Re: Wealthy couples travel to U.S. to choose baby's sex

2006-07-13 Thread Doug Pensinger
John wrote: Isn't the real danger of ending up with an unbalanced population, making it difficult for a generation to find a mate, worth noting? So you're saying we should tailor our laws to remedy the shortcomings of the Chinese social system? And is this really functionally different

Re: Introductions

2006-07-13 Thread Doug Pensinger
Charlie wrote: Hola. I'm Charlie, 32 year old Brit from Wimbledon, London, UK. Work as a PC tech and website builder these days. Degree in Zoology, worked variously in sales, finance and behind a bar. Spent 2005 cycling round Australia. Joined Brin-L in '97 or 98, been here on and off

Re: Wealthy couples travel to U.S. to choose baby's sex

2006-07-13 Thread Charlie Bell
On 13/07/2006, at 3:42 AM, Alberto Vieira Ferreira Monteiro wrote: Charlie Bell wrote: Many animal species have a disequilibrium. Such as? One way is by polygamy. In mammals, that just leads to lots of unmated males, with fierce competition. The overall ratio, if you're talking lions

Re: Wealthy couples travel to U.S. to choose baby's sex

2006-07-13 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 02:03 AM Thursday 7/13/2006, Charlie Bell wrote: On 13/07/2006, at 3:42 AM, Alberto Vieira Ferreira Monteiro wrote: Charlie Bell wrote: Many animal species have a disequilibrium. Such as? One way is by polygamy. [snip] Because it would take careful control of a fixed population.

Re: Earth Shattering BREAKING NEWS!! (not!)

2006-07-13 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 10:22 PM Wednesday 7/12/2006, Robert Seeberger wrote: Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 02:48 PM Wednesday 7/12/2006, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Gary Nunn wrote: Ok, does anyone really care that one guy head butted another for insulting his lineage? Definitely don't think this warrants a BREAKING

Re: Wealthy couples travel to U.S. to choose baby's sex

2006-07-13 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Charlie Bell wrote: In mammals, that just leads to lots of unmated males, with fierce competition. The overall ratio, if you're talking lions or deer or something, is 50-50, The end result is disequilibrium. example please? Of a natural diploid population with a highly skewed

Re: Wealthy couples travel to U.S. to choose baby's sex

2006-07-13 Thread Charlie Bell
On 13/07/2006, at 3:23 PM, Alberto Monteiro wrote: example please? Of a natural diploid population with a highly skewed male/female ratio. Haplodiploidy causes sex ratio bias, as I discussed previously. This ratio can come after a fierce and deadly competition among males. Those males

Re: Wealthy couples travel to U.S. to choose baby's sex

2006-07-13 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Charlie Bell wrote: example please? Of a natural diploid population with a highly skewed male/female ratio. Haplodiploidy causes sex ratio bias, as I discussed previously. This ratio can come after a fierce and deadly competition among males. Those males that are excluded are,

Re: Wealthy couples travel to U.S. to choose baby's sex

2006-07-13 Thread Charlie Bell
On 13/07/2006, at 5:44 PM, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Charlie Bell wrote: example please? Of a natural diploid population with a highly skewed male/female ratio. Haplodiploidy causes sex ratio bias, as I discussed previously. This ratio can come after a fierce and deadly competition

Re: Earth Shattering BREAKING NEWS!! (not!)

2006-07-13 Thread Julia Thompson
Dave Land wrote: On Jul 12, 2006, at 8:22 PM, Robert Seeberger wrote: Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 02:48 PM Wednesday 7/12/2006, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Gary Nunn wrote: Ok, does anyone really care that one guy head butted another for insulting his lineage? Definitely don't think this

Re: Introduction s

2006-07-13 Thread T. Wavis
--- Jo Anne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello List -- Gotta love these intros. T.Wavis Writ: Hello my ducky! What are ye at tonight, by? I just use by, by the way. But anyway, I'm from Conception Bay, on the Avalon. About 50 km from St. John's. And now I have two questions:

Re: Earth Shattering BREAKING NEWS!! (not!)

2006-07-13 Thread Dave Land
On Jul 13, 2006, at 2:11 PM, Julia Thompson wrote: Dave Land wrote: On Jul 12, 2006, at 8:22 PM, Robert Seeberger wrote: Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 02:48 PM Wednesday 7/12/2006, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Gary Nunn wrote: Ok, does anyone really care that one guy head butted another for

Re: An Inconvenient Truth

2006-07-13 Thread Robert Seeberger
jdiebremse wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you believe we are near or past peak oil? I certainly haven't seen any evidence that we are *past* peak oil, if indeed, there is such a thing. Near is, of course, an ambiguous term. I've seen quite a

Re: An Inconvenient Truth

2006-07-13 Thread Doug Pensinger
JDG wrote: I wrote: So what would be the point in tapping the ANWR? I'm not sure where this question comes from. I personally don't have particularly strong feelings either way about drilling in ANWR. I apologize for a poorly worded question. I didn't mean it as a comment on your

Re: Wealthy couples travel to U.S. to choose baby's sex

2006-07-13 Thread jdiebremse
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eugenics is a social philosophy. I don't think that if I have six offspring and all of them are the same sex and I choose the sex of the seventh to be the opposite sex that that amounts to a social philosophy. It amounts to

Re: Wealthy couples travel to U.S. to choose baby's sex

2006-07-13 Thread Doug Pensinger
JDG wrote: Of course, but your choice has implications that affect others - to say nothing of your child. Are you saying that if the free choice of American parents results in a generation that is born 75% female and 25% male, that you would have no problem with that? (And women say that