On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 11:39:09PM -0500, John D. Giorgis wrote:
At 05:01 PM 3/11/2003 + Robert J. Chassell wrote:
Or should decision making be based on population, so that China and
India, gain power, and smaller states, like France or the US, have
less? The `one adult, one vote' method
Erik Reuter wrote:
So question Bush's sincerity, I certainly don't trust
him. But whatever his motives, it is hard for me to
imagine him botching the job so much
that the people of Iraq are not much better off in
the long run.
Not that I believe
On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 09:14:19AM -0300, Alberto Monteiro wrote:
Erik Reuter wrote:
So question Bush's sincerity, I certainly don't trust
him. But whatever his motives, it is hard for me to
imagine him botching the job so much
that the people of
JDG wrote:
Lastly, it again doesn't account for differences in
population. Once China and India begin to develop,
they would account for a very disproportionate share
of world GDP - and a government dominated by India
and China could easily have very little legitimacy
elsewhere.
Dan Minette wrote:
Germany has proportional representation. If there
are two big parties, each with 47.5% of the
legislature, then a party with 5% can claim a pretty
high price to make one of the two parties the top dog.
But, OTOH, I guess Germany elects the parliamentary
On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 09:48:18AM -0300, Alberto Monteiro wrote:
But if the oil prices were reduced by a factor of 2 or 3, would his
electors care about how many iraqis were being killed?
Yes.
Worse: would the press care about them?
Yes.
How many people die every day of AIDS in Africa
From: Reggie Bautista [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/art-main.html?2003-03/12/09.15.tv
or
http://makeashorterlink.com/?L287219C3
Digital Production Solutions, a division of IDT Media, has acquired two
stories by late Star Trek creator Gene Roddenberry to turn into 3-D
animated
At 08:21 AM 3/13/03 -0500, Erik Reuter wrote:
On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 09:48:18AM -0300, Alberto Monteiro wrote:
But if the oil prices were reduced by a factor of 2 or 3, would his
electors care about how many iraqis were being killed?
Yes.
Worse: would the press care about them?
Yes.
How
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Subject: Re: Who is the sheriff?
Dan Minette wrote:
Germany has proportional representation. If there
are two big parties, each with
On 13 Mar 2003 at 8:00, Dan Minette wrote:
Dan Minette wrote:
Germany has proportional representation. If there
are two big parties, each with 47.5% of the
legislature, then a party with 5% can claim a pretty
high price to make one of the two parties the top dog.
But, OTOH,
On Thursday, March 13, 2003, at 06:24 am, J. van Baardwijk wrote:
At 16:27 12-03-03 -0600, Reggie Bautista wrote:
I've found some contradictory info on this question on the internet
and thought I'd take advantage of all the technical expertise on this
list to see if I can get a definitive
http://www.salon.com/ent/tv/feature/2003/03/13/farscape/index.html
Farscape
Can Farscape fans reinvent TV?
When the Sci Fi Channel canceled Farscape, angry fans launched the usual
protest movement. Now they're dreaming of a rebellion that could overthrow
TV empires.
If anyone would like a copy
Dan Minette wrote:
I just saw a TV ad for this new movie THE CORE. And I'm afraid I now
see more similarities with EARTH than I did the first time a synopsis
came out.
So let's discuss it. Do any of you have access to more information
about this awful thing? A web site? A list of
From: Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ringo Starr is headed to Last Call with Carson Daly on March
24th
Show: Total Request Live (TRL)
Episode: 03/25/2003
Network: (MTV) Music Television
Date: Tuesday - March 25, 2003
Time: 04:00 pm - 05:00 pm ET
Featured Artists
Ringo
David Hobby wrote:
Poor actors! I hope they get well paid--they'll certainly need
it to make up for the damage to their careers. Alfre Woodard?
I remember her in Passionfish...
I remember her in a Star Trek movie. :)
Julia
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Big Brother and your browser
By Declan McCullagh
March 3, 2003, 4:00 AM PT
WASHINGTON--The U.S. Justice Department is experimenting with an Internet
crime-fighting technique that raises novel legal, technical and privacy
concerns.
The tactic: domain
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/storydisplay.cfm?storyID=3100876thesection=news
thesubsection=world
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To: Brin-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: media power
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 10:47:05 -0600
http://www.dailystar.com.lb/12_03_03/art4.asp
The Daily Star is a paper from Lebanon. Wasn't immediately discernable from
the
From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: brin: Re: a call to the irregulars!
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 10:54:31 -0600
David Hobby wrote:
Poor actors! I hope they get well paid--they'll certainly
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To: Brin-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Insane prisoner ordered to take drugs so he can be legally
executed Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 11:23:41 -0600
Andrew Crystall wrote:
How partial-list works:
You have x districts. Each elects an MP. Once all MP's from the
districts are elected, you look at the percentage of votes. You chuck
out all parties with less than 5% of the vote (to keep the lunatic
fringe out). (...)
Hmmm...
http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2003/03/12/spectrum/index.html
The myth of interference
Internet architect David Reed explains how bad science created the
broadcast industry.
- - - - - - - - - - - -
By David Weinberger
March 12, 2003 | There's a reason our television sets so outgun us,
As for talking of relief, I've spent this morning the five worst minutes
of my life between the time I've received a phone call telling me that
my daughter had been knocked down by a car in her way to school and the
time I arrived on scene seeing that she had nothing life threatening.
Then another
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/story.jsp?story=386524
Pentagon seeks freedom to pollute land, air and sea By Andrew Gumbel in
Los Angeles
13 March 2003
The Pentagon is quietly seeking exemptions from some of America's main
environmental laws, which would give the military free
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As for talking of relief, I've spent this morning the five worst minutes
of my life between the time I've received a phone call telling me that
my daughter had been knocked down by a car in her way to school and the
time I arrived on scene seeing that she had nothing
The Fool wrote:
http://www.dailystar.com.lb/12_03_03/art4.asp
Sounds like they need someone to go in and thoroughly debunk.
Example of debunking too long after the fact in an extreme case:
http://www.cornerstonemag.com/features/iss098/warnke_response/skeptical.htm
In a message dated 3/13/03 12:14:26 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As for talking of relief, I've spent this morning the five worst minutes
of my life between the time I've received a phone call telling me that
my daughter had been
Here's the opinion of someone bothered by the French-bashing jokes
currently prevalent in the US:
http://www.austin360.com/auto_docs/epaper/editions/thursday/life_entertainment_1.html
Julia
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On 13 Mar 2003 at 14:47, Alberto Monteiro wrote:
Andrew Crystall wrote:
How partial-list works:
You have x districts. Each elects an MP. Once all MP's from the
districts are elected, you look at the percentage of votes. You
chuck out all parties with less than 5% of the vote
http://www.austin360.com/auto_docs/epaper/editions/thursday/life_entertainment_1.html
Julia
But, Julia, this article was absurd. The criticism of
France isn't because they disagree with us. The
Russians disagree with us - no one is going around
making Russian jokes. The criticism is
At 19:15 2003-03-13 +0100, Jean-Marc wrote:
As for talking of relief, I've spent this morning the five worst minutes
of my life between the time I've received a phone call telling me that
my daughter had been knocked down by a car in her way to school and the
time I arrived on scene seeing that
J.D. Giorgis wrote:
The French Connection
By WILLIAM SAFIRE
John, a small request: you often post articles here without referencing where
they came from. Whether's it's from a print pulication or online or wherever, I
think it'd be very useful to know its source.
When you post an article,
http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2003/3/10/2361/49952
Murdoch helps the US information war (Media)
By QuantumG
Wed Mar 12th, 2003 at 01:21:24 PM EST
Many people, both in America and around the world, have forgotten about
a war the US fought in Africa in the early 1990s. Blood spilled in the
On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 07:32:57PM +, William T Goodall wrote:
America could become another African continent.
Only if it's moved slightly...
Lindner, who has a master's degree in divinity, said later that he was
?! He's a part time god? What's that about?
``They don't believe that
On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 02:53:33PM -0600, Marvin Long, Jr. wrote:
Shit! That bastard on S. Congress sold me some bad PC...
Uh, never mind.
See, you should be getting your drugs from QVC...
--
Paul
... you haven't seen untidiness until you've seen a room where the gravity
has failed twice
On Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 08:41:39AM -0500, Jon Gabriel wrote:
He was jailed on suspicion of felony menacing, reckless endangerment and
the prohibited use of weapons.
Menacing? It's a crime to threaten your computer? Uh-oh...
--
Paul
With searching comes loss
Gautam,
I didn't say I agreed with the article. I just put it out there for
commentary. I thought of some of your points as I was reading it in the
print paper earlier today.
I'm wondering what everyone *else* thinks.
Myself, I'm mostly disturbed by the fact that the entire French people
is
--- Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Gautam,
I didn't say I agreed with the article. I just put
it out there for
commentary. I thought of some of your points as I
was reading it in the
print paper earlier today.
I'm wondering what everyone *else* thinks.
Myself, I'm mostly
Yeah. So long as it is VERY bad.
But it makes you sigh. The number of stupid producers appears to be
nearly infinite.
Thanks, all.
db
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In a message dated 3/13/2003 2:12:25 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Yeah. So long as it is VERY bad.
But it makes you sigh. The number of stupid producers appears to be
nearly infinite.
Thanks, all.
db
It can't be an infinite number or those monkeys
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From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 12:13 PM
Subject: Re: bad science (and the titanic) created the broadcast industry
On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 12:03:44PM -0600, The Fool wrote:
--- Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The Fool wrote:
The kicker is that distilled water is purer,
tastes better, has fewer contamininents, etc.
Taste is a matter of opinion. I happen not to agree
with you 100%. Some
minerals in water improve the taste, IMO. (Only
certain
On 13 Mar 2003 at 14:22, The Fool wrote:
http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2003/3/10/2361/49952
Murdoch helps the US information war (Media)
By QuantumG
Wed Mar 12th, 2003 at 01:21:24 PM EST
Then he's free to launch his own media campaign against the war.
Plenty of other people have.
On 13 Mar 2003 at 16:46, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 3/13/2003 2:12:25 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Yeah. So long as it is VERY bad.
But it makes you sigh. The number of stupid producers appears to
be nearly infinite.
Thanks,
George A wrote:
The first Covenant trilogy in one word:
Depressing.
The second trilogy in more than one word:Even more
depressing.
I didn't make it very far into the first trilogy for
that and other reasons.
--- Lalith Vipulananthan wrote
George wrote:
Lalith Vipulananthan asked:
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From: Julia Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 12:59 PM
To: Killer Bs Discussion
Subject: Re: Commentary on French-bashing
Gautam,
I didn't say I agreed with the article. I just put it out
there for commentary. I thought
At 02:58 PM 3/13/03 -0600, Julia Thompson wrote:
Maybe they [the French people]
don't make sense all the time, but they can make a good wine. Maybe the
two are connected? ;)
When talking about the constellations in class, particularly how it is so
hard to make _anything_ out of the bunch of
At 01:09 PM 3/13/03 -0800, d.brin wrote:
Yeah. So long as it is VERY bad.
But it makes you sigh. The number of stupid producers appears to be
nearly infinite.
As does the stupidity level of any individual member of that set . . .
;-b
-- Ronn! :)
Your message here!
(Call for rates.)
From: Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED]
So let's discuss it. Do any of you have access to more information
about this awful thing? A web site? A list of the producers? Plot
summaries?
I actually took an hour to read the novelization of THE CORE.
That's all it took? All of one hour? Wow. That
--- Kevin Tarr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
you [I think it was Gary] wrote:
Not that I am a habitual Ephedra user, but I have
taken it in the past
(in dietary supplements) so I am aware of the risks
and effects.
New York County Bans Sale of Ephedra
At 11:28 PM 3/13/03 +, Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo wrote:
Wait.. does that mean that all Ph.D's are *not* two-dimensional?
Some are two- (or even more-) degreed . . .
-- Ronn! :)
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 5:28 PM
Subject: Re: br!n: Re: a call to the irregulars!
From: Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED]
So let's discuss it. Do any of you have access to more information
Miller, Jeffrey wrote:
One thing that I especially love about the whole freedom foods
stuff, is that neither French Fries or French Toast are particularly
French...
1) For French fries:
They're not particularly French. I think McDonald's just calls them
fries without any additional
I saw her on the local TV last week, saying again that
she was upset and burned 'a letter from her husband'
and thought it was out before she left the campfire
ring...
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/state/article/0,1299,DRMN_21_1656225,00.html
CRIPPLE CREEK - Terry Lynn Barton, the U.S.
At 06:31 PM 3/13/03 -0600, Julia Thompson wrote:
French vanilla ice cream, you can have, I'll take Homemade vanilla. :)
Me, too.
And as I've said before, the only thing French I'd be really worried about
if they ban it is the kissing . . .
Mind In Gutter Maru
-- Ronn! :)
Your message
Deborah wrote:
jumping in
I was ~25 when I read the first book, which I only
finished because a good friend had highly recommended
it. I nearly tossed it after the
rape-and-then-she-falls-in-love scenario, as that is
so far from real life that I couldn't stand it.
You did only read the
John Horn wrote:
From: G. D. Akin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
The first Covenant trilogy in one word:Depressing.
great
Agreed.
The second trilogy in more than one word:Even more depressing.
awful
Wah. Why did you find it awful? Did you also think that _The One Tree_ was
On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 01:09:57PM -0800, d.brin wrote:
Yeah. So long as it is VERY bad.
But it makes you sigh. The number of stupid producers appears to be
nearly infinite.
What I find more disconcerting is that so many movies like this get
made, which means there IS a market for most of
--- Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
it's not inappropriate to say that some anti-war
protesters are, in fact, anti-American.
http://www.whittierdailynews.com/Stories/0,1413,207~12026~1234836,00.html
[from the article:]
LA HABRA -- Antiwar protesters burned and ripped up
flags,
Deborah Harrell wrote:
--- Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Deborah Harrell wrote:
Debbi
who managed to get in another mention of horses
:)
OK, that does it, Debbi! You have to start reading
some Elizabeth Moon.
Start with _Hunting Party_. :)
Sounds interesting -
On Wed, 12 Mar 2003, John D. Giorgis wrote:
At 01:00 AM 3/5/2003 -0600 Marvin Long, Jr. wrote:
Saddam is as guilty as sin but if containment can keep him as
relatively weak as he is now, then perpetuating that state of affairs is
the lesser evil
Two questions for you Marvin:
1) Do you
--- Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo wrote:
From: Matt Grimaldi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
sniplets interspersed, marked by ...
I've had similar problems with 1st-person shooter
style games, though I got used to it after a while.
One thing that helped is to change the POV to be
just over the shoulder, behind the
At 06:49 PM 3/13/2003 -0600, you wrote:
At 06:31 PM 3/13/03 -0600, Julia Thompson wrote:
French vanilla ice cream, you can have, I'll take Homemade vanilla. :)
Me, too.
And as I've said before, the only thing French I'd be really worried about
if they ban it is the kissing . . .
Mind In
--- Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snippage
I'm guessing that it means you'd better be wearing
underpants, style to your
choosing, unless they specifically disallow thongs
or something. (And as
I've never worn a thong that I found to be
comfortable, I wouldn't have any
concerns
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
Deborah Harrell
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 6:16 PM
To: Killer Bs Discussion
Subject: Re: This is why
...
[from the article:]
LA HABRA -- Antiwar protesters burned and ripped up
flags, flowers and
At 04:25 PM 3/13/2003 -0600, you wrote:
At 02:58 PM 3/13/03 -0600, Julia Thompson wrote:
Maybe they [the French people]
don't make sense all the time, but they can make a good wine. Maybe the
two are connected? ;)
When talking about the constellations in class, particularly how it is so
hard
--- Jon Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Behalf Of Deborah Harrell
--- Jon Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
This is *awful*...but good sick gallows
humor...
Cowboys and Muslims snipped joke
This was incredibly offensive and not
On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 08:32:17PM -0600, Marvin Long, Jr. wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2003, John D. Giorgis wrote:
At 01:00 AM 3/5/2003 -0600 Marvin Long, Jr. wrote:
Saddam is as guilty as sin but if containment can keep him as
relatively weak as he is now, then perpetuating that state of
2) Did you consider the DPRK in 1994, when it was accepting US bribes and
UN inspections, and when it was only a few years away from assembling a few
nuclear bombs without us knowing or able to stop them, to be relatively
weak at that time?
Yes and no. Compared to the US, in general terms,
At 01:07 AM 3/14/2003 +, you wrote:
John Horn wrote:
From: G. D. Akin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
The first Covenant trilogy in one word:Depressing.
great
Agreed.
The second trilogy in more than one word:Even more depressing.
awful
Wah. Why did you find it awful? Did you
In a message dated 3/13/2003 4:09:57 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
stupid producers
An oxymoron (or maybe a real moron) if I ever heard one
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Can anybody provide some advice on this:
I bought a brand new computer last June.
As is my habit, I basically leave my computer turned
on all the time, except when I am on travel for
multiple days.
Last night, I had guests over, so I turned my computer
off.
This morning, I turned on my
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
stupid producers
An oxymoron (or maybe a real moron) if I ever heard one
I believe that you mean it is a redundancy.
JDG
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Not a computer expert but I built my own PC...
Sounds like a power supply problem on first guess. Best way to fix is buy a
new case and migrate the rest of your PC into it. Not easy if you've never
done this before...
Damon.
Damon
On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 11:22:37PM -0500, Damon wrote:
Not a computer expert but I built my own PC...
Sounds like a power supply problem on first guess. Best way to fix is
buy a new case and migrate the rest of your PC into it. Not easy if
you've never done this before...
I think that's a
Guatam wrote:
Many of my friends who strongly oppose the war
_loathe_ France, and will quite openly say that,
because, even though they agree with France's
position, its tactics and language have been those of
enemies, not allies.
This is really interesting. On the opposite
side, many of my
I think that's a good guess, Damon. But because it involves less work,
I would suggest first unplugging and re-plugging all the power plugs
leading from the power supply to the motherboard (or even easier, if
you can tell which ones go to the power switch, just try those). If the
side panel got
--- Reggie Bautista [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Then there are people like me, who are all over the
spectrum when you measure the spectrum in
traditional
liberal vs. conservative terms, who agree or
disagree
with this war for a variety of reasons. I've seen
this
debate onlist cast more and
--- Lalith Vipulananthan wrote:
Deborah wrote:
jumping in
I was ~25 when I read the first book, which I only
finished because a good friend had highly
recommended it. I nearly tossed it after the
rape-and-then-she-falls-in-love scenario, as that
is so far from real life that I
Erik Reuter wrote:
How many people die every day of AIDS in Africa because the
Capitalist Corporations insist on keeping anti-AIDS drugs so
expensive as to make country-wide campaings impossible?
Irrelevant, just as How many people die every day of AIDS
Jon Gabriel wrote:
I checked my archive. That was John Horn who said that, not me. You're
referring to your reply to him on 3/5?
Oops, sorry about that.
If you do want my opinion on this subject
Millions of Buddhist Indians view the swastika as a symbol of life.
Julia Thompson wrote:
Or we're travelling, the local water tastes weird, and we know we have to
keep drinking stuff to stay sufficiently hydrated so as not to end up mildly
constipated, and the bottled water tastes a little less extreme than the
local stuff we're avoiding.
(There's a particular
--- Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Deborah Harrell wrote:
--- Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
OK, that does it, Debbi! You have to start
reading some Elizabeth Moon.
Start with _Hunting Party_. :)
Sounds interesting - I think I read something by
her many years
Dan Minette wrote:
Roughly, it was 200 pages. I normally read in the 100-125 ppm range, but
this was faster. .
Wow!!! That would be better than 2 pages a second!! Evelyn would be so
proud.
Doug
Who knows what you meant. 8^)
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Debbi wrote:
Hmm, well it *was* a long time ago...I'm not sure if I
learned that through conversation -- I really don't
recognize the other characters you named below (like
the one name, though!) -- it's entirely possible that
my friend discussed further storyline(s) in an effort
to
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