Squirming stats to deny Clinton credit for declining
abortion is legitimate politics so go ahead, John,
even though GHWBush pursued no policies that he even
CLAIMED could take credit for the decline and it was a
major decline and despite a blip it spanned all of
Clinton's presidency.
(What had
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From: David Brin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 1:17 AM
Subject: Re: Brin: Abortion Stats
Squirming stats to deny Clinton credit for declining
abortion is legitimate politics so go ahead, John,
even
David's comment on the US budget got me thinking...how has income and
expenses changed (as a fraction of GDP) over the last 50 or so years.
Here's some US budget numbers for % changes over 4 year
intervals...corresponding to presidential terms:
YearIncome Expense
One more set of numbers...this time its a breakdown of the sources of
income for the US government:..as a fraction of GDP. The income tax, as a
% of receipts goes up and down. But, we see corporate taxes fall
significantly, while the Social security tax rises...almost in exact
opposition. In
Hello,
I have long feared that the threat from space isn't an armada of economic
conquerors, but from aliens who hold deep rooted religious passion and need
to share it with everyone. Or kill them.
Comments?
Yours,
Miron Murcury
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--- Dan M offered interesting statistics. But the
core thing is this. Clinton asked THIS generation to
pay for our own expenses. W is demanding that our
children pay for a trillion dollar gift to his
friends...
...on the excuse that his frat brothers will tthen
invest in jobs at home (they
Miron,
I have long feared that the threat from space isn't an armada of
economic conquerors, but from aliens who hold deep rooted religious
passion and need to share it with everyone. Or kill them.
On the one hand, the rigors of interstellar travel being what they are,
pretty much only
NAME THE BEASTS
Some of my own theological thoughts are incorporated into my new
graphic novel, THE LIFE EATERS. If there is a Creator, He clearly
intends that things remain vague enough that we must use the word
if about Him. (Otherwise, He'd appear overhead in some blatant,
unambiguous
--- Dan M offered interesting statistics. But the
core thing is this. Clinton asked THIS generation to
pay for our own expenses. W is demanding that our
children pay for a trillion dollar gift to his
friends...
...on the excuse that his frat brothers will tthen
invest in jobs at home (they have
At 04:24 PM Friday 10/22/04, d.brin wrote:
NAME THE BEASTS
Some of my own theological thoughts are incorporated into my new graphic
novel, THE LIFE EATERS. If there is a Creator, He clearly intends that
things remain vague enough that we must use the word if about
Him. (Otherwise, He'd appear
I mentioned this before, but I just have to refer you all again to
the endorsement issue of The American Conservative.
Never before have I seen a core publication of a major political
movement express such deep, intelligent, and angst-ridden despair
over the designated leadership of their
--- Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You been taking the missionary discussions or
something? What you just
described is basic LDS theology: God is our
Heavenly Father. He sent us
to this earth and withheld the direct knowledge of
this so we can learn and
grow by making our
http://www.technologyreview.com/articles/04/10/wo_muller101504.asp?p=0
A prime piece of evidence linking human activity to climate change
turns out to be an artifact of poor mathematics.
By Richard Muller
Technology for Presidents
October 15, 2004
Progress in science is
Dan Minette asked:
Did you consider the tribute that Saudi Arabia and Kuwait
were paying after the 1st Gulf War? That could easily justify
this difference.
How much was this tribute supposed to have been?
Some hundreds of billions
Alberto Monteiro
Did you consider the tribute that Saudi Arabia
and Kuwait
were paying after the 1st Gulf War?
The incredible fact that the 91 war was run at a
profit sort of helps make up (but nothing can ever
make up) for the Shame of 91. See http://www.davidbrin.com/shame.html
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From: Alberto Monteiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 8:17 PM
Subject: Re: Brin: US Budget
Dan Minette asked:
Did you consider the tribute that Saudi Arabia and Kuwait
were paying after the 1st
On Fri, Oct 22, 2004 at 11:58:12AM -0500, Dan Minette wrote:
The source for my numbers is:
http://www.gpoaccess.gov/usbudget/fy05/hist.html
Very interesting data, Dan. Thanks for posting the link. I graphed
it here:
http://erikreuter.net/econ/budget.png
A couple things that jumped out
At 08:45 PM 10/22/2004 -0500 Dan Minette wrote:
First of all; a number of nations did chip in for the cost of the first
Gulf War. It amounted to less than 100 billion. The Saudis, the Kuwaitis
and the Japanese were the biggest contributors.
But, let us look at that kind of money over 9 years
Dan Minette wrote:
First of all; a number of nations did chip in for the cost of the first
Gulf War. It amounted to less than 100 billion. The Saudis, the Kuwaitis
and the Japanese were the biggest contributors.
But, let us look at that kind of money over 9 years (assuming it started
late
At 05:43 PM 10/22/2004 -0700 d.brin wrote:
I mentioned this before, but I just have to refer you all again to
the endorsement issue of The American Conservative.
Dr. Brin,
American Conservative, if I recall correctly, is Pat Buchanan's magazine.
In particular, I think that Pat Buchanan founded
At 06:09 PM 10/22/2004 -0700 David Brin wrote:
Both faiths are theologically compatible with science.
Strangely, Catholicism has also turned itself into a
sect that expresses profound enthusiasm for science in
a macro-cosmos, despite theological
Strangely? Catholics basically founded the
At 11:17 PM 10/21/2004 -0700 David Brin wrote:
Squirming stats to deny Clinton credit for declining
abortion is legitimate politics so go ahead, John,
even though GHWBush pursued no policies that he even
CLAIMED could take credit for the decline
Well, Bush's first act in office was to stop the
At 02:49 PM 21/10/04 -0700, Nick Arnett wrote:
Dan Minette wrote:
By no stretch of the imagination was Bin Laden opressed.
Certainly not economically. His personal concerns are unknown to me, but
I'm certain that he may be reacting to his perception of how his people,
however he might
At 08:09 PM Friday 10/22/04, David Brin wrote:
--- Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You been taking the missionary discussions or
something? What you just
described is basic LDS theology: God is our
Heavenly Father. He sent us
to this earth and withheld the direct knowledge of
In other words, this article is merely reflection of
a long-standing diversion of one ideological
thread from the other, and is hardly
surprising.
Squirm away. It's fun to watch. Especially since
William F. Buckley has ALSO joined the defectors.
ANd George F Will and
Moreover,
--- JDG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 06:09 PM 10/22/2004 -0700 David Brin wrote:
Both faiths are theologically compatible with
science.
Strangely, Catholicism has also turned itself into
a
sect that expresses profound enthusiasm for science
in
a macro-cosmos, despite theological
At 09:32 PM Friday 10/22/04, JDG wrote:
At 06:09 PM 10/22/2004 -0700 David Brin wrote:
Both faiths are theologically compatible with science.
Strangely, Catholicism has also turned itself into a
sect that expresses profound enthusiasm for science in
a macro-cosmos, despite theological
Strangely?
Keith Henson wrote:
I think that if you want to try to understand why humans do things you
have to look at how our psychological mechanisms were shaped in the EEA,
the environment of evolutionary adaption.
I have to? There's no other way? ;-) No non-evolutionary
explanations? Not that I am
The fundamental question posed is this: once a child has been conceived,
what is the proper response of a good society - of America at her best? If
pregnancy presents a challenge, do we as a society rise to the challenge by
dispensing with the child? And when a pregnancy comes at a difficult time,
--- David Brin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Squirm away. It's fun to watch. Especially since
William F. Buckley has ALSO joined the defectors.
ANd George F Will and
D. Brin, don't be absurd. _The American Conservative_
is basically a platform for the frankly racist,
xenophobic
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From: John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 9:34 PM
Subject: Re: Br!n: US Budget
At 08:45 PM 10/22/2004 -0500 Dan Minette wrote:
First of all; a number of nations did chip in for the cost of
whoops
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From: Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 11:45 PM
Subject: Re: Br!n: US Budget
Well, reasonably, he was thinking he might have a second term...not that
he
would. Given the fact that it
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