Scouted: Meet The World

2005-06-01 Thread David Land
Brazilian artist Icaro Doria interprets flags of various countries as statistical graphs: http://www.brazilianartists.net/home/flags/ Dave ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: The French Say "Non!"

2005-06-01 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 12:49 AM Thursday 6/2/2005, Gary Denton wrote: On 6/1/05, Warren Ockrassa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On May 31, 2005, at 1:19 PM, Dave Land wrote: > > > On May 31, 2005, at 11:38 AM, Warren Ockrassa wrote: > > > >> Yeah. What I've been missing in the flurry of coverage is the actual > >> con

Re: The French Say "Non!"

2005-06-01 Thread Gary Denton
On 6/1/05, Warren Ockrassa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On May 31, 2005, at 1:19 PM, Dave Land wrote: > > > On May 31, 2005, at 11:38 AM, Warren Ockrassa wrote: > > > >> Yeah. What I've been missing in the flurry of coverage is the actual > >> constitution itself. Anyone have a link handy to the t

Re: kingdom of heaven/this chickenshit era we live in...../uplift wars

2005-06-01 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 10:50 PM Wednesday 6/1/2005, Warren Ockrassa wrote: (OK, not fair. I guess the FX were *tolerable* in context in the Heston film ... but when you compare PotA's "apes" to the pre-humans in _2001_, well...) Which one won the Academy Award, though? -- Ronn! :) _

Re: Will someone, anyone please explain to me..........

2005-06-01 Thread Gary Denton
On 5/31/05, Warren Ockrassa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On May 31, 2005, at 5:20 PM, Leonard Matusik wrote: > > > Ah yes Never mind then. sorry > > I shall look for another list to bother with those things. > > Now now, don't take personal offense where none was intended. There'll > be p

Re: Scouted: "Great Bush-ism"

2005-06-01 Thread Julia Thompson
Dave Land wrote: Folks, Über-geek, "spiritual teacher," sports fan and political blogger Dan Shafer quotes the president telling the truth in a way that may not have been quite what he intended: "See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for t

Re: kingdom of heaven/this chickenshit era we live in...../uplift wars

2005-06-01 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 6/1/2005 8:50:49 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Will Smith might be able to play Uthacalthing, > the Tymbrini ambassidor and Danny Devito would be great as Gubru > Suzerain of Beam and Talon...But, I'm sorry; you're > absolute

Cool - Translucent Concrete....

2005-06-01 Thread Gary Nunn
Light transmitting concrete is set to go on sale later this year. The days of dull, grey concrete could be about to end. A Hungarian architect has combined the world's most popular building material with optical fiber from Schott to create a new type of concrete that transmits light. Letting t

Re: kingdom of heaven/this chickenshit era we live in...../uplift wars

2005-06-01 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Jun 1, 2005, at 3:54 PM, Leonard Matusik wrote: God Warren; THAT sucks Look what BBC did with Adam's "Hitchhicker", :D Not the Beeb. I was thinking more along the lines of the folks who did the *Brit* version of _War of the Worlds_ recently. And the Beeb TV version was still a damn s

Re: Br!n: Re: appealing to old style conservatives\a monopoly on nukes

2005-06-01 Thread Doug Pensinger
I sent this last night but it didn't make it to the list for some reason. Leonard wrote: My dear Mr. Pensinger, Welcome to the list, Leonard. It would seem to me that those capable of most effectively deploying nukes have a "monopoly on nukes". A nuke sitting in my basement is hardly a threa

On this day...

2005-06-01 Thread Warren Ockrassa
...in 1980, CNN began broadcasting. On this day in 1880, the first pay telephone was installed. There's something there about paying for gossip transmitted across copper wire, but it's just not jelling. -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http://books.nightwares.com/ Curre

Re: The French Say "Non!"

2005-06-01 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On May 31, 2005, at 1:19 PM, Dave Land wrote: On May 31, 2005, at 11:38 AM, Warren Ockrassa wrote: Yeah. What I've been missing in the flurry of coverage is the actual constitution itself. Anyone have a link handy to the text of the document? http://europa.eu.int/constitution/index_en.htm A

Re: Brin: General's career ended for criticizing Iraq War

2005-06-01 Thread David Brin
Dave's point about blackmail is hugely significant. For many years discrimination against homosexuals was defended based upon their susceptibility to coercion vs being outed. To this day, SECRET homosexuality is considered worrisome by the State Dept. Alas, that is the only kind allowed in the

Re: Scouted: "Great Bush-ism"

2005-06-01 Thread Dave Land
On Jun 1, 2005, at 5:29 PM, Dave Land wrote: "See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." Vs. FDR: "Repetition does not transform a lie into a truth." Half-right. Repetition tr

Scouted: "Great Bush-ism"

2005-06-01 Thread Dave Land
Folks, Über-geek, "spiritual teacher," sports fan and political blogger Dan Shafer quotes the president telling the truth in a way that may not have been quite what he intended: "See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink i

Re: Brin: General's career ended for criticizing Iraq War

2005-06-01 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 06:05 PM Wednesday 6/1/2005, Dave Land wrote: On Jun 1, 2005, at 3:22 PM, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 11:47 AM Wednesday 6/1/2005, Dave Land wrote: On Jun 1, 2005, at 8:57 AM, Nick Arnett wrote: Little-Used Punishment A senior officer's loss of a star is a punishment seldom used, and the

Re: Brin: General's career ended for criticizing Iraq War

2005-06-01 Thread Dave Land
On Jun 1, 2005, at 3:22 PM, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 11:47 AM Wednesday 6/1/2005, Dave Land wrote: On Jun 1, 2005, at 8:57 AM, Nick Arnett wrote: Little-Used Punishment A senior officer's loss of a star is a punishment seldom used, and then usually for the most serious offenses, such as

Re: kingdom of heaven/this chickenshit era we live in...../uplift wars

2005-06-01 Thread Leonard Matusik
God Warren; THAT sucks Look what BBC did with Adam's "Hitchhicker", :D maybe someone could just do a stage play, maybe a musical adeptation.. Leonard Matusik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Warren Ockrassa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Wed, 1 Jun 2005 07:50:12 -0700 On Jun 1, 2005, at 5:19 AM, Leonard Ma

Re: Brin: General's career ended for criticizing Iraq War

2005-06-01 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 11:47 AM Wednesday 6/1/2005, Dave Land wrote: On Jun 1, 2005, at 8:57 AM, Nick Arnett wrote: Little-Used Punishment A senior officer's loss of a star is a punishment seldom used, and then usually for the most serious offenses, such as dereliction of duty or command failures, adultery or mis

Re: The French Say "Non!"

2005-06-01 Thread PAT MATHEWS
From: "Dan Minette" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I'm sure most of you ran across the news that the French rejected the > Euro constitution. > I'm switching the order of the questions around because the answers to the first question are highly dependant on the answers to the second. > Do you think this

Re: Brin: General's career ended for criticizing Iraq War

2005-06-01 Thread David Brin
--- Dave Land <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am I the only one surprised to find adultery on this > list of "most > serious offenses" Actually, I am not surprised. The military is a hothouse environment. Mariages are its bedrock. What is unfair, of course, is uneven enforcement. But if you ar

Re: Brin: General's career ended for criticizing Iraq War

2005-06-01 Thread David Brin
--- Nick Arnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Unceremonious End to Army Career > By Tom Bowman > The Baltimore Sun > > Sunday 29 May 2005 The utter hypocrisy of so-called "conservatives" who are unable to grasp that the GOP has been seized (again) by monsters, is simply staggering.

Weekly Chat Reminder

2005-06-01 Thread William T Goodall
As Steve said, "The Brin-L weekly chat has been a list tradition for over six years. Way back on 27 May, 1998, Marco Maisenhelder first set up a chatroom for the list, and on the next day, he established a weekly chat time. We've been through several servers, chat technologies, and even casts of

Re: The French Say "Non!"

2005-06-01 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: "Robert G. Seeberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2005 7:09 PM Subject: The French Say "Non!" > I'm sure most of you ran across the news that the French rejected the > Euro constitution. > I'm switching the order of the questions around bec

Re: Brin: General's career ended for criticizing Iraq War

2005-06-01 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: "Dave Land" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 11:47 AM Subject: Re: Brin: General's career ended for criticizing Iraq War > On Jun 1, 2005, at 8:57 AM, Nick Arnett wrote: > > > Little-Used Punishment > > > > A senio

Re: Brin: General's career ended for criticizing Iraq War

2005-06-01 Thread Dave Land
On Jun 1, 2005, at 8:57 AM, Nick Arnett wrote: Little-Used Punishment A senior officer's loss of a star is a punishment seldom used, and then usually for the most serious offenses, such as dereliction of duty or command failures, adultery or misuse of government funds or equipment. Am I the o

Brin: General's career ended for criticizing Iraq War

2005-06-01 Thread Nick Arnett
Unceremonious End to Army Career By Tom Bowman The Baltimore Sun Sunday 29 May 2005 Outspoken general fights demotion. Washington - John Riggs spent 39 years in the Army, earning a Distinguished Flying Cross for bravery during the Vietnam War and working his way up to becom

Re: The French Say "Non!"

2005-06-01 Thread Adrian Howard
On 1 Jun 2005, at 00:32, Robert Seeberger wrote: [snip] Two of the tidbits I heard sounded interesting. One was that the rejection vote was caused in part by sovereignty questions. The other was that the inclusion of Turkey and the expansion to 25 states would diminish Frances power. If true, th

Originality and Romanticism (was: See Kingdom of Heaven)

2005-06-01 Thread Max Battcher
Kevin Street wrote: Imo, we're living in a period where startling originality is shown alongside derivative pablum like "Triple X: State of The Union." But then, maybe it's always been that way. That's the way it always has been. We just tend to forget the dreck that once surrounded the origi

Re: kingdom of heaven/this chickenshit era we live in...../uplift wars

2005-06-01 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Jun 1, 2005, at 5:19 AM, Leonard Matusik wrote: But Uplift WARS! (see even the name sounds movie-ish) That couldn't be a whole lot harder to do than "Planet of the Apes", could it? Which version do you mean? The Heston one with the goofy unlifelike masks, or the Burton one that was a var

re: kingdom of heaven/this chickenshit era we live in...../uplift wars

2005-06-01 Thread Leonard Matusik
H, I can see where you'd say that about something like Startide Rising. It's very cerebral and the water scene would almost have to be animated to work. You'd loose too much. (like how could you possibly do the "underwater homosexual dolphin" scene? But Uplift WARS! (see even the name sou

Re: Welcome Re: more thread suggestions

2005-06-01 Thread Leonard Matusik
"school" LOL, well I hope you teach them something. I went to a "famous southern womens college" in TN. 5 men/125 students. Got more education out of coffee break than anything! WOW, talk about your "orthodoxy" leonard matusik [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Tue, 31 May 2005 23:01: