: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 6:06 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] electrical power uses cut
If there are inquisitive kids in the house, it is advisable to turn the
switch to off if there is
nothing plugged into the socket so that if the little darlings poke
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Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] electrical power uses cut
Hi Gary, When the switch is turned on current is sent to the light fixture.
If the bulb is missing or burned out there is no completion of the circuit.
Only when a circuit is completed is there a use of power. Like your outlets
current
the economics of darwinism are not beneficial to modern society.
Thus we split from nature.
On Wed, 29 Oct 2008, cheetah wrote:
but what about the learning effect?
I mean when sed little darling sticks something in the outlet and gets
knocked on his little but he will figure out that, hay
the names.
Have a great day!
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From: Jewel
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 6:11 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] electrical power uses cut
The light bulb may be inactive, but I believe that the socket into which you
plug
Does current flow to a burned out or missing light bulb when the light
switch is turned on?
Gary in TX
in or turned
on.
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From: Gary Hale [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 9:48 AM
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] electrical power uses cut
Does current flow to a burned out or missing light bulb when the light
switch is turned
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From: Lenny McHugh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 8:56 AM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] electrical power uses cut
Hi Gary, When the switch is turned on current is sent to the light
fixture.
If the bulb is missing or burned out
: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 9:59 AM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] electrical power uses cut
Hi,
I was talking to a friend in London one time, and he said all the power
plugs over there have an on off switch. I know there system is different
than ours. But I wonder if that would make any
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Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 1:59 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
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Hi,
I was talking to a friend in London one time, and he said all the power
plugs over there have an on off switch. I know
Gary,
Nope, when an incandescent bulb burns out the fillament that causes it to
glow breaks and thus no current flows.
I can't absolutely say for sure about fluorescent bulbs, it may be that a very
small amount of current flows through the electronic ballasts when
the bulb dies, but I'd guess
Yes it does.
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From: Gary Hale
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 08:48
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] electrical power uses cut
Does current flow to a burned out or missing light bulb when the light
switch is turned
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From: Shawn Keen
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 08:59
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] electrical power uses cut
Hi,
I was talking to a friend in London one time, and he said all the power
plugs over there have an on off switch. I know
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 12:07 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] electrical power uses cut
Gary,
Nope, when an incandescent bulb burns out the fillament that causes it to
glow breaks and thus no current flows.
I can't absolutely say for sure about fluorescent bulbs, it may
It goes to it, but not through it.
Ron
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From: NLG
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 2:40 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] electrical power uses cut
Yes it does.
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From: Gary Hale
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From: Shawn Keen
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 9:59 AM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] electrical power uses cut
Hi,
I was talking to a friend in London one time, and he said all the power
plugs over there have an on off switch. I know
If there are inquisitive kids in the house, it is advisable to turn the switch
to off if there is
nothing plugged into the socket so that if the little darlings poke a metal
object into one of those
inviting little holes, the aforesaid ld won't get a shock that it won't forget
for a good long
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From: Lenny McHugh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 8:56 AM
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Hi Gary, When the switch
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From: NLG [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Yes it does.
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Behalf Of Max Robinson
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 5:24 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] electrical power uses cut
If we speak, and write, unclearly we will think unclearly. Current
but what about the learning effect?
I mean when sed little darling sticks something in the outlet and gets knocked
on his little but he will figure out that, hay maybe that wasn't such a good
idea?
it worked for me!
no I didn't put anything in the outlet but I touched the prongs of a plug I was
The light bulb may be inactive, but I believe that the socket into which you
plug it is not.
Therefore, when I have to change a bulb, I always turn the power off at the
mains.
Jewel
the names.
Have a great day!
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From: Jewel
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 6:11 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] electrical power uses cut
The light bulb may be inactive, but I believe that the socket into which you
Jewel,
You're of course correct, there is voltage at the light socket
even when there is nothing in said socket, but there is no current flow
until you, or a less intelligent consumer, sticks something in
the socket.
It's, as max says so well, the difference between voltage and current.
There is
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Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] electrical power uses cut
Gary asked.
Does current flow to a burned out or missing light bulb when the light
switch is turned on?
Then NLG replied.
Yes it does.
I beg to differ. Current can not pass through an open circuit. When a
light bulb
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From: Tom Hodges [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 4:46 PM
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I'm not sure, but I don't think so.
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From: Tom Hodges [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 4:46 PM
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I'm not sure
My power distributor, Duquesne Light, shows your daily electrical usage
for the past 45 days. You can't see your instantaneous usage, but at
least you can see your daily usage. Typically, our lowest usage day is
about half of our highest usage day. Typically ranging anywhere from
about 8 to
I think the debate for unplugging the hot water tank during the day is
much light the argument for lowering the house temp during the day and at
night. There are a whole lot of variables. If the hot water tank is
sufficiently insulated, not having it run during the day won't make a damn
bit
Scott
No, unless there are digital controls with displays that stay on, the motors
solenoids and so on in a conventional' washing machine are not connected to
both sides of the power line until you turn it on. So there should be no
current draw till you pull the knob or whatever.
Of course, it
One thing to remember for the future about all this is being able to be in
control. About 25 years ago there was a trend to put receptacles on switches
in the room for child safety. In a number of the rooms in my house I ran the
power line from the breaker to a 20 amp switch, than to the
Thanks Tom, I wish I could recall what I had heard/read on this topic.
On Oct 26, 2008, at 11:11 AM, Tom Fowle wrote:
Scott
No, unless there are digital controls with displays that stay on,
the motors
solenoids and so on in a conventional' washing machine are not
connected to
both
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I'm not sure, but I don't think so.
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You can be sure that anything which uses an external power supply, cube,
wallwart
and the like is using some power all the time. Feel the wall warts, often
they're quite warm all the time.
At least industry seems to be aware of this waist and newer stuff is better.
If I bought a microwave that
I doubt any but the fanciest washers and dryers would consume power when
off. Unless they show lights or other displays when off I'd not worry about
them.
I bet same with the heat pump, although there might be an active transformer
in that.
Our electric utility, PGE just updated our meters to
I also don't buy the hot water heater idea. When you turn the thermostat
back up, it has to bring the entire tank of water back up to temperature and
I'd bet that uses more energy than leaving it hot. I don't think our 30
year old gas hot water heater ever comes on without usage.
Tom
Of Scott Howell
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 3:04 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] electrical power uses cut
You know this has me thinking. My wife sure wont' go for unplugging
the microwave, but then getting at the plug is a problem considering
it's an over
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Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 10:53 AM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] electrical power uses cut
I had a discussion this mourning about power usage of items in stand-by
mode. There was mention of this on this list before about the power used
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Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 09:03
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] electrical power uses cut
I also don't buy the hot water heater idea. When you turn the thermostat
back up, it has to bring the entire tank of water back up
.
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On Behalf Of chiliblindman
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 10:53 AM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] electrical power uses cut
I had a discussion this mourning about power usage of items
Yes, heat pumps and I'd imagine most any furnace that has a
transformer is still using a slight bit of current. I can hear the
transformer in my heat pump humming very quietly when the switch at
the thermometer is turned to the off position.
On Oct 25, 2008, at 9:59 AM, Tom Fowle wrote:
I
I'm not sure, but I don't think so.
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On Behalf Of Scott Howell
Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 2:42 PM
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Now that does make sense
PM
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I'm not sure, but I don't think so.
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On Behalf Of Scott Howell
Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 2:42 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
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on occasionally.
Blessings,
Tom
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Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 9:03 AM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] electrical power uses cut
I also don't buy
I had a discussion this mourning about power usage of items in stand-by
mode. There was mention of this on this list before about the power used by
appliances when in the off mode. Regardless of what it could be; microwave
oven, computer or TV, most use power when off especially if we
our boiler
or central heat. Hoping to see the results of this effort in the next two gas
bills.
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From: chiliblindman
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 10:53 AM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] electrical power uses cut
I had
power uses cut
I had a discussion this mourning about power usage of items in stand-by
mode. There was mention of this on this list before about the power used by
appliances when in the off mode. Regardless of what it could be; microwave
oven, computer or TV, most use power when off especially
grinning about your daughter moving out Bob. our neighbors son
moved out and they are saving big time as their son was twice a day
in the shower, then the hairdryer and burning the lights half the
night. I like that idea of putting things on power strips. but
question. our microwave
You know this has me thinking. My wife sure wont' go for unplugging
the microwave, but then getting at the plug is a problem considering
it's an over the range model. However, I gather the washer and dryer
although not running will also consume some electricity. I wonder how
much and how
Scott,
I totally support this topic. I just had someone look at our washer
and dryer and there are no lights or displays that are lit when it
isn't in use. I do know that if the dryer door isn't closed, the
light inside will stay on.
My question is that if someone who is sighted leaves the
of an occupied house.
Jewel
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From: Bill Stephan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 8:53 AM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] electrical power uses cut
I guess ultimately, like most things, it comes down to how much we
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