Re: [blfs-dev] [blfs-book] [BLFS Trac] #3521: GMime-2.6.10

2012-08-20 Thread Bruce Dubbs
BLFS Trac wrote: #3521: GMime-2.6.10 +--- Reporter: randy@… | Owner: blfs-book@… Type: enhancement | Status: new Priority: normal |

Re: [blfs-dev] [blfs-book] [BLFS Trac] #3521: GMime-2.6.10

2012-08-20 Thread Armin K.
On 08/20/2012 10:56 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Comment(by Krejzi): In GNOME 3.4, not all packages were able to use gmime-2.6, so I decided to keep 2.4. I'll upgrade it when I upgrade GNOME. Also, I must ask you not to report for anything that is related from GNOME. I will handle all of

Re: [blfs-dev] [lfs-book] [LFS Trac] #3162: Glibc 2.16.0 Suggestions

2012-08-20 Thread Randy McMurchy
LFS Trac wrote these words on 08/20/12 15:37 CST: Comment(by Krejzi): I just want to say that I personaly won't make use of /usr/libexec anywhere where I make the changes untill it is official. I was even thinking about reverting that for Postfix and vte-0.28 untill it's official.

Re: [blfs-dev] [blfs-book] [BLFS Trac] #3521: GMime-2.6.10

2012-08-20 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 03:56:34PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: BLFS Trac wrote: #3521: GMime-2.6.10 +--- Reporter: randy@… | Owner: blfs-book@… Type: enhancement |

[blfs-dev] GNOME Support Libs (was: [BLFS Trac] #3521)

2012-08-20 Thread Randy McMurchy
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 08/20/12 15:56 CST: Sounds like a good plan overall, but for me I don't know which libraries go with Gnome. For instance pango and gtk+ are in the section labelled X libraries. I know these packages are also used outside of Gnome. Should there be a

Re: [blfs-dev] [blfs-book] [BLFS Trac] #3521: GMime-2.6.10

2012-08-20 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: Today (with the state of mailman) is perhaps not a good day to reply, I think it's fixed. This message had a timestamp (adjust to my time zone) of 16:13 and I got it about 16:18. Also, my client only checks once every 10 minutes. -- Bruce --

Re: [blfs-dev] GNOME Support Libs

2012-08-20 Thread Armin K.
On 08/20/2012 11:17 PM, Randy McMurchy wrote: Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 08/20/12 15:56 CST: Sounds like a good plan overall, but for me I don't know which libraries go with Gnome. For instance pango and gtk+ are in the section labelled X libraries. I know these packages are also used

Re: [blfs-dev] [blfs-book] [BLFS Trac] #3521: GMime-2.6.10

2012-08-20 Thread Matt Burgess
On Mon, 2012-08-20 at 16:21 -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Ken Moffat wrote: Today (with the state of mailman) is perhaps not a good day to reply, I think it's fixed. This message had a timestamp (adjust to my time zone) of 16:13 and I got it about 16:18. Also, my client only checks

[blfs-dev] GNOME Support Libs #2 (was: [BLFS Trac] #3521)

2012-08-20 Thread Randy McMurchy
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 08/20/12 15:56 CST: Should there be a separate section, something like Gnome General Purpose Libraries? But it seems to me that some folks would be confused with a GNOME General Purpose Lib section if they are only building AbiWord, for example. The GTK+

Re: [blfs-dev] GNOME Support Libs

2012-08-20 Thread Randy McMurchy
Armin K. wrote these words on 08/20/12 16:21 CST: Yes, I almost agree, but GNOME itself makes point releases, so it is easier for person that upgrades from lets say 3.4.0 to 3.4.1 to upgrade everything. The exception would be the fixes after official releases - 3.4.1 was last official

Re: [blfs-dev] GNOME Support Libs

2012-08-20 Thread Armin K.
On 08/20/2012 11:52 PM, Randy McMurchy wrote: Armin K. wrote these words on 08/20/12 16:21 CST: Yes, I almost agree, but GNOME itself makes point releases, so it is easier for person that upgrades from lets say 3.4.0 to 3.4.1 to upgrade everything. The exception would be the fixes after

[blfs-dev] mysql vs mariadb

2012-08-20 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Oracle is not playing nice. http://blog.mariadb.org/disappearing-test-cases/ What do you think about dropping mysql and replacing with mariadb? -- Bruce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above

Re: [blfs-dev] mysql vs mariadb

2012-08-20 Thread Randy McMurchy
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 08/20/12 17:18 CST: Oracle is not playing nice. http://blog.mariadb.org/disappearing-test-cases/ What do you think about dropping mysql and replacing with mariadb? I am not really qualified to comment. I read the blog post and agree that it sounds as if

Re: [blfs-dev] mysql vs mariadb

2012-08-20 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Randy McMurchy wrote: Bruce, which do you use now? I know you have supported apps that use MySQL, do you still? Have you used MariaDB in a production environment? I used to do a fair amount with mysql, but haven't really done anything with it for a year. I've not built MariaDB, so I don't

Re: [blfs-dev] mysql vs mariadb

2012-08-20 Thread Armin K.
On 08/21/2012 12:18 AM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Oracle is not playing nice. http://blog.mariadb.org/disappearing-test-cases/ What do you think about dropping mysql and replacing with mariadb? -- Bruce I am also not qualified, but as Randy pointed out MariaDB is an alternative, not a

Re: [blfs-dev] mysql vs mariadb

2012-08-20 Thread Randy McMurchy
Armin K. wrote these words on 08/20/12 17:46 CST: I am also not qualified, but as Randy pointed out MariaDB is an alternative, not a replacement for MySQL., so it is not the same. snip Short story: Give it some more time. Great analysis, and I agree with you. -- Randy rmlscsi: [bogomips

[blfs-dev] Xorg Chapter

2012-08-20 Thread Armin K.
Hey guys, as you may know dj made big upgrade by removing the wget files and provided instructions to make ones in order to simplify upgrades. He also included loops as default there with an option to choose a method how to install package by introducing AS_ROOT var. There is, however, one

[blfs-dev] I Have a Question (was: Re: Introduction)

2012-08-20 Thread Randy McMurchy
Randy McMurchy wrote these words on 08/20/12 12:48 CST: I am going to build a current SVN LFS and use that as my base system for development of BLFS, unless y'all think it would be better to use the last stable LFS. Please let me know. Perhaps my question got lost in my introduction. But I

Re: [blfs-dev] I Have a Question

2012-08-20 Thread Armin K.
On 08/21/2012 01:31 AM, Randy McMurchy wrote: Randy McMurchy wrote these words on 08/20/12 12:48 CST: I am going to build a current SVN LFS and use that as my base system for development of BLFS, unless y'all think it would be better to use the last stable LFS. Please let me know. Perhaps my

Re: [blfs-dev] I Have a Question

2012-08-20 Thread Armin K.
On 08/21/2012 01:31 AM, Randy McMurchy wrote: Randy McMurchy wrote these words on 08/20/12 12:48 CST: I am going to build a current SVN LFS and use that as my base system for development of BLFS, unless y'all think it would be better to use the last stable LFS. Please let me know. Perhaps my

Re: [blfs-dev] I Have a Question

2012-08-20 Thread Randy McMurchy
Armin K. wrote these words on 08/20/12 18:36 CST: Speaking of lost, both of your introduction mails - one to blfs-dev, other to lfs-dev landed in my Spam folder. Same for the reply to mariadb. Everything arrived at inbox tough. I am not sure why those 3 landed in Spam folder. Probably

Re: [blfs-dev] I Have a Question

2012-08-20 Thread Randy McMurchy
Randy McMurchy wrote these words on 08/20/12 18:41 CST: Probably because I used two different email clients today. One on Windows (current Thunderbird), and one from an old, old, old LFS build using again a very old Thunderbird client. I do not know if my SMTP setup is the same on the two

Re: [blfs-dev] mysql vs mariadb

2012-08-20 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Armin K. wrote: On 08/21/2012 12:18 AM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Oracle is not playing nice. http://blog.mariadb.org/disappearing-test-cases/ What do you think about dropping mysql and replacing with mariadb? -- Bruce I am also not qualified, but as Randy pointed out MariaDB is an

Re: [blfs-dev] Xorg Chapter

2012-08-20 Thread Fernando de Oliveira
Em 20-08-2012 20:28, Armin K. escreveu: ... I would also like to add here a note about LLVM dep and MesaLib itself. LLVM may not be heavy dep for MesaLib, but it is dependency by default unless different instructions are used (I set it to recommended because there were complaints). LLVM