On 3/9/15 23:04 , Uri Guttman wrote:
> i'll be impressed when you have a dead speaker from the future giving a
> talk!
... brains!
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On 7/30/13 24:40 , Bill Ricker wrote:
votes for
drinking.
+1
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On 7/22/13 19:14 , Bill Ricker wrote:
http://anonymoushash.vmbrasseur.com/2013/07/22/the-rising-costs-of-aging-perlers-part-1-the-data/
this was good and interesting. not earthshaking but nicely done.
in the sweep of history [as i know it], i view perl as a stepping stone
on the way
On 1/8/13 22:28 , Bill Ricker wrote:
Wondering why so few (2 and two maybes) RSVP tonight.
"it ain't like it used to be ..."
i don't know that this would help, but is it worth looking into maybe
broadcasting the meeting over the web ... ? boston ruby does something
with google+ and i've watc
On 11/23/2011 01:51 PM, Tom Metro wrote:
chromatic tweeted:
The CPAN has 11.4% more uploaders, 19.4% more modules, and 14.3% more
distributions since *last year's* edition of Modern #perl: The Book.`
Perl use is still growing? (Or at least CPAN is.)
i'd say that's a valid interpretation of t
aloha
On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 2:50 PM, Uri Guttman wrote:
> write to the list if you are
> planning to attend so we can get some sort of head count.
count my head [either one].
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On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 12:02 PM, Randal L. Schwartz
wrote:
> Was there any consensus on a date (tuesday or monday) and/or a place
> for my emergency social meet?
none that i'm aware of ['like herding cats']
not that anyone asked, but what about 'big city' in allston? not
exactly the
hi
On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 9:59 PM, Conor Walsh wrote:
> I haven't checked in recently, but I'm pretty sure that anything he
> has to present on Perl is not interesting from a Perl perspective and
> really only interesting from a "hey I'm a cool webcomic artist"
> perspective.
well, it could be
hey
On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 1:32 AM, Uri Guttman wrote:
> at this point i want to just gauge overall interest
> and possible corporate help. i will get back with more info as i get it.
while i am not a bean counter at my place of employment, i have been
told by management that it is likely we can
hey there
i'm attending ppw [http://pghpw.org/ppw2010/index.html]. any others?
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On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 10:22 PM, Gyepi SAM wrote:
> All these questions are ultimately about what it means to be a programmer.
> We each get to decide what kind of
> programmer we want to be.
this seems right to me, thank you.
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On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Asa Martin wrote:
> Any suggestions from this group as to what would make sense to put effort
> into learning next to make myself more marketable in the Boston area?
social engineering
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On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Laura Bethard wrote:
> I have no formal computer training, but I taught myself to use MySQL
> and Unix as part of my current position.
well, if you can do that, you can learn perl.
i know i'm gonna get nailed for this, but if you're just making small
web-sit
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 9:46 AM, Andy Oram wrote:
> I don't remember any Plan 9 by the Beatles--I think you're thinking of
> Revolution Number 9, the avant-garde influence mash-up (what a premonition of
> modern mash-up techniques!) on the White Album
it was associative not literal. i was making
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 1:51 AM, Tom Metro wrote:
> Yesterday I saw a Toyota Matrix in Watertown with a vanity plate that read
> "PLAN 9." I wondered if it was someone on one of the local tech lists.
yeah- i've seen it too.
> What was the history again? A bad sci-fi film, then an OS?
song by the
hola
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 9:09 PM, Bill Ricker wrote:
> Maybe he's being metaphoric.
well, he is a cunning linguist ...
[ducks]
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On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 2:47 PM, Ronald J Kimball
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Tobias Theodore Kimball-Ware
> son of Ronald Kimball and Martha Ware
congrats- you forked!
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On 6/28/08, Uri Guttman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> what about the sunset
> in allston? we ain't met there for ages.
yeah- sunset sounds good to me ...
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On 6/9/08, Uri Guttman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> what is the opposite of spaghetti code?
fortran cookies
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On 6/5/08, Tom Metro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Umm...so what was your intention?
to just send out a few invites to selected people who were already on linkedin.
> To join, go to:
> http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/41363/6E675551A940
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On 6/5/08, john saylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn.
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I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn.
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Accept john saylor's invite:
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On 1/2/08, Xiong, Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm struggling with CGI::Pretty to implement a button to let users download
> files from a web server.
um, javascript on click handler?
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not really perl but wothehell ...
On 11/12/07, Alex Brelsfoard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have run this test with a cleared cache, and with previous copies in cache.
> the results do not vary.
have you set the no cache headers for the image download? [on the server side]
also, in your e
hi
On 8/14/07, Ronald J Kimball <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Or would people rather do something
> on the weekend?
i attend so infrequently, i do not expect my preference to carry much
weight, but this sunday night [19 aug] would be good for me.
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On 8/2/07, Greg Marr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I just read on a couple MS blogs that Mass. has officially accepted
> the proprietary OOXML format.
'together we can' make a bad technical decision to support a software
monoculture.
boo!
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On 1/31/07, Uri Guttman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> and you (or your
> colleague?) never mentioned modperl before which is a totally different
> animal. apache doesn't usually exit so it will never have the end of
> process cleanup. just another reason i think modperl is a crock. it
> isn't pe
hi
> > "RM" == Richard Morse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> RM> There were approximately 4 slices left. Maybe 5? Two cheese, one
> RM> pepper & onions, one tomato, and possibly one other.
On 1/18/07, Uri Guttman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> we need much better accuracy than that. this is
hi
On 12/1/06, Kate Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So... say you were going to teach a child (or several children) of
> about ten, reasonable technical aptitude, to program using Perl. How
> would you go about it?
well, the main thing would be to connect the programming to another
interest. le
hi
( 05.09.01 14:31 -0400 ) Uri Guttman:
> we could maybe do large talks in 34-101 (just off vassar st behind the
> angular glass entranceway) which holds 325 i think.
well, how important is it to have all the talks in the same area? i
think having talks at different locations [different building
hi
( 05.09.01 00:28 -0400 ) Ronald J Kimball:
> If anyone notices the wiki has been spammed (or you can't load a page,
> which happens when the spammer has inserted hundreds or thousands of
> URLs), please email me. I will fix the problem and clean up the edit
> history.
kwikis can send mail whe
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( 05.07.08 17:57 -0400 ) Ricker, William:
> use Boston::Cambridge;
that would undoubtedly create a disturbance in the force ...
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( 05.07.08 17:40 -0400 ) Uri Guttman:
> few mit people seem to be active in pm. they must all think perl is
> lisp's ugly but smarter step sister! :)
no- they just can't get any corporate money using perl ...
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i'm looking for a ride to YAPC. i'm happy to chip in for costs and am
quite tolerant and unobtrusive. any help is appreciated.
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i'm trying to get my travel arrangements for YAPC all set. it's a bit
early, but i can hope. ideally, i'd go on sunday and come back either
wednesday or thursday. i'd be happy to contribute to gas/tolls/music.
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( 05.05.24 15:07 -0400 ) Drew Taylor:
> Is perl on the way out in Boston?
i hope not.
there have been threads on the mod_perl list about advocacy. and how
java is taking over a lot. the bean counters never liked open source
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> > ( 05.03.01 14:21 -0500 ) Greg London:
> >> What if O'Reilley (or someone) set up a website that
> >> did free (or low cost) online certification?
> John Saylor said:
> > what if you did that.
( 05.03.01 15:59 -0500 ) Greg London:
> brilliant. Rat
hi
( 05.03.01 14:21 -0500 ) Greg London:
> What if O'Reilley (or someone) set up a website that
> did free (or low cost) online certification?
what if you did that.
> What it requires is a community spirit,
> and a little bit of generousity from its
> members to grant it the possibility of being
hi
( 05.02.28 20:03 -0500 ) John Redford:
> To put it extremely bluntly: certifications are socialist. People who
> believe in certifications have the same naïf mentality as people who
> believe in socialism.
some socialists [more or less]:
emma goldman
che guevara
leon trotsky
eugene debs
i d
hi
( 05.02.28 21:07 -0500 ) James Linden Rose, III:
> However Mr. Shwartz's model of the problem does not reflect majority
> opinion with respect to the breadth of the issue, (especially as it
> seems to be peppered with idealism and anti-capitalism).
whoa- idealism and anti-capitalism
smells lik
hi
( 05.02.25 16:56 -0500 ) James Linden Rose, III:
> Certification for Perl will certainly NOT raise the intellectual bar
> of its practitioners, but it will certainly make many more people into
> converts on both the programmer and the manager side of the equation.
converts to what- perl or cer
hi
( 05.02.25 17:13 -0500 ) Greg London:
> So, if Certification convinces Mike to allow
> perl, and Eve isn't an idiot, it's an overall win.
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( 05.02.25 15:51 -0500 ) James Linden Rose, III:
> What Perl is really lacking is a widely recognized, widely accessible
> certification program.
hmm ...
i don't think this would help much. besides, it goes against TMTOWTDI [a
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( 05.02.25 08:28 -0500 ) Tolkin, Steve:
> Does anyone have additional details, e.g. the names of the projects,
> number of servers, number of users, estimated cost, estimated savings by
> using perl, etc.
there's a list of mod_perl 'success' stories here:
http://perl.apache.org/outstanding/sit
hi
( 05.02.22 14:38 -0800 ) Ranga Nathan:
> I must add that this is a corporate environment.
i guess you should also add 'brain-dead' corporate environment [or maybe
that's just implied].
> How can I rebut this arguement in a better way?
doesn't seem too logical and argument. so you can't use
Greg London:
> > > > Would it be any less secure than having the user
> > > > set up an account and their own password?
> John Saylor wrote:
> > yes, more prone to spoofing since it's only one piece of info [trakcing
> > number] instead of 2 [usernam
hi
( 05.02.07 16:04 -0500 ) Greg London:
> I'll buy pizza for a perlmonger meeting if I can get a
> definite yes/no answer on these questions.
> > could the site give him a tracking number / one-time password
> > so he could check the status of his order and report a problem?
yes
> > Would it b
hi
( 05.02.07 10:48 -0500 ) Greg London:
> For a one-time buyer, going to a website to purchase
> something, it seems like needless overhead to ask them
> to create an account, make up a password (and figure out
> a way to remember it), when they're only going to ever
> make one purchase.
yes, bu
hi
( 04.12.29 13:13 -0800 ) Palit, Nilanjan:
> Now, regarding Tom Metro's original suggestion for using an MD5 Digest:
> I read that the original MD5 algorithm has known issues with collisions.
i think it's more that there is a way to produce a collision while
altering the file being hashed. this
hi
( 04.12.07 14:13 -0600 ) Alex Brelsfoard:
> But say I want to upload all of the pictures from a wedding or
> something.
zip them up into one file. [pre-process]
i don't think the browser file selection controls are anywhere near as
flexible as local graphical file selection controls. i think
hi
( 04.11.03 21:29 -0800 ) Ranga Nathan:
> Needless to say 99% is spam!
> I have some 28MB worth of mail sitting somewhere, waiting to be
> delivered. I want that 28MB mail to be filtered and forwarded to my
> cox.net address.
so 28MB * 0.99 = 27.72MB of SPAM, 0.28MB of HAM
let's say the avera
hi
( 04.08.06 11:11 -0400 ) Greg London:
> I usually use OpenOffice to create my html.
hmm ...
> Do I need a perl script that takes my html and inserts the metadata
> into it? Or can I do it in OO?
just use a text editor [vim, notepad, the emacs operating system,
whatever] and cut and paste.
hi
( 04.08.05 19:31 -0400 ) Uri Guttman:
> at least we should have meeting info and directions, talk subjects,
> a who's who page of members, job stuff?, boston perl things (what??),
> etc.
maybe some of those things go on the main web site- don't need to
duplicate lists. wiki is better for putti
hi
i think setting up a wiki of somekind is a great idea. it can even be a
link off of http://boston.pm.org/ if the people who own that site want
to maintain some independence and control.
( 04.08.05 10:19 -0400 ) David:
> These two issues may indicate that a wiki which allows an admin
> group an
hi
( 04.08.03 17:57 -0400 ) Ron Newman:
> die "Death by chocolate\n";
could be the newline at the end.
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( 04.08.03 10:28 -0400 ) Sean Quinlan:
> Now, I think someone mentioned mod_perl. mod_perl and CGI.pm are not, to
> the best of my knowledge, exclusive.
no, they are not. however, they both have their own unique file upload
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( 04.08.02 19:32 -0400 ) Alex Brelsfoard:
> But I am a bit curious to know if there is a way to do this without
> using CGI.pm.
sure, mod_perl [much faster, lighter]. the interface is a bit better
than CGI.pm, but not a whole lot. i just think it's a tricky thing to be
doing anyway [uploading
hi
( 04.07.16 14:09 -0400 ) James Eshelman:
> POE--perl object environment. I'm thinking of using it and would love
> to hear case stories from any who have -- both pleasures and pitfalls.
i used it to write an irc monitor once. it was pretty nice. i'm sure
uri's got something to say, since i th
hi
( 04.07.16 08:26 -0400 ) William Goedicke:
> And, pure and simple, I can't get the syntax right.
i'd do this.
my $hr = {
'NAME'=>$results[0],
'ID'=>$id,
'TYPE'=>$results[1],
'TARGETFIELD'=>$id+10
};
push ( @{ $VAR1->{TARGETTABLE}->{SOURCET
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( 04.07.07 18:57 -0400 ) Arun Nagarajan:
> I know there were a lot of offers for meeting space posted previously
> for the Boston PM crew - I was wondering if any of that will still be
> available for a 20 person J2ME SIG?
java programmers need help from perl programmers? oh right- happens all
hi
not having seen the code, this is a guess.
( 04.06.22 22:54 -0400 ) Bob Mariotti:
> I have a perl program that extracts data from a report file. Some of
> the fields (columns) are monetary with a trailing sign (i.e: 1,234.56-).
> However, I am having problems with sign handling. Can anyone
hi
( 04.06.15 23:48 -0400 ) Chris Devers:
> * Time::Space::Continuum
> http://damian.conway.org/Seminars//TimeSpace.html
space is the place ...
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( 04.06.07 13:35 -0700 ) Ranga Nathan:
> But why should the compiler care if I used a variable only once? Why does
> it suspect it as a typo? I think I need to do something here to satisfy
> the compiler. But I am not sure what it is!
perldoc perllexwarn
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( 04.05.12 12:19 -0700 ) Ranga Nathan:
> Any recommendations for a web-based ftp client for our users?
most web browsers 'speak' FTP [like they do HTML]. just use the correct
URL and you should be all set.
ftp://ftp.epicsol.org/pub/epic/EPIC5-ALPHA/
if you need a login, you can also embed thi
hi
( 04.05.06 11:46 -0400 ) Philipp Hanes:
> I use MS Outlook 2000 (not much choice at the office).
that's a big problem. outlook is the most massively broken piece of
software released by microsoft [and *that's* saying something]. it's
like complaining that your scooter won't move very fast in a
hi
( 04.05.05 21:25 -0400 ) Chris Devers:
> Boston.pm's mail is served by Mailman, right? Does Mailman have a way to
> filter [presumably unsubscribed] incoming mail by network?
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( 04.04.13 00:20 -0400 ) Uri Guttman:
> i also want to thank andrew (who is/was on this list) for all the work
> and free beer/pizza over the years.
i'll join in on those thanks. i only came to a few meetings there, but
it was very nice of boston.com to extend themselves like that.
> it's on
hi
( 04.02.16 14:08 -0800 ) Ranga Nathan:
> Has anyone created any application that uses secure email using GPG pr
> PGP?
mutt
> I wonder if I can generate a certificate that the recipient can
> install for encrypting/decrypting mail from me. I was thinking of
> using OpenSSL to generate the cer
hi
( 04.01.24 16:47 -0800 ) steve:
> Hey, am I the only one to be burned by a CPAN module that turned out
> to be a joke?
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( 04.01.24 12:58 -0800 ) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> I've been working on a perl training document
> I was planning on putting it on CPAN
i'm not sure there's even a place for it there. maybe use.perl.org?
> do people use the perl license for their
> documentation too?
people do all kinds of things
hi
Bob Mariotti wrote:
I still have one remaining issue that I have come up against a wall
with. That issue is validating the remote server's certificate.
what kind of validation do you want to do?
- check the cert chain
- get CRLs
- OLCP [whatever ...]
- make sure date is valid
while there are
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( 03.12.16 13:06 -0500 ) Sean Quinlan:
> Anyone interested in a pub meet over the holidays?
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( 03.11.11 09:20 -0500 ) James Sullivan:
> Also i believe there's some sort of security in Outlook that prevents
> reading of files off your disks.
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( 03.10.31 17:54 -0500 ) Chris Braiotta:
> That makes sense, and was something I finally figured out, but didn't
> seem to help.
i think you have more of a problem with ssh authorization and key
management than with perl. crypto is not always easy [if it's going to
be effective]. i think you a
hi
( 03.10.31 14:36 -0500 ) Chris Braiotta:
> When I try to log into my machine via the scrupt, it just returns
> "Permission denied at ./test.pl line 10".
it's not clear to me what kind of permission is denied.
who does the script run as? does that user have permission to read the
file?
and w
hi
( 03.10.23 13:38 -0700 ) Ranga Nathan:
> Looks like both ApacheSSL and mod_ssl work only with Apache 1.3
i don't think so:
http://httpd.apache.org/docs-2.0/mod/mod_ssl.html
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( 03.08.04 17:12 -0400 ) Joel Gwynn:
> we're looking for a fast, customizable de-duping solution.
> I was thinking there might be some perl stuff out there,
really, any perl programmer worth hiring should be able to do this while
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> On Tuesday, August 5, 2003, at 09:07 AM, John Saylor wrote:
> >really, any perl programmer worth hiring should be able to do this while
> >sleeping.
( 03.08.05 19:21 +0100 ) David Cantrell:
> No, it's quite a hard problem.
i guess it depends on the way the problem i
hi
( 03.07.09 22:20 -0400 ) Chris Devers:
> I wish I could think of better metaphors for this, because intuitively
> it seems clear to me that there are plenty of examples of things that
> are very complex and yet still not necessarily challenging.
this seems too one dimentional- i think most thi
hi
( 03.07.08 21:48 -0400 ) William Goedicke:
> [X]emacs is nigh ultimately functioal and free.
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( 03.07.03 08:18 -0400 ) Charles Reitzel:
> A programmer's editor is his or her hammer.
while i have seen code written like that, i prefer to think of it as a
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( 03.07.02 21:25 -0400 ) John Sequeira:
> If I had a choice, though, I would make life really simple and just
> write a COM control or Windows Script Component.
Down with Big Brother!
Down with Big Brother!
Down with Big Brother!
Down with Big Brother!
Down with Big Brother!
Down with Big B
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( 03.06.13 16:00 -0700 ) Ranga Nathan:
> But seeing the unashamed arrogance that pervades software industry and
> the gullibility of big corporations, I wonder if people realize the
> cost of proprietary software to the society at large.
very unlikely. stallman, for all his personal idiosynchr
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( 03.06.03 09:39 -0400 ) Kevin Jackson-Mead:
> "spice" eq "spouses"
yikes- i can only handle 1 ...
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( 03.04.01 07:27 -0500 ) John Mahoney:
> It seems to me that this April Fool's joke is detrimental
> to perl, CPAN, and open source in general.
that must be because you're missing a sense of humor.
> And, please, lets not joke about invasions and war.
well, i'm not going to go as far as you,
hi
( 03.03.14 09:13 -0500 ) Tolkin, Steve:
> Please advise me as to how to proceed.
i think you can email either damian or larry [psuedo-] directly. or post
something on perlmonks.org.
or you can start your own fork of the perl code- that's one of the
benefits of open source.
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( 03.03.02 09:13 -0500 ) Joel Gwynn:
> What should the permissions be so that the cgi script running on the
> web server can read the file, but random users on the system can't?
man chmod
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( 03.02.27 08:03 -0500 ) Bob Mariotti:
> When the user select the data desired to be downloaded from the page our
> perl programs issue a content-type: directive.
have you tried:
application/octet-stream
and using the content-disposition header?
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( 03.02.11 10:35 -0500 ) Wizard:
> I was hoping that this wouldn't have been such a nightmare.
dude- the nightmare is only beginning ...
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i wrote:
> >billg@3475962302
( 03.02.11 10:06 -0500 ) Richard Morse:
> But is that a port number?
no, it's an IP number changed into an integer [dword]
and for my next trick ...
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( 03.02.11 09:42 -0500 ) Wizard:
> The problem is that last one with DOMAIN.CC format.
trust me, there are legit addresses in all kinds of weird permutations
of RFC 822. also, you wouldn't be the first person trying to solve this
problem.
i think the perl cookbook has something [and a disclai
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( 03.02.04 23:35 -0500 ) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> Linux started to lock up at different
> stages about a month or so ago.
anything in /var/log to explain the lock up?
> Short of calling Penguin Computing and buying
> a new system, does anyone have any cheaper
> ideas?
freeBSD?
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( 03.01.17 13:56 -0500 ) Dan Sugalski:
> Typeglobs are all that's in symbol tables. You need to look in the
> globs if you want to get values.
But how do I do this? Do I open () them? Do I dereference them? I've
been digging through the camel book [and writing test scripts] without
success. A
Hi
I have a project where I am trying to dump all the variable names and
values in a given package namespace. I can get all the variable names
OK, it's just getting the values from those names that I am not able to
do.
I have some code like this:
foreach $key ( keys %main::Package:: ) {
$val =
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( 02.12.04 21:31 -0600 ) Elaine -HFB- Ashton:
> How about an agenda of Beer and Holiday cheer? :)
Or caffiene and seasonal angst.
Whichever feels best.
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( 02.11.12 19:51 -0500 ) David Turner:
> "Once a man has tasted freedom he will never be content to
> be a slave." - Walt Disney
I thought it was like this:
"Once an corporation has tasted revenue from copyrighted images, they
will never be content to let them into the public domain." -Walt D
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( 02.11.04 21:59 -0500 ) James Eshelman:
> I credit the Open Source movement for forcing this much of a
> concession to "openness".
I credit m$ with being pig headed bastards. And with .NET [and
palladium] they own your ass! [and hard drive, video system, and so on]
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( 02.10.11 09:27 -0400 ) Mark Aisenberg:
> A useful albeit unsexy project that would be interesting to take on
> would be to come up with a style and best-practices guide to Perl
> coding. Does anyone have any links to starting brief, readable starting
> points: guides to Perl formatting, OO
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( 02.10.10 17:56 -0400 ) Chris Devers:
> The bigger problem with these is all the extra letters. Look how many
> times the letter E shows up in those examples!
That would be a property of our language. Cryptographers make use of
frequency tables to solve simple encodings and different language
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( 02.10.10 17:53 -0500 ) David Turner:
> Is, "Colorless green ideas sleep furiously." an English sentence
> (parsable, but semantically garbage)? What about "Fry apples the
> Stallman." (English words, unparsable). "My three-cornered hat has four
> corners." (internally inconsistent)
I think
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