Re: bug 559604

2002-05-24 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 25-May-2002 Robert wrote: > On Fri, 24 May 2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>> >>> And to confirm (though I guess its old news by now) that I'm seeing this >>> problem with alpha5 and 1.0.6 and mandrake 8.2 >>> >>> Time to download the new one and I might even try to have time to revi

Re: alpha7 released

2002-05-24 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
> > It's great to have the bbtools back! Boy, these alpha releases are > really comin' along, this one seems pretty damn solid. Are we to expect > the next release to be of the beta persuasion? this release is a little less stable than the last few in terms of transient behaviour (we still are

Re: alpha7 released

2002-05-24 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 25-May-2002 Matt Wilson wrote: > On Sat, 2002-05-25 at 18:51, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: >> > >> > Only thing I've spotted so far is that windows are still getting placed >> > underneath the toolbar (although, and I may be wrong about this, it >> > seems to be only transients - dialogs, progre

Re: bug 559604

2002-05-24 Thread Robert
On Fri, 24 May 2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> >> >> And to confirm (though I guess its old news by now) that I'm seeing this >> problem with alpha5 and 1.0.6 and mandrake 8.2 >> >> Time to download the new one and I might even try to have time to review >> code.. >> > > we are very curio

Re: alpha7 released

2002-05-24 Thread Mr . X
On Fri, 24 May 2002 09:38:08 -0700 (PDT) "Sean 'Shaleh' Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The "every waking moment for Matt" release > > alpha7 has lots of small fixes for lots of things. > > Dock apps work better (even wmswallow) > > little pixel offset issues solved, no more overlaps > > s

Re: alpha7 released

2002-05-24 Thread Matt Wilson
On Sat, 2002-05-25 at 18:51, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: > > > > Only thing I've spotted so far is that windows are still getting placed > > underneath the toolbar (although, and I may be wrong about this, it > > seems to be only transients - dialogs, progress windows and the like.) > > > > any

Re: alpha7 released

2002-05-24 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
> > Only thing I've spotted so far is that windows are still getting placed > underneath the toolbar (although, and I may be wrong about this, it > seems to be only transients - dialogs, progress windows and the like.) > any examples I can recreate here?

Re: Resize / Move dialog box thingy

2002-05-24 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 24-May-2002 Scott Furt wrote: > When i resize/move windows now, the little box that > shows X: ... Y: ... looks like it inheirits the background > image from my desktop, which is unfortunate, becuase > black text on a dark background is near impossible to read. cvs now uses window.label.focus

Re: alpha7 released

2002-05-24 Thread Matt Wilson
On Sat, 2002-05-25 at 04:38, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: > The "every waking moment for Matt" release Woohoo!! :) Only thing I've spotted so far is that windows are still getting placed underneath the toolbar (although, and I may be wrong about this, it seems to be only transients - dialogs, prog

Re: Resize / Move dialog box thingy

2002-05-24 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 25-May-2002 xOr wrote: > On Fri, May 24, 2002 at 05:25:45PM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: >> On 24-May-2002 Scott Furt wrote: >> > When i resize/move windows now, the little box that >> > shows X: ... Y: ... looks like it inheirits the background >> > image from my desktop, which is unfortu

Alpha 7 bug _ gTop

2002-05-24 Thread Neverness
I don't know whether this has been in other releases, because I only used the Gnome System Monitor after installing the alpha7 release. The first issue I had was moving a file between two Rox-FIler windows, and the "Move" dialog box left a border and titlebar artifact. btw: this has not repeated.

Re: Resize / Move dialog box thingy

2002-05-24 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 25-May-2002 xOr wrote: > On Fri, May 24, 2002 at 05:25:45PM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: >> On 24-May-2002 Scott Furt wrote: >> > When i resize/move windows now, the little box that >> > shows X: ... Y: ... looks like it inheirits the background >> > image from my desktop, which is unfortu

Re: Resize / Move dialog box thingy

2002-05-24 Thread xOr
On Fri, May 24, 2002 at 05:25:45PM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: > On 24-May-2002 Scott Furt wrote: > > When i resize/move windows now, the little box that > > shows X: ... Y: ... looks like it inheirits the background > > image from my desktop, which is unfortunate, becuase > > black text on

Re: Resize / Move dialog box thingy

2002-05-24 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 24-May-2002 Scott Furt wrote: > When i resize/move windows now, the little box that > shows X: ... Y: ... looks like it inheirits the background > image from my desktop, which is unfortunate, becuase > black text on a dark background is near impossible to read. it actually reads 'window.label.

Re: The XMMS snapping prob?

2002-05-24 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 24-May-2002 Scott Furt wrote: > I was playing around with snapping today (I'm running CVS > from 05/23), and noticed that windows will snap to the "edge" > of the slit, even if the window is nowhere near the slit. > > This might be somewhat related to the XMMS-snapping problem > that was repor

Resize / Move dialog box thingy

2002-05-24 Thread Scott Furt
When i resize/move windows now, the little box that shows X: ... Y: ... looks like it inheirits the background image from my desktop, which is unfortunate, becuase black text on a dark background is near impossible to read.

Re: Even more OT: GUI Unzipper program

2002-05-24 Thread Scott Furt
Another good GUI unzip/zip tool is the ROX Archive tool. It's an icon on the desktop, and you drag files or archive onto it and it tgz/un-tgz things. http://rox.sf.net/archive.php3 Jeremy C. Reed wrote: > I am using cxunzip (a GNOME unzip tool); if I kill it or properly exit it, > it closes fin

The XMMS snapping prob?

2002-05-24 Thread Scott Furt
I was playing around with snapping today (I'm running CVS from 05/23), and noticed that windows will snap to the "edge" of the slit, even if the window is nowhere near the slit. This might be somewhat related to the XMMS-snapping problem that was reported a while back. Screenshot: http://furt.co

Re: More NEdit oddities

2002-05-24 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 24-May-2002 Wilbert Berendsen wrote: > Hi all, > > With a fresh (today, approx. 23.00 CET) CVS, more NEdit oddities: > > Not consistent, but: > - Open NEdit (I did from ROX 1.3) > - Change something > - Click close button, a dialog Save Y/N pops up > - Choose No > - NEdit closes but a fanthom

More NEdit oddities

2002-05-24 Thread Wilbert Berendsen
Hi all, With a fresh (today, approx. 23.00 CET) CVS, more NEdit oddities: Not consistent, but: - Open NEdit (I did from ROX 1.3) - Change something - Click close button, a dialog Save Y/N pops up - Choose No - NEdit closes but a fanthom BlackboxWindow remains on the screen (with not updated NEdi

Re: alpha7 released

2002-05-24 Thread Wilbert Berendsen
Hoi Jamin, Op Fri, 24 May 2002 13:21:30 -0500 schreef "Jamin W. Collins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Fri, 24 May 2002 09:38:08 -0700 (PDT) > "Sean 'Shaleh' Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > As before, please help us test it is time for a beta series! > > Got an oddity for you. I normally

Re: bug 559604

2002-05-24 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
>> > > And to confirm (though I guess its old news by now) that I'm seeing this > problem with alpha5 and 1.0.6 and mandrake 8.2 > > Time to download the new one and I might even try to have time to review > code.. > we are very curious if you can reproduce it with alpha7.

Re: bug 559604

2002-05-24 Thread Robert
On Fri, 24 May 2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Thursday 23 May 2002 16:51, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: >> A user has reported that nautilus 1.0.6 that came with Mandrake will not >> focus under the current alpha series. >> >> Can anyone verify this? > I have Mandrake 8.1 and it's nautilus 1.0.

Re: Bug: Switch to Fullscreen and lose your VNC window

2002-05-24 Thread Arjen Hommersom
Martin Rowe wrote: >On Friday 24 May 2002 9:23 pm, xOr wrote: > >>On Fri, May 24, 2002 at 10:00:38PM +0200, Arjen Hommersom wrote: >> [fullscreen vnc does not work] >>>The same happens with mplayer on fullscreen. Maybe usefull for >>>debugging.. >>> >>That bug *is* new to cvs then. I've

Re: OT: XUnmapWindow causing GNOME Application crash

2002-05-24 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 24-May-2002 Jeremy C. Reed wrote: > I am using cxunzip (a GNOME unzip tool); if I kill it or properly exit it, > it closes fine. > > But if I click the blackbox close button "X", I receive a GNOME > Application crash: > > crashed due to fatal error. > (Segmentation fault) > > I think bla

Re: Bug: Switch to Fullscreen and lose your VNC window

2002-05-24 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
> One oddity that made itself obvious after a Windowmanagers...Restart was > the way windows are maximised. I have the toolbar at the bottom middle > and the slit on the bottom right. Usually I only have bbkeys docked > there, with the mini icon. That stands slightly taller than the toolbar >

OT: XUnmapWindow causing GNOME Application crash

2002-05-24 Thread Jeremy C. Reed
I am using cxunzip (a GNOME unzip tool); if I kill it or properly exit it, it closes fine. But if I click the blackbox close button "X", I receive a GNOME Application crash: crashed due to fatal error. (Segmentation fault) I think blackbox does a XUnmapWindow(3X11) when the close button is

Re: Bug: Switch to Fullscreen and lose your VNC window

2002-05-24 Thread Martin Rowe
On Friday 24 May 2002 9:23 pm, xOr wrote: > On Fri, May 24, 2002 at 10:00:38PM +0200, Arjen Hommersom wrote: > > >[fullscreen vnc does not work] > > > > The same happens with mplayer on fullscreen. Maybe usefull for > > debugging.. > > That bug *is* new to cvs then. I've done this with mplayer for

Re: Bug: Switch to Fullscreen and lose your VNC window

2002-05-24 Thread Martin Rowe
On Friday 24 May 2002 9:05 pm, Jamin W.Collins wrote: > On Fri, 24 May 2002 22:00:38 +0200 > > "Arjen Hommersom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >[fullscreen vnc does not work] > > > > The same happens with mplayer on fullscreen. Maybe usefull for > > debugging.. > > Just to clarify, the problem on

Re: Bug: Switch to Fullscreen and lose your VNC window

2002-05-24 Thread Arjen Hommersom
Jamin W. Collins wrote: >On Fri, 24 May 2002 22:00:38 +0200 >"Arjen Hommersom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>>[fullscreen vnc does not work] >>> >>The same happens with mplayer on fullscreen. Maybe usefull for >>debugging.. >> > >Just to clarify, the problem only occurs when switching from windo

Re: Bug: Switch to Fullscreen and lose your VNC window

2002-05-24 Thread xOr
On Fri, May 24, 2002 at 10:00:38PM +0200, Arjen Hommersom wrote: > > > > > >[fullscreen vnc does not work] > > > The same happens with mplayer on fullscreen. Maybe usefull for debugging.. That bug *is* new to cvs then. I've done this with mplayer for ages. (switching to fullscreen and running it

Re: Bug: Switch to Fullscreen and lose your VNC window

2002-05-24 Thread Jamin W . Collins
On Fri, 24 May 2002 22:00:38 +0200 "Arjen Hommersom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >[fullscreen vnc does not work] > > > The same happens with mplayer on fullscreen. Maybe usefull for > debugging.. Just to clarify, the problem only occurs when switching from windowed view to fullscreen view. If

Re: Bug: Switch to Fullscreen and lose your VNC window

2002-05-24 Thread Arjen Hommersom
> > >[fullscreen vnc does not work] > The same happens with mplayer on fullscreen. Maybe usefull for debugging.. Arjen Hommersom

Re: CVS Problem

2002-05-24 Thread Art Haas
On Fri, May 24, 2002 at 09:05:22PM +0200, Per-Arne Holtmon Ak? wrote: > Hello guys. > > Thought I'd just drop a note about this. I updated my local CVS of > blackbox right now (Fri May 24 21:00:15 CEST 2002), and it refuses to > compile. I am running a FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT snapshot from 21st of Ma

Re: Bug: Switch to Fullscreen and lose your VNC window

2002-05-24 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 24-May-2002 Jamin W. Collins wrote: > On Fri, 24 May 2002 12:08:31 -0700 (PDT) > "Sean 'Shaleh' Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> hmm, no vnc to play with, makes this a tough one to debug. > > Couple of options. I could provide a system to VNC into, or it is also > possible to VNC into

Re: CVS Problem

2002-05-24 Thread Per-Arne Holtmon Akø
On Fri, May 24, 2002 at 12:11:40 +, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: > On 24-May-2002 Per-Arne Holtmon Akø wrote: > > Hello guys. > > > > Thought I'd just drop a note about this. I updated my local CVS of > > blackbox right now (Fri May 24 21:00:15 CEST 2002), and it refuses to > > compile. I am ru

Re: Bug: Switch to Fullscreen and lose your VNC window

2002-05-24 Thread Jamin W . Collins
On Fri, 24 May 2002 12:08:31 -0700 (PDT) "Sean 'Shaleh' Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hmm, no vnc to play with, makes this a tough one to debug. Couple of options. I could provide a system to VNC into, or it is also possible to VNC into the same system. Or if I had an idea what to look f

Re: CVS Problem

2002-05-24 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 24-May-2002 Per-Arne Holtmon Akø wrote: > Hello guys. > > Thought I'd just drop a note about this. I updated my local CVS of > blackbox right now (Fri May 24 21:00:15 CEST 2002), and it refuses to > compile. I am running a FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT snapshot from 21st of May, > 12:00:00, so that migh

Re: Bug: Switch to Fullscreen and lose your VNC window

2002-05-24 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 24-May-2002 Jamin W. Collins wrote: > This problem isn't new to the CVS version, I just > remembered that it happens. > > If you open a normal windowed VNC connection, and then > try to switch to fullscreen view, the VNC view will > disappear. The application is still running. However > the di

CVS Problem

2002-05-24 Thread Per-Arne Holtmon Akø
Hello guys. Thought I'd just drop a note about this. I updated my local CVS of blackbox right now (Fri May 24 21:00:15 CEST 2002), and it refuses to compile. I am running a FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT snapshot from 21st of May, 12:00:00, so that might be the cause. Anyway, the failed build session is att

Bug: Switch to Fullscreen and lose your VNC window

2002-05-24 Thread Jamin W . Collins
This problem isn't new to the CVS version, I just remembered that it happens. If you open a normal windowed VNC connection, and then try to switch to fullscreen view, the VNC view will disappear. The application is still running. However the display window is nowhere to be found. To replicate: -

Re: alpha7 released

2002-05-24 Thread Jamin W . Collins
On Fri, 24 May 2002 11:33:45 -0700 (PDT) "Sean 'Shaleh' Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Brad added new code for group window handling and transients. It is > possible nedit hits a rough spot in this code. > > If you could come up with a guaranteed way to recreate it and post a bug > that wo

Re: alpha7 released

2002-05-24 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 24-May-2002 Jamin W. Collins wrote: > On Fri, 24 May 2002 09:38:08 -0700 (PDT) > "Sean 'Shaleh' Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> As before, please help us test it is time for a beta series! > > Got an oddity for you. I normally use Nedit for my GUI text editing > purposes. After my la

Re: alpha7 released

2002-05-24 Thread Jamin W . Collins
On Fri, 24 May 2002 09:38:08 -0700 (PDT) "Sean 'Shaleh' Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As before, please help us test it is time for a beta series! Got an oddity for you. I normally use Nedit for my GUI text editing purposes. After my last update from CVS, I noticed some strange behaviour

Re: alpha7 released

2002-05-24 Thread Jamin W . Collins
On Fri, 24 May 2002 09:38:08 -0700 (PDT) "Sean 'Shaleh' Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The "every waking moment for Matt" release > > alpha7 has lots of small fixes for lots of things. (snip) > As before, please help us test it is time for a beta series! You are going to spoil us! Just

alpha7 released

2002-05-24 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
The "every waking moment for Matt" release alpha7 has lots of small fixes for lots of things. Dock apps work better (even wmswallow) little pixel offset issues solved, no more overlaps some optimizations added and excessive redraws cleaned up better window group support better dock app suppor

Re: bug 559604

2002-05-24 Thread Bradley T Hughes
On Friday 24 May 2002 16:48, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: > > If that can help, I ran nautilus (something that my poor machine can > > barely afford !) and I noticed that indeed the main window refuses to > > be focused. > > thanks Bertrand this really helps. It does clearly state that it does > no

Re: bug 559604

2002-05-24 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
> If that can help, I ran nautilus (something that my poor machine can barely > afford !) and I noticed that indeed the main window refuses to be focused. > thanks Bertrand this really helps. It does clearly state that it does not want focus. Will look into this a little further, this sound l

Re: bblaunch (WAS: Re: No title bar, minimal border)

2002-05-24 Thread John L. Clark
On Fri, May 24, 2002 at 01:26:39PM +0200, Martin Egholm Nielsen wrote: > Hi, > > >>Ok, I've looked and looked, bblaunch is no where to be > >>found! :-( > >>Can anybody hand me a link? > >After poking about a bit I found this: > >ftp://ftp.hu.debian.org/debian/pool/main/b/bblaunch/ > > > >They w

bblaunch (WAS: Re: No title bar, minimal border)

2002-05-24 Thread Martin Egholm Nielsen
Hi, >>Ok, I've looked and looked, bblaunch is no where to be >>found! :-( >>Can anybody hand me a link? > After poking about a bit I found this: > ftp://ftp.hu.debian.org/debian/pool/main/b/bblaunch/ > > They worked for me. Gimme a holler if they don't, I can put them up some > other place. Wel

Re: No title bar, minimal border

2002-05-24 Thread Sascha Huedepohl
Hi, * Martin Egholm Nielsen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Hi, > > >>And you can't shade windows that have no decor. > >i'm not so shure if i understand right. > I don't think you understand - the shading Matt refers to is > the BB shading yes i understand now ;) > Btw.: Cool wallpaper, can you

Re: No title bar, minimal border

2002-05-24 Thread Martin Egholm Nielsen
Hi, >>And you can't shade windows that have no decor. > i'm not so shure if i understand right. > Take a look at this: > http://hermes.rz.hs-bremen.de/~renegat/screen001.png (499k) > http://hermes.rz.hs-bremen.de/~renegat/screen001.jpg (143k) I don't think you understand - the shading Matt refe

Re: bug 559604

2002-05-24 Thread Bertrand Duret
On Friday 24 May 2002 12:05, Bertrand Duret wrote: > On Thursday 23 May 2002 16:51, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: > > A user has reported that nautilus 1.0.6 that came with Mandrake will not > > focus under the current alpha series. > > > > Can anyone verify this? > > I have Mandrake 8.1 and it's nau

Re: bug 559604

2002-05-24 Thread Bertrand Duret
On Thursday 23 May 2002 16:51, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: > A user has reported that nautilus 1.0.6 that came with Mandrake will not > focus under the current alpha series. > > Can anyone verify this? I have Mandrake 8.1 and it's nautilus 1.0.4 which is provided. I suppose that nautilus 1.0.6 com

Re: No title bar, minimal border

2002-05-24 Thread Per-Arne Holtmon Akø
On Fri, May 24, 2002 at 09:31:30 +, Martin Egholm Nielsen wrote: > >>>use bblaunch with the -d option: > >>>$ bblaunch -d none aterm -tr +sb etc. > >>>not sure where you'd find bblaunch if you don't have it, but I think > >>>it's floating round somewhere... > >>there is also bbappconf >

Re: No title bar, minimal border

2002-05-24 Thread Sascha Huedepohl
Hi, * Matt Wilson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > And you can't shade windows that have no decor. > i'm not so shure if i understand right. Take a look at this: http://hermes.rz.hs-bremen.de/~renegat/screen001.png (499k) http://hermes.rz.hs-bremen.de/~renegat/screen001.jpg (143k) regards sas

Re: No title bar, minimal border

2002-05-24 Thread Mr . X
On Fri, 2002-05-24 at 13:15, John L. Clark wrote: > Ok, I was browsing through the blackbox screenshots when I stumbled > across the ones posted by Derek Cunningham > http://www2.skynet.ca/~mindhaze/screenshots/>. It prompted me to > give aterm a shot, and lo-and-behold, it's a pretty terminal.

Re: Toolbar/window placement

2002-05-24 Thread Matt Wilson
On Fri, 2002-05-24 at 19:04, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: > so all seems well. I cranked the border width up to 7 and played around for a > while. Confirmed, all is well. You are truly a legend, in fact you can have the rest of the day off if you want ;). > P.S. your style is not half bad. Thank

Re: alpha6

2002-05-24 Thread Glyn Millington
Derek Cunningham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Sean, > > Since you're the package maintainer for blackbox, you should make life easy > for lazy debian users (and users that don't want to compile things) by > having a blackbox-alpha package. It'd be real nice to just apt-get update ; > apt-get

Re: No title bar, minimal border

2002-05-24 Thread Martin Egholm Nielsen
Hi there, >>>use bblaunch with the -d option: >>>$ bblaunch -d none aterm -tr +sb etc. >>>not sure where you'd find bblaunch if you don't have it, but I think >>>it's floating round somewhere... >>there is also bbappconf > I use a combination of bbappconf, and bblaunch. I find bbappconf a

Re: No title bar, minimal border

2002-05-24 Thread Derek Cunningham
On Thu, May23,02 19:36, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: > > > > use bblaunch with the -d option: > > > > $ bblaunch -d none aterm -tr +sb etc. > > > > not sure where you'd find bblaunch if you don't have it, but I think > > it's floating round somewhere... > > > > Matt > > there is also bbappcon