" everywhere.
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the script called
> from /etc/X11/wmsession.d
> I'm without clue on this.
Start with the basics, compare the scripts and environment for yourself
and for the others. Dump the contents of `set` somewhere for different
persons, see what differs. Maybe $HOME takes a strange value for ins
it was used in the sense "no functionality above the strict
necessities", but I don't know how it was interpreted in the article. Was
it taken out of context, as in "doesn't plan to move past 0.65 anymore?"
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ppearance. In which
case, if you didn't add anything else, the slit border just follows a more
generic borderWidth for the thickness, and takes white because that's
default. Go adjust it some more.
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rong reasons. That's
how I perceived this.
I also think there's no need for Blackbox evangelism, if that's what you
meant. Only certain people really like using Blackbox, there's no need to
force it on the others.
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he website is lacking let's discuss it.
Blackbox development has its very slow days which sometimes amount to
months, that will never change.
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"sans" and "sans serif") to a probably well thought out
selection of (currently) 14 fonts.
Try a recent CVS and let's take it from there. The CVS moves pretty often
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Gentoo when it releases a
stable version, or you can pick up a CVS version and use it right
now. Same goes for bbkeys (use CVS).
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r, but someone more knowledgeable should tell us if
the events are indeed different. If so, we could log a request.
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(or transparent). is this intentional or have I found a bug?
The frame suffered some modifications in 0.70. See README.styles in the
package. What you're looking for now is window.frame, to which you can apply
color, border and all kinds of things. FYI, in 0.70 the frame doesn't go
all ar
ar case it has to do with lbreakout2. I talked
with the author a while back and he said lbreakout2 should do something
that prevented other windows from hindering its full screen. Dunno if
he implemented it since.
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> > The problem is *definately* mplayer, not the window manager. I wish
> > I'd saved the reference to the mplayer-dev posting that described t
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 09:49:00 +0200 Ciprian Popovici <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Quoting Marc Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > The problem is *definately* mplayer, not the window manager. I wish
> > I'd saved the reference to the mplayer-dev posting that described t
t there, it will make things
easier for Brad.
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Changes workspace (X)
>Changes focus
>Reverse scroll
>
> so it's already a toggle AFAICS : just what do you propose to change ?
Umm, what desktop menu is that? My Blackbox config menu from
ce indicates it's mplayer's fault. I'll grab another version
and report back.
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On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 10:44:03 +0100 Bradley T Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Ciprian Popovici wrote:
> [snip]
> > These defaults result in defective fullscreen attempts (the missing
> > bottom quarter I described). Who's around that uses the FULLSCREEN
> >
Quoting Bradley T Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Ciprian Popovici wrote:
> I thought so... 8x8 or 16x16 (possibly configurable?) checkers in the
> same style as interlacing (i.e. one box is slightly darker than the
> other). Would make a sexy background :)
I'd say con
Quoting "Bradley T. Hughes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Ciprian Popovici wrote:
> I think that covers it... I had a crazy idea the other night in my
> sleep: adding a "checkered" texture which would work like interlaced,
> except that it would render a checkere
not particularly, I was just stating my "discovery" not wishing
for it to be otherwise. It may even be more flexible this way, I
am all for flexibility. Not all fonts can be used by fontconfig
and I dunno how reliable a translation from XLFD to fontconfig
namespace can be. It may be more trouble
ally like this change. I like "foregroundColor" better, which
> is why I changed it to that :)
I suspected you like it. Did you have some future development in mind for
this? I still think "foreground" is too generic; after all, text is
foreground too.
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On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 22:39:18 +0100 Bradley T Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Ciprian Popovici wrote:
> > If you specify an improper fontconfig font handle, such as just
> > "Verdana" instead of "Verdana-10", it will make Blackbox crash. Can
> > an
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 21:02:09 -0800 Marc Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 23, 2005 at 09:40:52PM +0200, Ciprian Popovici wrote:
> > Using -vo xv in mplayer, on a 16:9 movie. Attempting to go fullscreen
> > (via mplayer's 'f' key) produces a fullsc
st 3 changes but I think they'd really make a difference.
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hough.
What does it allow you to do anyway? I've never been quite sure of this.
Does it simply allow for parts of the Blackbox code to be reused, such
as the new bbkeys does with the menu? Or does it also offer means of
communicating with Blackbox? Or something more?
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Quoting Marcin Cylke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> W dniu Mon, 24 Jan 2005 22:43:20 +0200
> Ciprian Popovici <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> napisales:
>
> > > well, if Bbconf has been abandoned, perhaps you could adopt it ?
> >
> > It would be ok if it didn't involve
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