That name's a blast from the past, Now all we need the Goddess, Maiden, and
Crone of Mars.
-- Matt
From: Doug Pensinger
To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 8:48:44 PM
Subject: Gord
I thought some of the old timers might b
I thought some of the old timers might be interested that I visited with our
old list mate and recent Campbell award nominee in San Francisco on Friday.
Gord is doing very well it seems; he is close to being tenured at the
Korean university where he teaches English and has had several short storie
Julia wrote:
>
> Reply:
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> I get no more than 1 in 500 false positives.
>
> I get no more than 1 in 1000 false negatives.
>
> It was more than that early on in my use of Gmail, I got one account in
> 2004, IIRC, and another in 2007. The more recent one, most of the false
> positives were from on
>Why doesn't the wind turbine count as a source of energy?
It absolutely does. My question concerned how much energy per liter
compared to other unconventional methods.
>It's pretty obvious that when he said "none" he meant no _external_ source
of energy.
Well, since he was responding to m
> -Original Message-
> From: brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com [mailto:brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com] On
> Behalf Of hkhenson
> Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 12:29 PM
> To: brin-l@mccmedia.com
> Subject: Re: Drinking Water From Air Humidity
>
> At 07:05 AM 7/13/2009, Dan M wrote:
>
> snip
>
> >B
At 07:05 AM 7/13/2009, Dan M wrote:
snip
Because it clearly won't work well at any time but the pre dawn hours in
the desert. The collectors have to be cooled below the dew point. Let me
give a US example. In Las Vegas yesterday, in the heat of the day, the
temperature was 42C, while the dew
Interesting presentation on depopulation around the world.
MP3
Chris Frandsen
On Jul 11, 2009, at 1:07 PM, Dave Land wrote:
On Jul 11, 2009, at 8:56 AM, Dave Land wrote:
On Jul 10, 2009, at 3:28 PM, Charlie Bell wrote:
On 11/07/2009, at 1:25 AM, Dave Land wrote:
On Jul 9, 2009, at 5:21 P
On 14/07/2009, at 12:18 AM, John Williams wrote:
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 7:05 AM, Charlie
Bell wrote:
On 13/07/2009, at 11:39 PM, John Williams wrote:
If it takes a lot of energy to condense the water, then you need a
large wind-turbine or a lot of solar panels.
Depends how much water yo
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 7:05 AM, Charlie Bell wrote:
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> On 13/07/2009, at 11:39 PM, John Williams wrote:
>
>> If it takes a lot of energy to condense the water, then you need a
>> large wind-turbine or a lot of solar panels.
>
> Depends how much water you need.
>>
>> And how much energy does it ta
On 13/07/2009, at 11:57 PM, dsummersmi...@comcast.net wrote:
In other words, I'd bet a case vs. a bottle of beer that it's a lot
prettier on paper than in practice as a means of providing, say, Las
Vegas,
with drinking water. Because turbines supply the energy doesn't
mean that
its energ
On 13/07/2009, at 11:39 PM, John Williams wrote:
If it takes a lot of energy to condense the water, then you need a
large wind-turbine or a lot of solar panels.
Depends how much water you need.
And how much energy does it take to manufacture the wind-turbines or
solar panels?
Depends on t
Original Message:
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From: Charlie Bell char...@culturelist.org
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 19:25:51 +1000
To: brin-l@mccmedia.com
Subject: Re: Drinking Water From Air Humidity
Charlie wrote:
>Read it again properly, and don't treat me like a first grader.
I asked how much energy is
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 6:29 AM, Julia Thompson wrote:
> I get no more than 1 in 500 false positives.
>
> I get no more than 1 in 1000 false negatives.
That is interesting. I am much more worried about false positives
(missing a real email) than I am about false negatives (seeing a few
spam emails
If it takes a lot of energy to condense the water, then you need a
large wind-turbine or a lot of solar panels.
And how much energy does it take to manufacture the wind-turbines or
solar panels?
Would it have been more efficient to run a large-scale desalination
plant somewhere else (perhaps with
-Original Message-
From: brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com [mailto:brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com] On
Behalf Of John Williams
Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 11:48 PM
To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion
Subject: Re: Google Operating System
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 9:11 PM, Doug Pensinger wro
Charlie Bell wrote:
>
> Maybe I forgot to take into account the brainwashing that happened
> when he entered the oil industry, and he can't see the words 'wind"
> and "turbine" if they're adjacent to each other. Dan, is this words,
> or a blank space: "WIND TURBINE" ? How about this? "RENEWA
On 13/07/2009, at 10:19 PM, Alberto Monteiro wrote:
Dave Land wrote:
Perfect -- and really more the point of my comment: why merely
irritate them when your goal is to engage them in considering the
ramifications of their idiotic statement? But yes: education does
wonders to slow population gr
Dan M wrote:
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> Film, definitely. But, I'd argue that graphic novels combine
> literature and art. Good art can be part of storytelling. For
> example, "Guernica" by Picasso certainly tells a story. (...)
>
Nazi thug to Picasso: "You did this?"
Picasso to nazi thug: "No, you did this"
Albe
Dave Land wrote:
>
> Perfect -- and really more the point of my comment: why merely
> irritate them when your goal is to engage them in considering the
> ramifications of their idiotic statement? But yes: education does
> wonders to slow population growth.
>
It's not education, it's the _cost
On 13/07/2009, at 4:31 PM, Doug Pensinger wrote:
Dan M wrote:
> None, once it's out there. IIRC, it's a small wind turbine that
cools
> collectors in it, and desert air is often humid even if it doesn't
> rain much.
If the collectors are cooled, there _has to be_ a source of energy
that
On 13/07/2009, at 10:13 AM, Dan M wrote:
-Original Message-
From: brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com [mailto:brin-l-
boun...@mccmedia.com] On
Behalf Of Charlie Bell
None, once it's out there. IIRC, it's a small wind turbine that cools
collectors in it, and desert air is often humid even
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