Re: [blfs-dev] Xorg Applications

2012-07-12 Thread Guy Dalziel
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 06:18:38PM -0400, Baho Utot wrote: On 07/11/2012 01:54 AM, Guy Dalziel wrote: [putolin] Can anyone recall why we don't build as root in the first place? That's a good way to trash your system. As discussed before, I'm well aware of that; I was looking

Re: [blfs-dev] Xorg Applications

2012-07-11 Thread Guy Dalziel
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 10:32:43AM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Guy Dalziel wrote: Can anyone recall why we don't build as root in the first place? As far as my memory serves me, it's to do with how the permissions are set during compiling. It's for general protection against typos

Re: [blfs-dev] Xorg Applications

2012-07-10 Thread Guy Dalziel
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 03:34:59AM +0100, Ken Moffat wrote: On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 04:51:42PM -0700, Fernando de Oliveira wrote: Thank you very much, Armin. I think sudo would only ask for the PW once, given the time it takes for each pass through the loop. I myself do these

Hey

2011-06-11 Thread Guy Dalziel
Hey all, I don't know if my last message got through or not but I'm guessing that it didn't. For some reason all of my subscriptions are gone. I just wanted to let you know that I'm going to become more active in this project again as much as I can. I won't bore you with the details but I

Re: How can I contribute?

2010-07-31 Thread Guy Dalziel
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 07:33:01PM -0500, Randy McMurchy wrote: That should probably change now. I'm not sure any active developers are using 6.5. I am open to suggestions, but I feel BLFS may need to just simply target the LFS Development book. Anybody who could contribute some alternate

Re: smartmontools

2010-04-11 Thread Guy Dalziel
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 10:23:03AM +0200, Lars Bamberger wrote: after a hard-drive crash I was wondering if there would be any support to add smartmontools as a new package to BLFS. http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/smartmontools/wiki What purpose would this serve? As far as I can tell it's a

Re: Updated D-Bus and HAl

2010-03-13 Thread Guy Dalziel
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 02:06:45PM -0600, Randy McMurchy wrote: Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 03/12/10 13:02 CST: As a note, ps is now printing a uid instead of the name if the name is too long. Changing the names s/haldaemon/hald/ and s/messagebus/msgbus/ in /etc/passwd provides the

Re: KDE4

2010-03-10 Thread Guy Dalziel
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 03:19:49AM -0700, Matthew Burgess wrote: I guess this is the wrong forum to be ranting in about this though, and as others have pointed out, walking away from the behemoth that is KDE now is an option open to anyone, like me, who's had enough of the bloat. The trouble I

Re: TeX Live

2010-03-03 Thread Guy Dalziel
On Wed, Mar 03, 2010 at 11:38:29AM -0600, Randy McMurchy wrote: But, the current beta version of XZ Utils is like 0.999.99.9 and it is claimed on the web site that the 1.0 version will not have any changes from the current beta. It makes you wonder why they don't hurry up and release it. I

Re: gnome-doc-utils-0.18.0 and scrollkeeper

2009-11-02 Thread Guy Dalziel
On Mon, Nov 02, 2009 at 01:14:48PM -0500, Chris Staub wrote: On 11/02/2009 11:40 AM, Trent Shea wrote: It looks like you can install scrollkeeper or add --disable-scrollkeeper to the configure command to build the package. Or install Rarian, which I believe is the replacement for

Re: Dash fix

2009-11-02 Thread Guy Dalziel
On Mon, Nov 02, 2009 at 11:06:03PM +, William Immendorf wrote: Rember the thread I started on blfs-support about dash failing to compile? Well, Matthew has a fix Yes, he did. The problem was with sort because of a patch that LFS applies, and therefore the problem was passed over to LFS.

Re: Dash fix

2009-11-02 Thread Guy Dalziel
On Mon, Nov 02, 2009 at 11:15:25PM +, William Immendorf wrote: I know. Anyway, would you dash off a quick commit putting the patch in the patch repo and mentioning it in the dash page and saying that it works with LFS 6.5. A patch isn't necessary for such a simple fix. If you rewrite the

Re: Dash fix

2009-11-02 Thread Guy Dalziel
On Mon, Nov 02, 2009 at 11:23:37PM +, William Immendorf wrote: Does this work for you? sed -i 's/sort/LC_COLLATE=C /' src/mkbuiltins Almost, your syntax catches the other sort which already has LC_COLLATE=C prepended to it. To make sure we catch the one we want then we need to be a little

Re: Xorg-7.5 very soon

2009-10-30 Thread Guy Dalziel
On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 12:32:21AM -0500, DJ Lucas wrote: On 10/03/2009 03:28 AM, DJ Lucas wrote: Looks like Xorg-7.5 is *very* soon. Snip Just a quick update. According to the list put up earlier this month, it looks like all we are waiting on is xf86-input-joystick-1.5.0.

Re: Alternate Installation Prefixes [Was: Re: Gnome-2.28.0 build notes -- Compatability Symlinks]

2009-10-24 Thread Guy Dalziel
On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 10:52:36AM -0500, DJ Lucas wrote: I've hinted at this suggestion before, and mulled this over for a while now. I'm now suggesting that BLFS no longer support the alternate installation prefixes for X, Gnome, and KDE. The alternate prefixes can be supported by the

Re: Alternate Installation Prefixes [Was: Re: Gnome-2.28.0 build notes -- Compatability Symlinks]

2009-10-24 Thread Guy Dalziel
On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 05:01:11PM +0100, Guy Dalziel wrote: But if Gnome and KDE are a major hassle then let's make our lives easier and drop support for it. Personally I hate putting anything in /opt as I feel that the root system should remain fairly static. p.s., note that I said a major

Re: Alternate Installation Prefixes [Was: Re: Gnome-2.28.0 build notes -- Compatability Symlinks]

2009-10-24 Thread Guy Dalziel
On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 10:31:32PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: How hard is it for a developer to look for system configuration files in --sysconfdir? The answer is not hard. In fact, not using it is inconvenient for some users. One of the main philosophies of Unix is that the user knows

Re: Gnome-2.28.0 build notes

2009-10-19 Thread Guy Dalziel
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 08:09:20AM -0500, William Immendorf wrote: Look at what Fedora does: William, please stop telling us what everyone else does as if we have to comply with those same methods. You've already put forth the recommendation, now let us decide what we want to do.

Re: Gnome-2.28.0 build notes

2009-10-19 Thread Guy Dalziel
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 08:27:04AM -0500, William Immendorf wrote: What I was trying to point out is that Brasero can act as a replacement for Nautilus CD Burner, proving DJ wrong about that. I do not intend to make a debate out of this. But for the record, DJ did not make any kind of factual

GTK upgrade

2009-10-19 Thread Guy Dalziel
This is just a pre-warning that I'm going to be upgrading GTK to 2.18.3 to hopefully fix a JPEG issue. At the same time I'm going to upgrade Pango to 1.26.0 and ATK to 1.28.0, and these will probably be the last upgrades for GTK. pgp8qlHm1RanV.pgp Description: PGP signature --

Re: GTK upgrade

2009-10-19 Thread Guy Dalziel
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 03:21:11PM +0100, Guy Dalziel wrote: these will probably be the last upgrades for GTK. As far as I can tell the entire GTK testsuite passes with flying colours, so I'm quite happy with this version so far. The JPEG issue isn't fixed but it's simple enough to patch

Re: XZ-Utils 4.999.9beta

2009-09-29 Thread Guy Dalziel
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 02:41:01PM -0500, William Immendorf wrote: You don't see any reason? You need to look a lot closer: Keep this up and we won't put the damned thing in at all. pgpTnuQoZasE0.pgp Description: PGP signature -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ:

Re: XZ-Utils 4.999.9beta

2009-09-29 Thread Guy Dalziel
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 02:55:52PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: You don't see any reason? You need to look a lot closer: * Fedora, Arch, CLFS, and Slackware use it arleady, so +4 points to XZ. * This release is very close to a stable release, another +1 point to XZ. * The file format

Re: xorg/*7.4.{wget,md5} files

2009-09-21 Thread Guy Dalziel
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 03:29:10PM -, DJ Lucas wrote: I'm AFK for a bit again. DJ, if you're away for a while shall I add that chmod command to NSS that I mentioned not too long ago? pgpFbGhHlnBxO.pgp Description: PGP signature -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ:

Re: openldap-2.4.16, db-4.5.20 and gdbm-1.8.3

2009-09-20 Thread Guy Dalziel
On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 01:23:50PM -0500, William Immendorf wrote: What?!?!?!?! You still use the LFS 6.3 tools?!?!?! Get real. I would appreciate it if you don't insult our users. This is not the Debian list and I don't care what he has said or done, either maintain a professional attitude or

Re: openldap-2.4.16, db-4.5.20 and gdbm-1.8.3

2009-09-20 Thread Guy Dalziel
On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 10:21:26PM +0400, Sami Tarazi wrote: openldap-2.3.39 does not build and results in some errors with LFS 6.5. openldap-2.4.16 compiles successfully provided that: --diable-ndb CPPFLAGS=-D_GNU_SOURCE are passed to configure, with db-4.5.20 or gdbm-1.83. make

Re: cdrtools-2.01

2009-09-14 Thread Guy Dalziel
On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 09:18:28PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: I took a look at the package in a bit more detail. The glibc_conflicts patch is no longer needed, but an updated ascii patch will be needed. I don't know anything about the iconv patch, but I suspect it is needed too. The ascii

nss-3.12.4 incorrect permissions

2009-09-13 Thread Guy Dalziel
DJ, when I installed NSS and attempted to compile Firefox I was met with an error. It appears that the files copied over with the command `cp -v -RL {public,private}/nss/* /usr/include/nss' are not world readable. As they are owned by root:root then compilation as a normal user will fail.

cdrtools-2.01

2009-09-13 Thread Guy Dalziel
It seems that every time I compile cdrtools a new problem arises, once again the glibc patch seems to be failing to do the job. I grabbed the beta of cdrtools (2.01.01) from the site, and it compiled straight out of the box with no patches required. I propose that we upgrade cdrtools to the beta

Re: cdrtools-2.01

2009-09-13 Thread Guy Dalziel
On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 10:45:15PM +0100, Ken Moffat wrote: People still use the original cdrtools ? I've been using it for years, so it simply tends to be one of the first things that I grab. The license change itself is not a problem for us, because we don't distribute binaries, but I

nss-3.12.4

2009-09-12 Thread Guy Dalziel
The patch for NSS is nss-3.13.4-standalone-3.patch, but the instructions contain `patch -Np1 -i ../nss-3.12.4-standalone-2.patch'. pgpEKPZxj0cOF.pgp Description: PGP signature -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html

which-2.20 root ownership

2009-09-07 Thread Guy Dalziel
Under Which-2.20 we have the option to create a script that gives us the same functionality as the program. At the end of these commands we have `chown -v root:root /usr/bin/which', but since we have to be root to create the script to begin with then this is redundant. pgpi1ZeqFnRG2.pgp

Re: lesstif

2009-08-30 Thread Guy Dalziel
On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 02:14:16PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -I../../../include/Motif-2.1 -I../../../include/Motif-2.1 -I../../../include/Motif-1.2 -I../../../include/Motif-1.2 -g -I/usr/include -c test28.c In file included from

Re: lesstif

2009-08-30 Thread Guy Dalziel
On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 02:57:01PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: I believe that Print.h comes with printproto. Where do we install that? It's not in proto-7.4.md5. It's available from http://xorg.freedesktop.org/releases/individual/proto/, I must have grabbed it and forgot to make a note of it.

Re: Xorg Libraries

2009-08-30 Thread Guy Dalziel
On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 12:36:47PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: I don't understand why the xorg/*7.4.{wget,md4} are updated. If the contents have changed, shouldn't the file name be updated. Is this a 'stealth' upgrade? I don't think a user should have to guess. At a minimum, changes in

Re: Recommended Dependencies

2009-08-29 Thread Guy Dalziel
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 10:02:19AM -0500, Randy McMurchy wrote: In the Links package, we have this: bridgehead renderas=sect4Recommended/bridgehead para role=recommendedxref linkend=gpm/ (if mouse support is desired) and xref linkend=openssl//para My take is that

Re: Recommended Dependencies

2009-08-29 Thread Guy Dalziel
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 10:20:14AM -0500, William Immendorf wrote: But I think OpenSSL is a essential requirment for any Linux system, mainly do to it allowing security into the system. That doesn't make it a requirement of this package. Compiling in the ability to use HTTPS has nothing to do

Re: Recommended Dependencies

2009-08-29 Thread Guy Dalziel
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 11:20:01AM -0500, DJ Lucas wrote: Required: Package will not build/install/work without it. Recommended: Package looses significant functionality without it or (new) causes issues with other packages if omitted. Optional: Package gets additional functionality if

Re: Absence

2009-08-28 Thread Guy Dalziel
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 12:48:34PM +0100, Guy Dalziel wrote: I'll be gone for a little while as I attempt to repair my desktop, I believe I'll need a new motherboard. My new CPU will be a quad core Intel Core i7, this CPU is - as far as I can tell - 64-bit. I'm sure I can build a 32-bit system

Absence

2009-08-27 Thread Guy Dalziel
I'll be gone for a little while as I attempt to repair my desktop, I believe I'll need a new motherboard. I guess it wasn't up to my standards, it's surprising how quickly problems develop when you leave a computer on 24/7. The entire thing just froze up and now I'm getting SeekComplete errors on

Re: Lesstif tests require Xorg-apps

2009-08-15 Thread Guy Dalziel
On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 07:07:23AM -0600, Matthew Burgess wrote: make[3]: Entering directory `/sources/blfs/lesstif-0.95.2/test/Xm/drag_help' gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -I../../../include/Motif-2.1 -I../../../include/Motif-2.1 -I../../../include/Motif-1.2

Re: Lesstif tests require Xorg-apps

2009-08-15 Thread Guy Dalziel
On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 07:32:33AM -0600, Matthew Burgess wrote: Well, as I said in my original message, it's an optional dependency of MesaLib, which, in turn, is a recommended dependency of Xorg Applications. So, I'd imagine that folks following that dependency trail would expect to be

Re: Anduin URL for Slang broken: fix

2009-08-14 Thread Guy Dalziel
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 07:20:17PM -0400, William Immendorf wrote: It should be: http://anduin.linuxfromscratch.org/sources/BLFS/svn/s/slang-2.2.0.tar.bz2 Noted. Thanks. pgprYHSMsfTuo.pgp Description: PGP signature -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ:

Re: Xorg-server-1.6

2009-08-13 Thread Guy Dalziel
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 11:06:03PM -, DJ Lucas wrote: Okay...so I'm seeing added dri2proto and updated inputproto, renderproto, randrproto, xcb-proto, lib-xcb, libX11, libxrandr, xtrans, libxrender, libdrm, Mesa, xorg-server, and a slew of driver updates. Also, there is no *upgrade* path

Re: Why do we remove Xorg packages after installation?

2009-08-13 Thread Guy Dalziel
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 02:16:34PM -0600, Matthew Burgess wrote: The example shell script loop on http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/svn/x/xorg7.html does `rm -f $package' as its last command for each package in each Xorg section. I'm just wondering why, having downloaded the

Re: Xorg-server-1.6

2009-08-11 Thread Guy Dalziel
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 01:30:48AM -, DJ Lucas wrote: Guy, how is that combination of Mesa-7.5 and xorg-server-1.6 working out for you? Are you pretty confident in it? After minimal review, following on the two distros' examples, I'm thinking we should move to 1.6. Pretty good so far,

Re: Tetex issue and fix

2009-08-07 Thread Guy Dalziel
On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 01:53:00AM +, William Immendorf wrote: Anyone have a fix? See attached. Submitted By: Guy Dalziel gdalziel at linuxfromscratch dot org Date: 2009-08-07 Initial Package Version: 3.0 Upstream Status: unknown Origin: http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/sm-commit/2009

Re: Tetex issue and fix

2009-08-07 Thread Guy Dalziel
On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 01:13:57PM +, William Immendorf wrote: Thanks. Why don't you credit me for finding the TeTeX flaw? For goodness sake, William. You didn't find the flaw as I was already in the process of creating a fix for it, I just hadn't created a patch for it. Just because it's

Re: r7932 - in trunk/BOOK: . gnome/core introduction/welcome postlfs/security

2009-08-05 Thread Guy Dalziel
On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 10:52:47AM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: That's the way we've done it for a long time. If we want to change, there are a lot of places that need to be changed and it is probably not worth it. The reason these tags were chosen in the first place was two fold. The

Re: r7932 - in trunk/BOOK: . gnome/core introduction/welcome postlfs/security

2009-08-05 Thread Guy Dalziel
On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 04:56:19PM +0100, Guy Dalziel wrote: On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 10:52:47AM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: That's the way we've done it for a long time. If we want to change, there are a lot of places that need to be changed and it is probably not worth it. The reason

Re: r7932 - in trunk/BOOK: . gnome/core introduction/welcome postlfs/security

2009-08-05 Thread Guy Dalziel
On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 11:34:27AM -0500, Randy McMurchy wrote: Guy Dalziel wrote these words on 08/05/09 11:16 CST: On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 04:56:19PM +0100, Guy Dalziel wrote: My apologies, I sent an email to -dev about this subject before you sent yours. However, I believe it is correct

Re: option vs parameter

2009-08-05 Thread Guy Dalziel
On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 11:48:19AM -0500, Randy McMurchy wrote: Additionally, because we've set a standard and been using it for many years, I suggest we maintain status quo. I've noticed that a lot of the pages don't make proper use of the different tags. I'm suggesting it now partly because

Re: option vs parameter

2009-08-05 Thread Guy Dalziel
On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 12:23:53PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: I'd like to see an example of the proposed change in both html and pdf. Bruce, hopefully this is what you want: http://quantum.linuxfromscratch.org/~gdalziel/blfs-book-xsl. I'm afraid I don't have anything to generate a PDF with yet,

Re: option vs parameter

2009-08-05 Thread Guy Dalziel
On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 01:20:40PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: On quantum, you should be able to just do make pdf. It says that it can't find the command 'fop'. I tried it on my desktop and I get the same error. pgpAch7a4599y.pgp Description: PGP signature --

Re: option vs parameter

2009-08-05 Thread Guy Dalziel
On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 01:45:18PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: OK, try it again on quantum. I couldn't render the cut-down book, so I had to render the enire thing: http://quantum.linuxfromscratch.org/?~gdalziel/BLFS-BOOK.pd pgpV2H1x1X7nR.pgp Description: PGP signature --

Re: option vs parameter

2009-08-05 Thread Guy Dalziel
On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 08:21:44PM +0100, Guy Dalziel wrote: On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 01:45:18PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: OK, try it again on quantum. I couldn't render the cut-down book, so I had to render the enire thing: http://quantum.linuxfromscratch.org/?~gdalziel/BLFS-BOOK.pd Let's

Re: option vs parameter

2009-08-05 Thread Guy Dalziel
On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 08:23:55PM +0100, Guy Dalziel wrote: http://quantum.linuxfromscratch.org/~gdalziel/BLFS-BOOK.pdf Just to make it easier the pages are 519 and 529. pgpurGBRT4Dgu.pgp Description: PGP signature -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http

Re: option vs parameter

2009-08-05 Thread Guy Dalziel
On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 03:10:19PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Guy Dalziel wrote: On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 08:23:55PM +0100, Guy Dalziel wrote: http://quantum.linuxfromscratch.org/~gdalziel/BLFS-BOOK.pdf Just to make it easier the pages are 519 and 529. That's labeled pages 500 and 510

Re: option vs parameter

2009-08-05 Thread Guy Dalziel
On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 03:33:55PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: I thought you might be able to type them in to your pdf viewer. Clearly there must be 9 initial pages that are not numbered. I've got a couple of viewers that work differently. There are 19 pages in the Title/Preface. Page 1

Re: option vs parameter

2009-08-05 Thread Guy Dalziel
On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 06:05:03PM +0100, Guy Dalziel wrote: However, now there is a slight problem: I grepped the book for any uses of optional and I found Xpdf. Looking at the page on the site it seems that optional renders exactly the same as option. That would probably have

Re: Xorg version

2009-08-02 Thread Guy Dalziel
On Sat, Aug 01, 2009 at 07:20:43PM -0700, Dan Nicholson wrote: Interesting. It's not using the Xlib CFLAGS. I wasn't involved in the merging of egl into mesa and it's had some silly build issues. This should be set in X11_INCLUDES. Are you setting PKG_CONFIG_PATH when building mesa? Could you

Re: Ghostscript Nitpicks

2009-08-02 Thread Guy Dalziel
On Sun, Aug 02, 2009 at 08:23:57AM -0500, Randy McMurchy wrote: Who is we? We try not to use this is the book unless it is something the editors recommend personally. In a technical environment we should be avoided if possible. How about just removing the then we must first? That's just a

Re: Ghostscript Nitpicks

2009-08-02 Thread Guy Dalziel
On Sun, Aug 02, 2009 at 08:23:57AM -0500, Randy McMurchy wrote: This may have been in one of the Ghostscript packages already, but it sounds funny. Can we substitute something else for back and forth. I can't really think of anything offhand right now, as I'm not sure what it really means.

Re: Xorg version

2009-08-02 Thread Guy Dalziel
On Sun, Aug 02, 2009 at 09:19:30AM -0700, Dan Nicholson wrote: Oops. I was looking at master. Indeed, the necessary part is missing on 7.5. Try this: sed -i '/INCLUDE_DIRS =/s/$/ $(X11_INCLUDES)/' src/egl/main/Makefile src/egl/drivers/demo/Makefile This should be fixed in the next 7.5

Re: New Editors

2009-08-02 Thread Guy Dalziel
On Sun, Aug 02, 2009 at 05:17:25PM -0500, Randy McMurchy wrote: Thanks for a job well done, fellas. Keep up the good work. Thank you, Randy. That's very kind of you to say. I must confess though, I shouldn't really be thanked for something I enjoy doing. pgpPJ5fwMGZZK.pgp Description: PGP

Re: New Editors

2009-08-02 Thread Guy Dalziel
On Sun, Aug 02, 2009 at 06:07:43PM -0500, William Immendorf wrote: PS: Please give me credit for the Ghostscript stuff, with my patches. I did not use your patches. For starters you removed all xref entries for epsgs, I commented them out. pgpJjAkrg45bj.pgp Description: PGP signature --

Re: Xorg version

2009-08-01 Thread Guy Dalziel
On Sat, Aug 01, 2009 at 04:30:23PM -0700, Dan Nicholson wrote: Any chance you could post the part of the build log that fails? I do most of the maintenance for mesa's build. Sure, see attached. What jumps out to me is that it can't find Xlib.h, although this file exists in

Re: Xorg version

2009-07-30 Thread Guy Dalziel
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 05:03:16AM -, DJ Lucas wrote: Honestly, the only thing I can recall being a real problem is the hal input patch for 1.5.3 (and old hal that didn't account for new udev). I don't use HAL myself, I tend to prefer to do everything by hand. I've heard, though, that X

Re: Xorg version

2009-07-30 Thread Guy Dalziel
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 08:16:40AM -0500, Dan Nicholson wrote: However, the patch DJ's referring to is in the xserver-1.6 series if you decide to go that route. I think most of the distros are using the 1.6 server on their newer releases. I think I'm going to have to. My situation hasn't

Re: Xorg version

2009-07-30 Thread Guy Dalziel
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 10:24:18AM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: I don't see how this can be detected automatically. In my case I have two monitors. How can it detect what the orientation is? Which screen is on the left (or top)? I also use nvidia drivers, not nv. How would it detect what

Re: Xorg version

2009-07-30 Thread Guy Dalziel
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 08:07:56PM +0100, Guy Dalziel wrote: When you put it like that it does seem questionable, but as I don't use it I can't really say much about it. I believe that HAL uses FDI policies in order to allow you to configure your hardware. Sorry Dan, I see you've already

Re: Xorg version

2009-07-30 Thread Guy Dalziel
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 10:54:47PM -, DJ Lucas wrote: We also need the 1.6 server to use the new Intel DRI2(???) stuff right, along with new Mesa, new LibDRM, and new drivers? Any other gotchas? I haven't kept tabs on X development lately. Too much magic voodoo stuff over there. ;-) I

Xorg version

2009-07-29 Thread Guy Dalziel
Do we know what version of Xorg we're goint to use yet? I'm assuming it will be all the latest stuff. If I'm going to compile stuff against it, then I'll need to have some idea of what we're going to use. pgpv7Uwd3E1Th.pgp Description: PGP signature --

Re: Xorg version

2009-07-29 Thread Guy Dalziel
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 04:21:10PM -0500, Randy McMurchy wrote: Well, seeing how the book is at 7.4 and that is the latest release you can get ( http://www.x.org/wiki/ ) and there is nothing slated in the 7.5 release schedule, I'd say we're going to use 7.4. :-) The reason I ask is because I

Re: Xorg version

2009-07-29 Thread Guy Dalziel
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 04:43:51PM -0500, Randy McMurchy wrote: That is how I thought you got in trouble. At least that is what I remember Dan and D.J. always saying. Most of the stuff in X hasn't been touched in years, so you're not really dealing with anything too unpredictable. The recent

Re: Xorg version

2009-07-29 Thread Guy Dalziel
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 05:13:22PM -0500, Randy McMurchy wrote: I'm confused. How can you say X has not been touched in years? I didn't say X hasn't been touched in years, I said most of it hasn't. You simply have to take a look at the dates in the ftp. The protos get updated quite often, but a

Re: proposal: new approach

2009-07-25 Thread Guy Dalziel
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 05:44:29PM -0500, Randy McMurchy wrote: Tobias has sent a personal apology via email to me. His apology is accepted. He made good points in his post. In fact, the BDB rejection may have been a bit steep by Guy. But let's get past all that. I don't consider it that

Re: proposal: new approach

2009-07-25 Thread Guy Dalziel
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 01:48:52PM -, DJ Lucas wrote: behind. I've just started over _again_ with the addition of gcc-4.4.1. Seeing that gawk has known breakage with some packages, I'm going to rebuild gawk quick to account for that change as well (I'm sure a full LFS build will occur by

Re: Annotating LFS-6.5 compatibility

2009-07-25 Thread Guy Dalziel
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 02:22:18PM -0500, Randy McMurchy wrote: As BLFS packages are built on top of an LFS-6.5 system, insert the following between the description of the package and the sect3 Package Information. paraThis package is known to build and work properly using an LFS-6.5

Re: Annotating LFS-6.5 compatibility

2009-07-25 Thread Guy Dalziel
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 04:16:03PM -0500, Randy McMurchy wrote: lfs65check; bridgehead renderas=sect3Package Information/bridgehead Good plan. Only thing I might do different is find a better name for the entity. This might be something we want to do for 7.0 as well. I would

Re: berkeley db

2009-07-24 Thread Guy Dalziel
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 12:10:50PM +0200, Tobias Gasser wrote: i suggest to copy the 4.7.25 instructions from lfs-6.4 to blfs, including the patch. Tobias, we already have a ticket for this. http://wiki.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/ticket/2533, as you can see there are some issues with this

gentoo-ftp-repo

2009-07-23 Thread Guy Dalziel
It appears that gentoo-ftp-repo; no longer works, I checked out the directory (ftp://ftp.linux.ee/pub/gentoo) and it's completely empty. Does anyone have any suggestions about what to substitute this with? pgpM0jAj29FFN.pgp Description: PGP signature --

Re: gentoo-ftp-repo

2009-07-23 Thread Guy Dalziel
Addendum. I just noticed that this issue was discussed 5 months ago, I believe it was decided to wait and see. 5 months is a long time for something to be broken without someone noticing it, and so I think it's time to change the ftp value. pgpfoTK2sTURR.pgp Description: PGP signature --

Re: gentoo-ftp-repo

2009-07-23 Thread Guy Dalziel
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 10:06:46AM -0500, Randy McMurchy wrote: Here's one that works: ftp://mirror.ovh.net/gentoo-distfiles/distfiles/ It seems to load very fast as well. Much faster than any of the other Gentoo ftp repos I've seen before. Thanks Randy, that seems to be a good one. We

Re: New BLFS Editor

2009-07-23 Thread Guy Dalziel
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 09:19:10AM -0500, Randy McMurchy wrote: I'd like to announce that Wayne Blaszczyk has accepted a position as a BLFS Editor. My apologies on a belated reply, welcome to the team. You clearly have an aptitude for development and the willingness to put the effort in. May

Incorrect note on the BLFS homepage

2009-07-21 Thread Guy Dalziel
I just noticed that there's a note on the BLFS homepage that reads, Note: a new stable version is a month or two from being ready for release which will be the complement to LFS 6.4. Until the new stable version of BLFS is released, you should use the current development book if you're using LFS

Re: Incorrect note on the BLFS homepage

2009-07-21 Thread Guy Dalziel
Addendum. The url is http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/read.html pgppoLesoqAvc.pgp Description: PGP signature -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: LibMPEG3-1.8 Makefile patch

2009-07-20 Thread Guy Dalziel
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 07:58:07AM -0500, krendosha...@dementedfury.org wrote: I've just ordered a D-Link DIR-655 to replace it, hopefully it should be here soon. It arrived this morning and seems to be working pretty well, I've now got my network back. Now I can get some work done.

Re: libbonobo-2.18.0 errors

2009-07-20 Thread Guy Dalziel
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 09:37:06AM -0700, Craig Jackson wrote: Reporting bugs against BLFS-SVN still has value for the LFS-6.5/BLFS-6.5 releases, correct? LFS 6.4 and 6.5 use completely different GCC versions. When we compile things in BLFS we are validating that software X will compile under X

Re: FreeGLUT vs. MesaGLUT

2009-07-15 Thread Guy Dalziel
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 08:59:38PM -0700, Craig Jackson wrote: Now that the license warning has been added, does anyone have an opinion about one or the other strictly based on technical merits? I personally prefer stable and commercial (yet still legal) to unstable and GPL. Personally I

LibMPEG3-1.8 Makefile patch

2009-07-15 Thread Guy Dalziel
I've attached a rewritten patch for fixing the LibMPEG3-1.8 Makefile, can anyone see anything wrong with it? If it's acceptable I shall upload it tomorrow along with the version update. Submitted By: Guy Dalziel krendosha...@dementedfury.org Date: 2009-07-15 Initial Package Version: 1.8

Re: New BLFS Editor

2009-07-13 Thread Guy Dalziel
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 07:55:25AM +0200, Thomas Trepl wrote: Welcome on board, Guy! Thank you for the warm welcomes everyone. I appreciate it. pgpXFUq6RLS92.pgp Description: PGP signature -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ:

D-Bus Glib bindings

2009-07-12 Thread Guy Dalziel
Under D-Bus we use the --libexec flag to put the files in /usr/lib/dbus-1.0. However, with the Glib bindings we don't do that even though it puts files in /usr/libexec. I think that we should use --libexecdir for the bindings, '--libexecdir=/usr/lib/dbus-1.0/dbus-glib' should be suitable.

GnuPG2 with Mutt

2009-07-02 Thread Guy Dalziel
The mutt page mentions the use of GnuPG 2, however it fails to mention the need for gpg2 to be symlinked to gpg in order for the imported commands to work. The attached patch corrects this. Index: BOOK/basicnet/mailnews/mutt.xml ===

Re: GnuPG2 with Mutt

2009-07-02 Thread Guy Dalziel
On Thu, Jul 02, 2009 at 09:50:41AM -0500, Randy McMurchy wrote: We need to work out better text for the patch. Not addressed is the situation where one has gpg and gpg2 installed, where the need to create the symlink is not there. I figured that if one were to have gpg they would not be in the

Re: GnuPG2 with Mutt

2009-07-02 Thread Guy Dalziel
I've made the suggested changes and the patch is attached, hopefully it should be more approvable. I couldn't think of a clean way to sed gpg with gpg2, there doesn't seem to be anything predictable about all of the occurances of the command gpg. Index: BOOK/basicnet/mailnews/mutt.xml

Re: book typos

2009-06-28 Thread Guy Dalziel
On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 06:35:05PM -0500, DJ Lucas wrote: Excellent! Thanks for the help Guy. Much appreciated. No problem, it can be tiring work but it's always worth it in the end. I shall put up more as soon as the last ones go in - that way I make sure that I don't include them in the

Re: zsh compiling against gdbm

2009-06-28 Thread Guy Dalziel
On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 04:14:25PM +0300, Agathoklis D. Hatzimanikas wrote: Thanks, that is much better than before but there is still some repetition that can be avoided. How about the attached diff? I see what you mean, I think keeping the commands outside of the section for multiple

Re: book typos

2009-06-27 Thread Guy Dalziel
On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 11:21:00AM +0100, Ken Moffat wrote: Applied in r7826. Thanks. I guess you'll be creating a ticket for Amarok ? No problem. As for the ticket I created it just a moment ago, thanks for the hint. I will get a diff of more fixes up soon now that the last ones have been

Re: book typos

2009-06-27 Thread Guy Dalziel
Here is the latest diff of fixes. It's mostly typos but there are a few grammatical errors there as well, including one or two syntax corrections. I think I have most of the typos but you can never be too sure. I shall start checking for grammar and syntax soon. Index:

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