I noticed that the pages that the usernotes are pointing to are all in
lowercase which causes pages not to be found, such as pointing to xpdf
and the page is Xpdf, xmms and it's XMMS, it's not the same in every
case though as OpenSSL points to the right place.
A lot of the usernotes don't actually
Hi all,
Though it is just my opinion, I *do not* like using the section 3 header
for the User notes link. It is much too ostentatious for me. I much more
preferred the simple paragraph presentation used throughout the book in
*every* other place there is a link.
Furthermore, I need to know if
Guy Dalziel wrote these words on 04/14/06 11:53 CST:
> I noticed that the pages that the usernotes are pointing to are all in
> lowercase which causes pages not to be found, such as pointing to xpdf
> and the page is Xpdf, xmms and it's XMMS, it's not the same in every
> case though as OpenSSL poin
> case though as OpenSSL points to the right place.
> A lot of the usernotes don't actually exist yet, and just take you to
> a page that says plain and simply "not found", an idea for this might
> be "A page for this program does not yet exist, you can request to
> hav
Dan Nicholson wrote these words on 04/14/06 12:32 CST:
> I'll fix Xpdf and XMMS now.
Please don't. It is already fixed in my sandbox. Did you read my
previous message?
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Randy McMurchy wrote these words on 04/14/06 12:25 CST:
> For packages that have pages already created and don't match the
> link, I'll update the links.
>
> For the ones that don't yet exist, we'll have to make a determination
> on whether to just create all the pages, or do something else.
Thi
On 14/04/06, Randy McMurchy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> For example, the a2ps package has a page already created named 'A2PS'.
> All capitalized. Of course, nowhere in the XML or anywhere else is
> a2ps referenced all capitalized, yet the Wiki page was created like
> this. There would be no way of
On 4/14/06, Randy McMurchy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Another thing is that some of the pages that have been created, such
> as the page for the a2ps package, are created without any rhyme or
> reason on how the name was chosen.
>
> For example, the a2ps package has a page already created named
On 4/14/06, Randy McMurchy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dan Nicholson wrote these words on 04/14/06 12:32 CST:
>
> > I'll fix Xpdf and XMMS now.
>
> Please don't. It is already fixed in my sandbox. Did you read my
> previous message?
Got it. I think you wrote that message at the same time I was w
Dan Nicholson wrote these words on 04/14/06 13:10 CST:
> I think the idea is that the Wiki is following the conventional
> behavior of putting wiki links with mixed-case proper name, like
> OpenSSL. We could probably switch to one of two conventions:
But there is no consistency here. For example
On 4/14/06, Randy McMurchy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dan Nicholson wrote these words on 04/14/06 13:10 CST:
>
> > I think the idea is that the Wiki is following the conventional
> > behavior of putting wiki links with mixed-case proper name, like
> > OpenSSL. We could probably switch to one of
Dan Nicholson wrote these words on 04/14/06 13:10 CST:
> I think the idea is that the Wiki is following the conventional
> behavior of putting wiki links with mixed-case proper name, like
> OpenSSL. We could probably switch to one of two conventions:
But there is no consistency here. For example
Guy Dalziel wrote these words on 04/14/06 13:10 CST:
> Perhaps this data could be grabbed from the title of the page itself.
But it is already done. It was pulled from the name of the .xml file.
If I had known that there were so many pages already created, I would
have perhaps done it differentl
Randy McMurchy wrote these words on 04/14/06 13:44 CST:
> But there is no consistency here.
Sorry for the double post. Thunderbird said it didn't deliver the
message, so I sent it again. However, Thunderbird lied. :-)
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On 14/04/06, Randy McMurchy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What is a shame is that I sent an email to the -dev list before any
> changes were made about using all lower-case names for the Wiki
> links asking if this was okay. Not one reply.
I must have missed that one otherwise I would have pointed t
Guy Dalziel wrote these words on 04/14/06 14:03 CST:
> I must have missed that one otherwise I would have pointed that out
> for you, sorry about that.
No big deal. We can get it all fixed. However, some of the names of
the wiki links make no sense at all to me. For example, the names of
the Xorg
Dan Nicholson wrote:
> If
> I'm logged in, though, a button for "Create Page" is there. I don't
> know if this is because I have special privelages.
Registered user may update a page, but not create a new page. Editors
can create new pages.
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Randy McMurchy wrote:
Hi all,
Though it is just my opinion, I *do not* like using the section 3 header
for the User notes link. It is much too ostentatious for me. I much more
preferred the simple paragraph presentation used throughout the book in
*every* other place there is a link.
I&#
Jeremy Huntwork wrote these words on 03/30/06 08:44 CST:
If so, I think the placement is OK,
I thought the placement on the page (where it currently is) was decided
via list discussion and finalized. That was not the purpose of my message.
but the CSS could be adjusted to
render it a bit sma
On 3/30/06, Jeremy Huntwork <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Randy McMurchy wrote:
> >
> > Though it is just my opinion, I *do not* like using the section 3 header
> > for the User notes link.
I don't think that's what will be used. That was an iteration Bruce
Randy McMurchy wrote:
I thought the placement on the page (where it currently is) was decided
via list discussion and finalized. That was not the purpose of my message.
Gotcha.
Additionally, I don't believe you'll find anywhere else in the book,
that a hyperlink is not contained in a paragrap
El Jueves, 30 de Marzo de 2006 16:58, Dan Nicholson escribió:
> User Notes:
>
That is the more semantically correct tagging for both XML and generated
XHTML's.
Plus, having the class="usermotes" attribute in the HTML's we can to hack the
CSS code to make th
Dan Nicholson wrote:
> On 3/30/06, Jeremy Huntwork <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Randy McMurchy wrote:
>>> Though it is just my opinion, I *do not* like using the section 3 header
>>> for the User notes link.
>
> I don't think that's what will be u
El Jueves, 30 de Marzo de 2006 20:05, Bruce Dubbs escribió:
> Where the is the first one in the page.
... except if the page isn't a package page.
In that cases the link or links will be placed depending on the context.
Right?
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M.Canales.es wrote:
> El Jueves, 30 de Marzo de 2006 20:05, Bruce Dubbs escribió:
>
>> Where the is the first one in the page.
>
> ... except if the page isn't a package page.
>
> In that cases the link or links will be placed depending on the context.
>
> Right?
Right. For automation purpo
Dan Nicholson wrote:
> On 3/30/06, Bruce Dubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> That's right. I tried several iterations and was using openssl as a
>> testbed. Some other places also got in though. I'd like to settle on:
>>
>>User Notes:
>>
On 3/31/06, Bruce Dubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dan Nicholson wrote:
> >
> > Actually what's in trunk right now for OpenSSL has a role="usernotes"
> > in the :
> >
> > User Notes:
> >
> >
> > Is this correct, o
Dan Nicholson wrote these words on 03/31/06 18:53 CST:
On 3/31/06, Bruce Dubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
The above is correct. The rendering process ignores the ulink role. We
can access the format in the css anyway as:
OK. I'll fix the ones I've made and any others I find in the book
that
no
> clue which one he's talking about.
I was a bit confused myself, but it's the second one (below) since he
also mentioned how the usernotes role in can be useful.
> We want it like this: (place an example)
User Notes:
> Look at the (example) BLFS XML.
postlfs/se
Dan Nicholson wrote:
> On 3/31/06, Bruce Dubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Dan Nicholson wrote:
>>> Actually what's in trunk right now for OpenSSL has a role="usernotes"
>>> in the :
>>>
>>> User Notes:
>>>
>&
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 03/31/06 19:07 CST:
User Notes:
Thanks.
However, I'll fix the indentation. There should be none. Manuel
throughout the book used no indentation inside paragraph tags.
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Dan Nicholson wrote these words on 03/31/06 19:04 CST:
User Notes:
and one minute later Bruce wrote:
> User Notes:
>
Total and utter confusion here. So, do I just pick which one I
should use?
Guys, this shouldn't really be so difficult. Can you say "get
o examples that differ. I have no
>> clue which one he's talking about.
>
> I was a bit confused myself, but it's the second one (below) since he
> also mentioned how the usernotes role in can be useful.
>
>> We want it like this: (place an example)
>
>
On 3/31/06, Randy McMurchy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> and one minute later Bruce wrote:
>
> > User Notes:
> >
>
> Total and utter confusion here. So, do I just pick which one I
> should use?
Yes, this is ridiculous. :) I've now changed all the
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 03/30/06 12:05 CST:
> That's right. I tried several iterations and was using openssl as a
> testbed. Some other places also got in though. I'd like to settle on:
>
>User Notes:
>
Just a few minutes after:
> M.Canales.es w
El Domingo, 9 de Abril de 2006 21:51, Randy McMurchy escribió:
> and here's what Manuel suggests:
>
> User Notes:
>
>
> The only difference is that Manuel likes to have the role="usernotes"
> in the *and* tags, whereas Bruce said in just the
> t
t;
echo
for FILENAME in $(cat /home/randy/specialadd1.list); do
grep -l '' $FILENAME >>/home/randy/specialadd2.list
done
echo "Found $(cat /home/randy/specialadd2.list | wc -l) package .xml files"
echo
for FILENAME in $(cat /home/randy/specialadd2.list); do
grep -lL
Randy McMurchy wrote these words on 04/09/06 15:33 CST:
> sed -i "1,/<\/sect2>/ s|.*| role=\"usernotes\">User Notes:\\
> \\
> \\
> &|" $FILENAME
I forgot to mention, I'll run the following sed also against a list of
all the pack
On Sun, 2006-04-09 at 16:12 -0500, Randy McMurchy wrote:
> sed -i -e '//,/<\/seglistitem>/ s/\[/{/g' \
>-e '//,/<\/seglistitem>/ s/\]/}/g' \
> $FILENAME
Also had to run the sed you see above but substitute varlistentry
where you see seglistitem to catch all the square brackets in the
Bruce,
We've got issues right now with the Wiki because all the links in the
book are lowercase, and the links in the wiki are mixed case. So, for
already created Wiki pages, the links in the book often don't link to
the correct place. Let's decide which way to go with this.
Either the book lin
Jeremy Huntwork wrote:
http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/svn/postlfs/config.html
Looking over this page a bit further, I spotted two issues with the
following:
"A hint that describes the instructions for creating this ISO imate is
available as a hint at
http://www.linuxfromscratch
Dan Nicholson wrote these words on 04/15/06 14:18 CST:
> We've got issues right now with the Wiki because all the links in the
> book are lowercase, and the links in the wiki are mixed case. So, for
> already created Wiki pages, the links in the book often don't link to
> the correct place. Let'
On 4/15/06, Randy McMurchy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Dan, can you provide an example of one of the mixed case pages that
> don't match the book link?
Oh, it looks like you've fixed the ones in the book that had capitals
in their Wiki titles. I was thinking about Libvorbis, XMMS and Xpdf.
Mo
On Sat, Apr 15, 2006 at 12:37:31PM -0700, Dan Nicholson wrote:
>
> I don't mind changing the titles in the Wiki, but I want to set a
> policy so we don't keep running into this problem.
For those of us who tend to type URIs into their browser instead of
clicking endlessly, all lowercase would be
Dan Nicholson wrote these words on 04/15/06 14:37 CST:
> I don't mind changing the titles in the Wiki, but I want to set a
> policy so we don't keep running into this problem.
Dan, pardon my ignorance here, but please work with me. I don't
know what you are talking about. Please explain. Where ar
On 4/15/06, Randy McMurchy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dan Nicholson wrote these words on 04/15/06 14:37 CST:
>
> > I don't mind changing the titles in the Wiki, but I want to set a
> > policy so we don't keep running into this problem.
>
> Dan, pardon my ignorance here, but please work with me. I
On Sat, Apr 15, 2006 at 12:52:17PM -0700, Dan Nicholson wrote:
>
> So far, it's looking like all lowercase is in the lead with one vote
woohoo! A landslide!! :D
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El Sábado, 15 de Abril de 2006 21:52, Dan Nicholson escribió:
> So far, it's looking like all lowercase is in the lead with one vote
> by Archaic and a possibly implicit vote by Randy judging by how you've
> entered them on the book pages. I'm indifferent. Bruce?
I'm also for all lowercase, inc
Dan Nicholson wrote these words on 04/15/06 14:52 CST:
> So far, it's looking like all lowercase is in the lead with one vote
> by Archaic and a possibly implicit vote by Randy judging by how you've
> entered them on the book pages. I'm indifferent. Bruce?
Well, I'd like to see all lowercase as
On 4/15/06, Randy McMurchy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> But logically, isn't lowercase the easiest from a consistency point
> of view. I looked at the links you made on that page. There is no
> way to get that logically from the book's sources. And the books'
> sources is all there is.
You are c
* M.Canales.es <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-04-15 15:16]:
>
> I'm also for all lowercase, including the renaming of current Wiki pages.
+1
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On 4/15/06, Archaic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 15, 2006 at 12:52:17PM -0700, Dan Nicholson wrote:
> >
> > So far, it's looking like all lowercase is in the lead with one vote
>
> woohoo! A landslide!! :D
Landslide it is! I already converted this page to using lowercase addresses:
h
Archaic wrote:
On Sat, Apr 15, 2006 at 12:52:17PM -0700, Dan Nicholson wrote:
So far, it's looking like all lowercase is in the lead with one vote
woohoo! A landslide!! :D
Mudslides are better. *drool*
http://www.mixed-drink.com/Vodka/mudslide.html
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me of the user notes page and create that page.
I don't want to go back an change the book book for this.
I'd like to just rename any existing pages to match the book. This may
affect some menus that are now in the wiki.
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since given up trying to
understand the capitalization in the book, I just accept it, so it
doesn't matter too much to me beyond registering another +1 for
lowercase ;)
> In adding new pages, it will be up to the original author to decide the
> name of the user notes page and create that
On 4/15/06, Ken Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Or even to just
> create all the missing ones now ?
I'm working on it, Ken. But it is tedious, with a Capital T! :-)
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Ken Moffat wrote:
> Would it make sense to create empty pages (where they don't already
> exist) whenever a package is updated or added ? Or even to just
> create all the missing ones now ?
I had that on my todo list, but never got there. Dan is working on it.
Dan, when (not if) you get tir
On 4/15/06, Bruce Dubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I had that on my todo list, but never got there. Dan is working on it.
>
> Dan, when (not if) you get tired, post a note and I'll try to pick up
> from there.
I'll probably stop in a little bit. However, there's more than enough
space for us
M.Canales.es wrote:
I'm also for all lowercase, including the renaming of current Wiki pages.
+1
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Alexander E. Patrakov wrote these words on 04/15/06 21:13 CST:
> M.Canales.es wrote:
>> I'm also for all lowercase, including the renaming of current Wiki pages.
>
> +1
This, coming from the author of the A2PS page in all capitalized
letters. :-)
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Jeremy Huntwork wrote:
Looking over this page a bit further, I spotted two issues with the
following:
"A hint that describes the instructions for creating this ISO imate is
available as a hint at
http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/hints/downloads/files/livecd.txt.";
1. s/imate/image/
2. That
Alexander E. Patrakov wrote:
I was too busy to actually do the work, so the official hint doesn't
exist yet. Maybe tomorrow I'll continue writing.
No worries. :) Was just curious why there's a broken link.
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