On Fri, 9 Nov 2001, Jeremy C. Reed wrote:
Does anyone use blackbox without keygrab support? Let's count :)
I do.
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On Sat, 10 Nov 2001, jerrold poh wrote:
Just curios, how do you guys alt tab? How do you change desktops, or do
guys just use the mouse?
Mouse.
Personally, I hate taking my hands off the keyboard, and every app that
I use is bounded to a key, so I don't have to use that silly menu to
On Sat, 10 Nov 2001 15:04:54 +1300
jerrold poh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| Does anyone use blackbox without keygrab support? Let's count :)
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| I don't use keygrab. Not sure what I'm missing. Everything works fine.
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|Just curios, how do you guys alt tab? How do you change desktops, or do
Jason vanRijn Kasper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If somebody wiser than I about the black arts of copyright issues
can advise me on whether or not it's possible/legal/beneficial to replace
the GPL-2 viral license in bbkeys with something more friendly to the
world, so be it.
Possible/legal:
On 2001.11.09 12:44 Scott Moynes wrote:
Blackbox used to include keyboard binding support, but it was pretty
poor and would be more maintainable in a separate app. So, in short,
fluxbox is the devolution of blackbox.
This I completely agree with. Not to mention the fact that bbkeys is
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* Richard B Mahoney ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
At best, this is poor logic. First, you appear to assume that the
removal of key binding functions from a window manager is
`development.' This is not necessarily so. Second, you also appear to
assume that Fluxbox has poor key
On Fri, 9 Nov 2001, Scott Moynes wrote:
When one compares the number of updates and changes to bbkeys and
compares it to the number of updates and changes to blackbox in the
last several months, one can see why it was a wise decision to remove
Nothing wrong with providing several updates to
Jeremy C. Reed wrote:
Using lots of simple tools (versus bloatware) is not always the best, most
stable, or easiest way.
There have been a few people that have claimed this. However, I've yet
to see any sound examples where the simple tools combined together for a
task were not better at it
Jamin W. Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jeremy C. Reed wrote:
Using lots of simple tools (versus bloatware) is not always the best, most
stable, or easiest way.
There have been a few people that have claimed this. However, I've yet
to see any sound examples where the simple tools
* Jeremy C. Reed ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Nothing wrong with providing several updates to blackbox. One way or
another you choose to download and rebuild something.
Not if you don't use bbkeys.
Tell us about this thievery. I haven't looked at the fluxbox source --
does it give credit
On Fri, 9 Nov 2001, Jamin W. Collins wrote:
Jeremy C. Reed wrote:
Using lots of simple tools (versus bloatware) is not always the best, most
stable, or easiest way.
There have been a few people that have claimed this. However, I've yet
to see any sound examples where the simple tools
* Jan Schaumann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
standard-counter-example for=unix-way-argument
Emacs.
/standard-counter-example
I don't think emacs violates this. It includes a whole bunch of lisp
source files, that can be removed, and provide a bunch of small
functions that can be chained
On Fri, 9 Nov 2001, Scott Moynes wrote:
* Jeremy C. Reed ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Nothing wrong with providing several updates to blackbox. One way or
another you choose to download and rebuild something.
Not if you don't use bbkeys.
True.
Does anyone use blackbox without keygrab
On Fri, 9 Nov 2001, Craig Thrall wrote:
On that note, I see that bbkeys is viral GPL'd and our great
blackbox is using the noble BSD-style license. As it is, bbkeys can not
(should not) go back into blackbox. (Which is sad -- because I like bbkeys
functionality, but I prefer it to be
On Friday 09 November 2001 18:43, Jeremy C. Reed wrote:
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Does anyone use blackbox without keygrab support? Let's count :)
I don't use keygrab. Not sure what I'm missing. Everything works fine.
Gino
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Jeremy C. Reed wrote:
Public domain is great!!! I am glad you chose public domain; be sure
your code says public domain.
GPL is NOT public domain. Spend some time reading about GPL, public
domain, BSD licensing.
http://www.bsdnewsletter.com/bsd/license.html and search via google.
So, you
* Aaron J. Seigo ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
some clarification regarding konqi: it isn't a monolithic bloatware app.
konqi is a (very small) framework app wherein _every_ _single_ piece is a
loaded part that does one thing, does it well (hopefully =), and
interoperates with every other part
Jamin W. Collins wrote:
So, you claim because enhancements/changes/derived works have to be
given back to the public, the GPL is not Public Domain? Not following
you here.
Oops, I'll check myself before someone else does (hopefully). It would
seem that Mr. Reed is correct. The term
On Fri, 9 Nov 2001, Jamin W. Collins wrote:
Public domain is great!!! I am glad you chose public domain; be sure
your code says public domain.
GPL is NOT public domain. Spend some time reading about GPL, public
domain, BSD licensing.
http://www.bsdnewsletter.com/bsd/license.html and
On Fri, 9 Nov 2001, Jamin W. Collins wrote:
quote
Public domain software is software that is not copyrighted. It is a
special case of non-copylefted free software
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/categories.html#Non-CopyleftedFreeSoftware,
which means that some copies or modified versions
I have heard this. But I have not seen it. Everytime I have installed
konqueror, I (believe I) was required to also install a large amount of
other QT and KDE libraries and components.
kinda like how you need to install a kernel and glibc and a shell and all
that other trash just to be able
Does anyone use blackbox without keygrab support? Let's count :)
I don't use keygrab. Not sure what I'm missing. Everything works fine.
Just curios, how do you guys alt tab? How do you change desktops, or do
guys just use the mouse?
Personally, I hate taking my hands off the keyboard, and
On Fri, 9 Nov 2001, Jeremy C. Reed wrote:
I look forward to using a non-bloated konqueror. Feel free to point me
to some docs that show how I can quickly install and use it without
the QT and KDE baggage. (I guess this is similar to the projects that
use the mozilla base.)
[Off topic, I
hi..
tongue.in(cheek);
So then just about any modern object-oriented or component based
application should also be in the UNIX way. Everything from our dear
blackbox all the way past konqi and mozilla through to Microsoft
Office. :D
not at all...
konqueror is just a GUI within which all
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On Fri, 9 Nov 2001, Scott Moynes wrote:
* Aaron J. Seigo ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
some clarification regarding konqi: it isn't a monolithic bloatware app.
konqi is a (very small) framework app wherein _every_ _single_ piece is a
loaded part
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On Sat, 10 Nov 2001, Alex Buell wrote:
On Fri, 9 Nov 2001, Jeremy C. Reed wrote:
I look forward to using a non-bloated konqueror. Feel free to point me
to some docs that show how I can quickly install and use it without
the QT and KDE
standard-counter-example for=unix-way-argument
Emacs.
/standard-counter-example
isn't unix a program that runs on emacs?
aloha,
dave
What version of bb?
Fran
:):):)
On Sat, 10 Nov 2001 15:48, you wrote:
On Sat, Nov 10, 2001 at 03:04:54PM +1300, jerrold poh wrote:
Does anyone use blackbox without keygrab support? Let's count :)
I don't use keygrab. Not sure what I'm missing. Everything works
fine.
Just
Dear Fran,
On Sat, Nov 10, 2001 at 06:19:29PM +1300, Fran wrote:
What version of bb?
Fran
:):):)
Just curios, how do you guys alt tab? How do you change desktops, or
do guys just use the mouse?
[snip]
For the curious 8-)
Ctl + Alt + right arrow/left arrow
or
Ctl +
Emacs is the OS, Linux is the device driver.
Fran
:):):)
On Sat, 10 Nov 2001 16:58, you wrote:
standard-counter-example for=unix-way-argument
Emacs.
/standard-counter-example
isn't unix a program that runs on emacs?
aloha,
dave
Ahhh.
So you're not using bb _without_ bbkeys.
Fran
:):):)
On Sat, 10 Nov 2001 19:48, Richard B Mahoney wrote:
Dear Fran,
On Sat, Nov 10, 2001 at 06:19:29PM +1300, Fran wrote:
What version of bb?
Fran
:):):)
:
Just curios, how do you guys alt tab? How do you change desktops,
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