On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Palit, Nilanjan
wrote:
>> From: Ben Tilly [mailto:bti...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 11:59 AM
>
>> It appears that you didn't read what I wrote, then launched a rant
>> that would be better aimed at someone else.I say this because I had
>> linked to
On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 08:59 -0600, Palit, Nilanjan wrote:
> I think it is really naïve to blame a tool for an outcome -- it's just as
> silly as blaming poor driving on cars/roads rather than the drivers!
Please don't take this as trying to argue against your point, but this
analogy has flaws.
David Cantrell wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 10:31:29PM -0400, Federico Lucifredi wrote:
>
>> True, but I have not yet done a single animated slide in my life.
>> Bullets, code and occasionally pictures slapped on a background are all
>> I need. If I can start writing my slides in text
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 7:59 AM, Palit, Nilanjan
wrote:>>> From: Ben Tilly>> Sent: Monday,
April 06, 2009 10:34 AM
>>
>> Personally I don't like the way that Powerpoint is used because it
>> encourages oversimplification. Also I think that spending great
>> energy on fancy presentations for
On Apr 6, 2009, at 11:08 AM, Bob Freeman wrote:
Anyone want to 'go there' on Tufte's thoughts on PowerPoint?
Having attended a Tufte Tirade (and I loved every minute of it!), I'd
say I would agree with his points when it comes to engineering. For
my part, I would take a hybrid approach:
Anyone want to 'go there' on Tufte's thoughts on PowerPoint?
;-)
Bob
On Apr 6, 2009, at 10:33 AM, Ben Tilly wrote:
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 4:42 AM, David Cantrell
wrote:
On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 10:31:29PM -0400, Federico Lucifredi wrote:
True, but I have not yet done a single animated
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 4:42 AM, David Cantrell wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 10:31:29PM -0400, Federico Lucifredi wrote:
>
>> True, but I have not yet done a single animated slide in my life.
>> Bullets, code and occasionally pictures slapped on a background are all
>> I need. If I can start
On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 10:31:29PM -0400, Federico Lucifredi wrote:
> True, but I have not yet done a single animated slide in my life.
> Bullets, code and occasionally pictures slapped on a background are all
> I need. If I can start writing my slides in text templates, my personal
>
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Jerrad Pierce wrote:
> I dunno about platypus versatility so much as contentder for
> "designed by committee," but I opted not to proffer it earlier
> because it's the mascot of DarwinOS (OSS OSX core).
>
> http://www.gnu-darwin.org/
>
> Definitely cute though.
I dunno about platypus versatility so much as contentder for
"designed by committee," but I opted not to proffer it earlier
because it's the mascot of DarwinOS (OSS OSX core).
http://www.gnu-darwin.org/
Definitely cute though.
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On Friday 03 April 2009 13:38:09 Nick Patch wrote:
> > Other than the camel, goats or mules probably come closest to
> > representing Perl's versatility I think. Or maybe a mina bird, for it's
> > mimicry abilities; everything's a dialect of Perl 6; and general
> > cleverness.
A platypus would be
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Jerrad Pierce wrote:
> >I think the Chameleon surely is a qualified candidate for the Perl6 Mascot
> job
> Indeed, and it keeps the "camel" root.
> A case could also be made for its mouth harboring a natural whip.
>
> Perhaps difficult to make cuddly/effeminate
>I think the Chameleon surely is a qualified candidate for the Perl6 Mascot job
Indeed, and it keeps the "camel" root.
A case could also be made for its mouth harboring a natural whip.
Perhaps difficult to make cuddly/effeminate though,
which seems to be one of his main goals.
There's also the
> From: boston-pm-bounces+nilanjan.palit=intel@mail.pm.org
> [mailto:boston-pm-bounces+nilanjan.palit=intel@mail.pm.org] On Behalf Of
> Jerrad Pierce
> Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 12:35 PM
> Other than the camel, goats or mules probably come closest to representing
> Perl's
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Charlie wrote:
> P-Rex is good!
>
> After all Perl regex _is_ the king of regex. All other languages, and many
> tools, have adopted it, akaik.
>
> Also, it is not sterile, easy to say and will look danged good on O'Reilly
> book covers.
>
> Dinosaur references
P-Rex & GEE-WHIZ are brilliant.
For a language logo, I'd love to go with a Plush Cthulhu and the motto,
"Perl: it only looks scary from a distance!"
[image: Toy Vault 12 " Cthulhu Plush Toy]
[Yes, I know there are copyright issues but, let's be honest ... this is
never going to happen.]
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Original message
>Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 12:58:55 -0400
>From: "Bye, Roger"
>Subject: Re: [Boston.pm] Larry's MIT talk
>To: "L-boston-pm"
>
>On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Duane Bronson
>wrote:
>
>> Ho
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Jerrad Pierce wrote:
> In a similar vein, a new mascot for perl isn't very easy to come up with.
> Nevertheless, an anime butterfly doesn't do it for me, even if the wings
> do include the characters "P" and "6."
>
> Other than the camel, goats or mules probably
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Duane Bronson
wrote:
> However, "perl6's pattern matching"
> doesn't quite roll off the tongue as you might expect. Surely the
perl
> community can help him come up with a good marketing term that puts
perl6 on
> the map.
>
P-Rex
(the king of pattern
>Surely the perl community can help him come up with a good marketing term
>that puts perl6 on the map
regulexpressions?
In a similar vein, a new mascot for perl isn't very easy to come up with.
Nevertheless, an anime butterfly doesn't do it for me, even if the wings
do include the characters
Regex 6.0
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Stephen Jarjoura wrote:
> How about ...
>
> Perls Extended Pattern Matching / Extraction Dialect
> PEPMED
>
> (and it's logo could be a cute little red pill doing jumping jacks)
>
> --
> Stephen A. Jarjoura
> http://runester.com
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 3,
How about ...
Perls Extended Pattern Matching / Extraction Dialect
PEPMED
(and it's logo could be a cute little red pill doing jumping jacks)
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http://runester.com
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Duane Bronson wrote:
> Nice summary. Thanks for posting.
>
> He also
Nice summary. Thanks for posting.
He also mentioned that he has not come up with a good name for the new
pattern matching syntax that is meant to replace perl5's regex. I
applaud this renaming as "regex" (regular expression) is not very
regular since it varies so much from grep/vim/sed/etc.
> "rl" == rob levy writes:
rl> For reasons I think MJD explains the best (
rl> http://lists.warhead.org.uk/ pipermail/iwe/2005-July/000130.html )
rl> Perl's macros will never be quite nearly as good as CL's defmacro
rl> or even Scheme's hygenic macros. So obviously Perl's syntax is
>At the MIT talk I almost asked a question "can you talk a little about the
>macro system" but it seemed like kind of an unrealistic request for the QA
>section so I chickened out.
Well, it would have been better than the drawn-out query about Fortress,
and wouldn't have prompted me to leave ;-)
For reasons I think MJD explains the best (
http://lists.warhead.org.uk/pipermail/iwe/2005-July/000130.html ) Perl's
macros will never be quite nearly as good as CL's defmacro or even Scheme's
hygenic macros. So obviously Perl's syntax is way too complex for
Lisp-quality metaprogramming, but I
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 12:07 AM, Bob Rogers wrote:
> Larry also mentioned that the Perl 6 MOP will support both
> class-based and instance-based inheritance -- and that's all he said. I
> do not understand how the two can work together.
having built one one the other, I'd say it all depends
From: Tom Metro
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 22:12:00 -0400
Uri Guttman wrote:
> ...much of the rest was fancy ops and OO stuff...
I remember the "fancy ops" but I don't remember much to do with OO,
aside from some syntax variations (arrow changes to dot). I've actually
seen
Ricker, William wrote:
>>> He actually had nearly 500 slides.
>> And all in XUL, allegedly :-)
>
> There are a couple Perl based tools to generate Xul slideshows from an
> outline. I hope he used one of those, would like to know which. Probably can
> find out with google-fu, we won't be the
> "TM" == Tom Metro writes:
>> ...but the rules engine is new ground...
TM> I figured you'd take note of that, given your rules engine work.
very different rules engines. mine was about async logical flow
control. larry's is grammar. i still haven't come up with a final name
for mine
Uri Guttman wrote:
i would say more like 100 but i didn't try to make a better counting.
I could see 2/3rds of the hall and did a partial head count. The right
had 40 people, and the center had over 50, while the left, where I was
seated, seemed more sparsely populated, so I estimated 120
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 9:41 PM, Jerrad Pierce wrote:
> I was also there, as was lurking member Alex Vandiver.
> --
I went to both talks, and am glad I did. The openings were hilarious and
hearing the perl6 stuff two nights in a row has inspired me to start playing
with rakudo (after my last
I was also there, as was lurking member Alex Vandiver.
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On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Tom Metro wrote:
> I attended the MIT presentation. I didn't notice many Boston.pm-ers there,
> aside from Uri, of course,
I looked right at you!
I was sitting between Bob R and Duane B a couple rows higher than you,
to your right (stage left), just on the center
>> He actually had nearly 500 slides.
> And all in XUL, allegedly :-)
There are a couple Perl based tools to generate Xul slideshows from an outline.
I hope he used one of those, would like to know which. Probably can find out
with google-fu, we won't be the first to ask.
When the toolchain
Sartak wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Stephen Jarjoura wrote:
>> I enjoyed the great deal of humor, including the inside jokes. And, if there
>> were 120..150 people present, then that's also the approximate card count
>> for his slide deck.
>
> He actually had nearly 500 slides.
And
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Stephen Jarjoura wrote:
> I enjoyed the great deal of humor, including the inside jokes. And, if there
> were 120..150 people present, then that's also the approximate card count
> for his slide deck.
He actually had nearly 500 slides.
Shawn
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Tom Metro wrote:
> I attended the MIT presentation. I didn't notice many Boston.pm-ers there,
I was there with a co-worker, but I don't come to many meetings.
> Larry made a request for people to download and test the current Perl 6
> prototypes. (Someone chime
Just for the record, both I and a co-worker were there as well. I mostly
lurk on the list as there is little I can contribute ... but I'm a
Boston.PM'er, too!
I enjoyed the great deal of humor, including the inside jokes. And, if there
were 120..150 people present, then that's also the
> "TM" == Tom Metro writes:
TM> I attended the MIT presentation. I didn't notice many Boston.pm-ers
TM> there, aside from Uri, of course, who made a call for MIT faculty and
TM> staff to talk to him about YAPC (I don't think he got any takers,
TM> unfortunately; maybe we should have
flucifr...@acm.org wrote:
The first part was very fun, the second was computer language porn -
several of the non-compiler crowd ran on that :)
Lots of people, the hall was half full.
I attended the MIT presentation. I didn't notice many Boston.pm-ers
there, aside from Uri, of course, who
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 3:16 PM, rob levy wrote:
> If I remember correctly, in one of his songs he refer to Javascript, but no
> mention of Perl that I am aware of.
Of course not.
That would be telling, wouldn't it?
BCNU.
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Al less annoying.
If I remember correctly, in one of his songs he refer
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Martin Owens wrote:
> Larry Wall?
Yeah, you know -- the guy that first wrote Perl and (highly
suspiciously, I think) has never been seen in the same room with Weird
Al Yankovich?
http://domm.plix.at/talks/2004_vienna_perl_culture/larry_wall.jpg
> "MO" == Martin Owens writes:
MO> Larry Wall?
yes. have any of you been reading this list? there was a thread about
his talks at harvard and mit. :)
uri
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Larry Wall?
On Thu, 2009-03-26 at 14:27 -0400, Steve Scaffidi wrote:
> I definitely plan on coming!
>
> On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 12:27 PM, Uri Guttman wrote:
>
> >
> > just to confirm, larry's talk at mit will be at:
> >
> > april 1, 4:30pm
> > room 34-101
> >
> > who is planning on attending?
I'm planning to go to either the Harvard (3/31) or MIT (4/1) talks.
Randy
Steve Scaffidi wrote:
> I definitely plan on coming!
>
> On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 12:27 PM, Uri Guttman wrote:
>
>
>> just to confirm, larry's talk at mit will be at:
>>
>> april 1, 4:30pm
>> room 34-101
>>
>> who is
I definitely plan on coming!
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 12:27 PM, Uri Guttman wrote:
>
> just to confirm, larry's talk at mit will be at:
>
> april 1, 4:30pm
> room 34-101
>
> who is planning on attending? i will be there.
>
> i am also asking sipb for a minute (and maybe larry will help me) to
>
just to confirm, larry's talk at mit will be at:
april 1, 4:30pm
room 34-101
who is planning on attending? i will be there.
i am also asking sipb for a minute (and maybe larry will help me) to
plug y...@mit and try to find a sponsor from the crowd or people they
know. so any friendly faces in
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