Re: Presented without comment.

2007-05-13 Thread David Hobby
Robert Seeberger wrote: >> Throat cancer linked to virus spread by sex >> Cancer of the throat and tonsils can arise from infection with >> a >> sexually transmitted virus. >> ... > > Now that you mention politics...

Re: Henson's adventures.

2007-04-11 Thread David Hobby
Keith Henson wrote: > Some of you follow my adventures with the clam cult. This is the latests. > > http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.scientology/msg/d2ef82e36c8140e2?hl=en&; Keith-- Good for you. I hope things work out. ---David _

Re: How I would change the U.N.

2007-02-03 Thread David Hobby
Doug wrote: > Just off the top of my head: > And if I were an evil dictator, I'd: > I'd add another legislative body that consisted of elected representatives > from each country. Make sure my henchmen won the elections in my country. > I'd give it the ability to tax international commerce to

Re: New take on Fermi Paradox

2007-01-18 Thread David Hobby
William T Goodall wrote: > http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/story/0,,1993006,00.html > > "So much space, so little time: why aliens haven't found us yet > > > Ian Sample, science correspondent ... > Using a computer simulation of our own galaxy, the Milky Way, Rasmus > Bjork, a physicist at t

Re: The long interruption

2006-12-20 Thread David Hobby
Nick Arnett wrote: > So... It appears to me that the list is up again. Nick-- Yes, it is. No need to apologize for the downtime-- we all appreciate the job you're doing. ... > First, the context. This month, I'm doing my regular job for 4-8 hours a > day and spending a lot of the rest of my ti

Re: interesting website

2006-11-28 Thread David Hobby
Gary Nunn wrote: Not sure what I would classify that website as, but I ran across it this morning, and it's one of my new favorites. It's a collection of links to interesting news stories. http://www.fark.com/ Gary-- Thanks, it is interesting. I tried it for awhile, but am giving up. To

Re: It ain't the genes that are different, it's the number of copies . . .

2006-11-24 Thread David Hobby
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... The genome is already messy. The notion that are chromosomes have a neat lineup of genes is incorrect. There are insertions into the middle of genes (introns). Many genes are spread over discontinuous aspects of a single chromosome. Some insertions into the middl

Re: It ain't the genes that are different, it's the number of copies . . .

2006-11-24 Thread David Hobby
Charlie Bell wrote: On 24/11/2006, at 12:05 PM, Alberto Vieira Ferreira Monteiro wrote: ... My point was that the "huge" number of duplications or n-plications of genes would turn the chromossomes into a mess. AFAIK, just one duplicated gene in the middle of it would make things complicated.

Re: "Someone Must Tell Them"

2006-11-22 Thread David Hobby
Charlie Bell wrote: On 22/11/2006, at 3:18 PM, jdiebremse wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Charlie Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: And so there are some f*ckers out there who have been responsible for acts of terror causing the deaths of a few hundred people worldwide on top of the WTC attac

Re: Gay Unions in NJ

2006-10-26 Thread David Hobby
Jim Sharkey wrote: ... From my personal point of view, as a registered NJ voter, I don't really mind the idea of extending protections to committed gay couples similar to committed straight couples, in general. I'm still not a fan of calling it "marriage," but that's my cross to bear, not oth

Re: Heroes

2006-10-25 Thread David Hobby
Jonathan wrote: ... Our Japanese "Hiro's journey" is the most interesting and I recognized the assured older version stopping the tram timeframe. His arrival in Times Square tipped me off his range was greater than we'd seen and I wasn't surprised he showed up in the carriage. I agree his bad

Re: We Will Not Be Afraid

2006-10-23 Thread David Hobby
... I'll see your hand-waiving about shadowy Al-shaped boogie-monsters and raise you one extended parable of America as the Good Cop instead of Bad. If you want an interesting illustration of working "smarter" not "harder" on the problem of anti-terrorism, take a look at this alternate-histor

Re: Paradox, or, Breaking the mind of logic

2006-10-11 Thread David Hobby
jdiebremse wrote: ... But how does this work for N(blue) = 4? The initial state is that each native has two cases: 1) There are three blue-dot natives, and each blue dot native sees two blue dot natives. 2) There are four blue-dot natives, including himself, and each blue dot native sees three

Economics of global warming, was: Re: 9/11 conspiracies ...

2006-09-28 Thread David Hobby
Dan Minette wrote: ... Even if those that predict doom and gloom in the near future, other than some (probably even more exaggerated) economic discomfort, there is very little down side to cleaning up our act. If this is true, than why has world usage of fossil fuel gone up after a tripling o

Re: Religion poll

2006-09-26 Thread David Hobby
Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 11:35 PM Monday 9/25/2006, pencimen wrote: ... How about type E, the Marty Feldman look-alike with a magnifying glass and various insidious impliments (borrowed from the Bush administration no doubt) and taking great delight in making as many of us as miserable as pos

Religion poll

2006-09-25 Thread David Hobby
Pretty much a ghostpost here, but I like the "four views of god" bit. (Particularly if they were actually found as clusters in the responses to the poll, rather than having been pulled out of the researchers' hats.) ---David No wonder no one agrees, Maru Comme

Re: Brin: basic is evil, why it must be eradicated

2006-09-22 Thread David Hobby
... Especially when you subtract two nearly equal numbers. Computers do, but do no programming environments take account of this, by marking recurring numbers as such? Anyone know how Mathematica works? -- Ronn! :) Ronn-- I believe it avoids decimal approximations unless they are specif

Re: Waaaaaaay behind...

2006-09-18 Thread David Hobby
Julia Thompson wrote: I had surgery on September 7 and am now just starting to read listmail again. If you need anything from me, direct e-mail is the best way to reach me. (My hernia is fixed, and for the first time since the twins were born, my abdominal muscles do not have a gap between t

Pioneer anomaly, was: Re: 9-11 conspiricy theories

2006-09-16 Thread David Hobby
Dan Minette wrote: ... When scientists tracked one of the interplanetary probes, the found an anomaly in its orbit. After doing exhaustive work ruling out the conventional explanations that they could think of, and after discussing it with colleagues, they published the anomaly. For a year, pap

Re: Strange New Planet Baffles Astronomers

2006-09-14 Thread David Hobby
Ronn!Blankenship wrote: ... Strange New Planet Baffles Astronomers Washington, DC - Using a network of small automated telescopes known as HAT, Smithsonian astronomers have discovered a planet unlike any other known world. This new planet, designated HAT-P-1, orbits one member of a pair of di

Re: Morality

2006-09-08 Thread David Hobby
William T Goodall wrote: On 8 Sep 2006, at 10:51PM, Richard Baker wrote: ... I think you're wrong on the former. In my opinion, a better characterisation is that agnostics think the truth value of {God(s) exist} is either unknown or possibly even unknowable. They *could* mean that of course

Re: Keep Propaganda Off The Airwaves

2006-09-08 Thread David Hobby
jdiebremse wrote: ... The ABC television network -- a cog in the Walt Disney empire -- unleashed a promotional blitz in the last week for a new "docudrama" called "The Path to 9/11". ABC has thrown its corporate might behind the two-night production, and bills it as a public service: a TV event

Re: Morality

2006-09-08 Thread David Hobby
William T Goodall wrote: ... Agnostics don't believe that it is true that God(s) exist. Atheists believe that it is not true that God(s) exist. In normal binary logic (true/false) these are equivalent since ~true (NOT true) = false (and ~false = true). William-- But "normal" binary logic is

Re: Religious freedom

2006-09-03 Thread David Hobby
William T Goodall wrote: On 3 Sep 2006, at 10:53PM, William T Goodall wrote: It seems pretty obvious to me, but it's not a subject I find important enough to put any extra effort into. If you want to prove me wrong go ahead and knock yourself out. Otherwise we'll just have to differ on the

re: Religious freedom, but not that stupid argument

2006-09-03 Thread David Hobby
Dan Minette wrote: ... Again, per my last email absolute rubbish. Scientology is a creed, a UFO cult set up to milk the members of cash. It is a business, not a religion. If I could step in here, I think this is part of William's point. From the outside, it's hard to tell one group that teache

Re: Religious freedom

2006-09-03 Thread David Hobby
Andrew Crystall wrote: ... Your basic lack of knowledge about dyslexia is glaring. It is not something which can be "overcome" by an educator. It is a literal perceptile gap on the part of the dyslexic person. Andrew-- Sorry about my "Scientototology" joke a couple days ago. On the other han

Re: Police hunt for terror training camp at a faith school in Tunbridge Wells

2006-09-03 Thread David Hobby
William T Goodall wrote: On 3 Sep 2006, at 3:32PM, David Hobby wrote: Look, I teach at a real school. The phrase "Faith school" already sounds pretty bad to me, as it indicates that nothing of substance is taught. Maru. Apart from bomb-making obviously. I figured that B

Re: Police hunt for terror training camp at a faith school in Tunbridge Wells

2006-09-03 Thread David Hobby
Andrew Crystall wrote: On 3 Sep 2006 at 8:54, William T Goodall wrote: 'Faith school' - hah! Why mince words - let's call it what it is, a murder school! And exactly typical of the filthy evil of religion. And let's call you a potential murder, since you follow the faith of militant atheism

Re: Pope prepares to embrace theory of intelligent design

2006-09-02 Thread David Hobby
Andrew Crystall wrote: ... You won't actually get many Rabbis willing to hold forth on pure ... That's why I brought up many-words/multiverse - in that, we are not unique snowflakes at all. There are at "alpha" versions of you, for example, if they're true. I'm not going to get into transinfin

Re: Religious freedom

2006-09-02 Thread David Hobby
Andrew Crystall wrote: On 2 Sep 2006 at 18:17, William T Goodall wrote: No, of course they don't have the same teachings. That's the point - there are a variety of non-religious creeds which vary from Scientology to Communism and so on. Scientology is a religion. Communism is a quasi-religion.

Re: On scientology

2006-08-31 Thread David Hobby
Charlie Bell wrote: On 01/09/2006, at 9:52 AM, Andrew Crystall wrote: On 31 Aug 2006 at 18:26, David Hobby wrote: O.K., if it's purely a money making venture, why all the wacky UFO doctrine? Seriously, with all that money, L. Ron could have hired a GOOD writer, who would have come up

Re: On scientology

2006-08-31 Thread David Hobby
Charlie Bell wrote: On 01/09/2006, at 5:19 AM, David Hobby wrote: ... Andrew-- No, Scientotology is the belief that "all is science". : ) Isn't that "scientism"? Charlie Well, "toto" is a form of the Latin word "totus"

Re: On scientology

2006-08-31 Thread David Hobby
Andrew Crystall wrote: On 31 Aug 2006 at 15:19, David Hobby wrote: Andrew Crystall wrote: ... scientology. Scientotology itself is a UFO cult founded by a mentally ... No, Scientotology is the belief that "all is science". : ) ? Er... I think the Church of Scientology woul

Re: On scientology

2006-08-31 Thread David Hobby
Andrew Crystall wrote: Okay, apparently some people on the list don't know about scientology. Scientotology itself is a UFO cult founded by a mentally ill science fiction writer. Andrew-- No, Scientotology is the belief that "all is science". : ) Seriously though, you are putting the worst

Re: Religious freedom

2006-08-31 Thread David Hobby
Richard Baker wrote: I think that religions and cults are part of the same continuum. Consider a population of people that hold a set of religious beliefs. The size of this population can change in two ways. The population can increase "vertically" though parents raising their children to hold th

Re: Religious freedom

2006-08-31 Thread David Hobby
PAT MATHEWS wrote: From: David Hobby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Is there an actual definition of "religious cult" lurking here? I'd say that the main difference should be how much interaction is allowed with the outside world. A cult would be a group where interaction with o

Re: Religious freedom

2006-08-31 Thread David Hobby
Andrew Crystall wrote: ... That you're, again, deliverately using a cult - NOT a religion Isn't a cult a subset of "religion"? Sure Charlie, just as "poisons" are a subset of "chemicals. There are some clearly defined differences which one can make, especially in terms of interacting with pe

Re: Shirley someone can do better than this

2006-08-17 Thread David Hobby
Ronn!Blankenship wrote: "My Very Educated Mother Cece Just Served Us Nine Pumpkins Carved 'X-actly'." The longer they get, the harder they are. Is there a "us pumpkins nicely carved" version of it for when they are in the other order? I never used mnemonics, at least until "Oh, be a fine girl

Re: New Gramma Ray Burst Observation

2006-08-14 Thread David Hobby
Ronn!Blankenship wrote: <> Ronn-- Excuse me, but that was dumb. Was I supposed to recognize the picture? ---David And don't look at the black hole, Maru _

Re: Question for Charlie

2006-08-11 Thread David Hobby
Alberto Monteiro wrote: Richard Baker wrote: Your answer concentrated on the morality of creating human/chimp hybrids in the first place, rather than on their status once created. I specifically crafted the question so that the morality of their creation wasn't the focus of attention, and i

Re: Question for Charlie

2006-08-09 Thread David Hobby
Richard Baker wrote: Suppose that we've more or less perfected cryogenic suspension. People can be deep frozen and held in that state indefinitely. Thawing is more problematic. Some percentage of frozen "people" fail to be revivified at all. Of those who are, all require five to ten years of i

Re: Wealthy couples travel to U.S. to choose baby's sex

2006-07-31 Thread David Hobby
Julia Thompson wrote: David Hobby wrote: Agnostic, but Atheist if pushed. I take most insects out of the house without killing them. Why? Because it's easy to do, and might reduce suffering. My cousin the entomologist would catch flies in his hand and toss them out the window still

Re: Wealthy couples travel to U.S. to choose baby's sex

2006-07-30 Thread David Hobby
Brother John wrote: David Hobby wrote: ... (Must--not--argue--with--John... No, it's no use, I can't help but gang up on you: Personally, I think you ARE a long ways down a slippery slope to "every sperm is sacred". Sorry.) Perhaps it is an overstatement to say that e

Re: Look on my works, ye mighty...

2006-07-26 Thread David Hobby
Dave Land wrote: ... The above quote is from Shelly's poem Ozymandus: ... Forgive an old English major a moment with one of my favorite works... ... The words, "stamp'd on these lifeless things", are an aside. The line says that the sculptor well read the passions that have survived both the

Re: Wealthy couples travel to U.S. to choose baby's sex

2006-07-25 Thread David Hobby
jdiebremse wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Hobby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm sure we'll eventually be able to clone humans from single cells. Are you saying that this would be by some other method than injecting cell or cell information from an adult into a dono

Re: Wealthy couples travel to U.S. to choose baby's sex

2006-07-24 Thread David Hobby
jdiebremse wrote: ... May I propose that you reply: "Anything produced by combining a human egg and sperm certainly counts as HUMAN. Other things might also; we'll decide about clones later." How about - any individual organism whose adult stage is an adult human is a human? Well, to start

Re: Wealthy couples travel to U.S. to choose baby's sex

2006-07-24 Thread David Hobby
maru dubshinki wrote: On 7/19/06, David Hobby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Alberto Monteiro wrote: ... > Or we can hold "all" sets of axioms, assign a prior probability > to each of them, then apply Bayesian analysis with real world > examples and get a posteriori

Re: Wealthy couples travel to U.S. to choose baby's sex

2006-07-23 Thread David Hobby
Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 09:01 PM Sunday 7/23/2006, David Hobby wrote: (Must--not--argue--with--John... No, it's no use, I can't help but gang up on you: Personally, I think you ARE a long ways down a slippery slope to "every sperm is sacred". Then why do they, l

Re: Wealthy couples travel to U.S. to choose baby's sex

2006-07-23 Thread David Hobby
jdiebremse wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Charlie Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... But the point remains. These are free living human cells, with a full complement of human DNA. That someone has suggested they're a new species is beside the point - these are free-living human cells... so w

Re: Wealthy couples travel to U.S. to choose baby's sex

2006-07-19 Thread David Hobby
Alberto Monteiro wrote: Dan Minette wrote: So, I don't think it is helpful to make arguments based on one's own axiom set and then expect them to sound "reasonable" to someone who holds a different axiom set. Or we can hold "all" sets of axioms, assign a prior probability to each of them, t

Re: Sudoku beats Tabloids

2006-07-15 Thread David Hobby
William T Goodall wrote: ... Those interested in Sudoku might try looking at this http://www.madoverlord.com/projects/sudoku.t ... William-- Thanks, it looks like an interesting program. I have a lot of tricks for solving sudoku, but have no idea what they're called. So comparing with the

Re: Sudoku beats Tabloids

2006-07-14 Thread David Hobby
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AOL Sudoku: I average 9 minutes for level 1 Level 9 took me 97 minutes. Only time I finished it so far. At 9, I'd really like a move number count and a backup button. Vilyehm Vilyehm-- Not to brag, but level 1 took me 4 minutes. With a bit of practice, one get

Re: Introductions

2006-07-11 Thread David Hobby
Charlie Bell wrote: On 11/07/2006, at 5:48 AM, David Hobby wrote: I don't want to jinx you, but are you sure you're done? : ) We're done until the wedding. Prospective Marriage Visa has been granted. Then we have to go back, and it gets changed to a Spouse Visa (Temporar

Re: Introductions

2006-07-10 Thread David Hobby
Charlie Bell wrote: On 10/07/2006, at 11:09 PM, David Hobby wrote: Charlie-- Let me be the first on this list to congratulate you (and Claire). Dealing with Immigration is a pain-- it seems every country shows its bad side to those wanting to get in. Cheers. Actually, it was a piece of

Re: Introductions

2006-07-10 Thread David Hobby
Charlie Bell wrote: ... few months ago) since. Moving to Australia to get married (got my visa today!!!). ... Charlie-- Let me be the first on this list to congratulate you (and Claire). Dealing with Immigration is a pain-- it seems every country shows its bad side to those wanting to get in.

Re: Roots of human family tree are shallow

2006-07-06 Thread David Hobby
Charlie Bell wrote: On 07/07/2006, at 12:55 AM, David Hobby wrote: I'm not arguing against a figure of 10,000 years, that's a long time. Alberto and others were pushing for a much lower figure, around 1000 years, for EVERYONE to share ancestry from some person who lived then. We

Re: Roots of human family tree are shallow

2006-07-06 Thread David Hobby
Charlie Bell wrote: ... All it takes is one region, somewhere in the world, with negligible cross-contamination probabilities. If this exists, people in the middle of it will not be descendants of Genghis Khan, Charlemagne, or whoever. One small region that's managed to stay TOTALLY isolated

Re: Roots of human family tree are shallow

2006-07-06 Thread David Hobby
Alberto Monteiro wrote: William T Goodall wrote: Ok, so let's do the math. Let's create a simulation model, splitting a human population of 1 Giga into 100-member tribes [easy enough for modern computers], spread these tribes all over the globe, create a rule of cross-contamination [two neighbou

Re: Roots of human family tree are shallow

2006-07-04 Thread David Hobby
The Fool wrote: From: David Hobby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ... I think your math is off. Otherwise there would be a much more even distribution of alleles. No, there doesn't have to be much gene flow at all for everyone to have a recent common ancestor. This is the gist of Alberto

Re: Introductions

2006-07-04 Thread David Hobby
Hello! I'm not sure I'm a regular, but here's a brief intro. I'm 49, married, 3 children, and live in upstate New York. I teach mathematics at a local college, and dabble in the other sciences. Welcome to Brin List. ---David

Re: Roots of human family tree are shallow

2006-07-04 Thread David Hobby
The Fool wrote: From: Alberto Monteiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The Fool wrote: Didn't native americans cross the land bridge circa 14,000 years ago, and remained relatively unconnected to other human populations until circa 1492? The key word is "relatively". There is no true isolation. I'm not

Re: Physics Prof Finds Thermate in WTC Physical Samples

2006-06-29 Thread David Hobby
Dan Minette wrote: ...That is a factin the exact same sense that there is professional consensus on anthropological global warming. Dan-- I always like reading your well-reasoned and careful posts. So forgive me a slight nit-pick: Ignoring Margaret Mead's contribution, I suggest that yo

Re: What is this flower?

2006-06-11 Thread David Hobby
Gary Nunn wrote: Has anyone seen anything like this flower before? I did a Google search, but didn't come up with anything. I probably wasn't using the right terminology. http://www.europastation.com/gary/flower/ Gary-- Ha-ha, good one! Those are CGIs made by Georgia O'Keefe. You can't f

Re: When BatLeths Are Outlawed, Only Outlaws Will Have BatLeths

2006-05-30 Thread David Hobby
Julia Thompson wrote: ... Julia-- Sure, 3 feet (90 cm) I believe. But how much does it weigh? If I just had a normal 3 foot sword, I'd be faster, and speed does matter... ---David Considering wearing a metal gauntlet, so I can grab one (sharp) end, and increase the reach. O

Re: Br!n. Cyrano de Bergerac's "Thrust home." (Hoo-ha!) ::rimshot::

2006-05-30 Thread David Hobby
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe that 'fencing' is the stylized one with lots of silly rules. Maybe you mean 'sword fighting'? ... Yup. Anything involved with staying alive aint fencing. It's not clear to me that having more flexible arms would make much difference to sword fighti

Re: Brin. Cyrano de Bergerac's "Thrust home." (Hoo-ha!) ::rimshot::

2006-05-30 Thread David Hobby
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... In the rehlm of deep underground demonic fiqure skating championships, (i.e. Hell actually becomes minus in temperature according to Alberto) I'm trying to write the Hoon Book of Fencing. I could use some help from fencers--and from anatomists. All Hoon are dou

Re: Hello

2006-05-30 Thread David Hobby
T. Wavis wrote: Figured I'd start afresh. You certainly do seem to be a new member, Mr. Wavis! And a second line, just for the halibut. -Me You do sound a bit like Elmer Fudd, though. : ) ---David ___ http://www

Re: When BatLeths Are Outlawed, Only Outlaws Will Have BatLeths

2006-05-30 Thread David Hobby
Julia Thompson wrote: David Hobby wrote: ... "BatLeth" meant nothing to me, and it's not clear the thing is a very useful weapon. Let me elaborate: The thing is big and clumsy, but doesn't even have any reach to make up for that. It's probably a bit better th

Re: When BatLeths Are Outlawed, Only Outlaws Will Have BatLeths

2006-05-29 Thread David Hobby
Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 08:36 PM Sunday 5/28/2006, David Hobby wrote: Ronn!Blankenship wrote: Apparently that day is here: <<http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2006240126,00.html>> "BatLeth" meant nothing to me, and it's not clear the thing is a very useful

Re: When BatLeths Are Outlawed, Only Outlaws Will Have BatLeths

2006-05-28 Thread David Hobby
Ronn!Blankenship wrote: Apparently that day is here: <> "BatLeth" meant nothing to me, and it's not clear the thing is a very useful weapon. But the part I'm amazed at, is that swords/knives are outlawed? Can someone clarify this for m

Logic, was re: Elegant science ...

2006-05-12 Thread David Hobby
Richard Baker wrote: Nick said: You know, we really don't see anything. We just experience the firing of certain neurons. Everything is mediated by our nervous systems, so we can't directly experience anything. Ever. We can't ever be sure that we're thinking logically either, as we think

Re: Evolutionary Psychology, Memes and the Origin of War

2006-04-25 Thread David Hobby
Keith Henson wrote: I have not been posting here much for a while, sorry to drop this out of the blue on the list http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2006/4/17/194059/296 but it is about topics that have been discussed here recently. Keith-- I liked it, although it seemed a bit long and ramblin

Re: Unspeakably ... now cobweb plots

2006-04-01 Thread David Hobby
Nick Lidster wrote: I figured id use this group for this little question... what do you all know about cobweb plots and its relation to chaos theory? My friend is working with them now and explained it just simply as they are related to chaos theory. Any helpful guidance would be great. Nick--

Re: News

2006-03-29 Thread David Hobby
Charlie Bell wrote: ... Second, we get married and make honest peoples of each other. So we are. I'm going back to Cyprus, we'll try to file a prospective marriage visa within a couple of weeks, and hopefully this'll be the last enforced separation we have to deal with. ... Charlie (and Cla

Re: Is it just me....

2006-03-24 Thread David Hobby
Ritu wrote: David Hobby wrote: I'd even propose that partition into separate countries should be the default for groups with separate languages. Eww! I think that is a pretty bad idea, at least for my part of the world. Just out of curiousity though, when you say 'language&#x

Re: Is it just me....

2006-03-24 Thread David Hobby
... "Semi-autonomous regions" might be a polite way of saying "countries", anyway. The regions would still struggle to control that strong centrally controlled army, wouldn't they? So I bet that this would reduce tensions some, but maybe not solve all the problems. (By the way, exactly who woul

Re: Is it just me....

2006-03-22 Thread David Hobby
Ritu wrote: ... I maintain that a peaceful partition is better than a decade of civil war, followed by the same division. ... I have been thinking about this, and have realised that I'd have less of a problem with a Partition if the people involved decide they want one - after trying to find

Re: Is it just me....

2006-03-22 Thread David Hobby
Andrew Crystall wrote: ... This doesn't fit in with our geo-political plans, or those of Turkey, etc. So what? It would be best for the Iraqi people, and doing what's best for them is about the only remaining excuse for the whole war in the first place. I disagree, because any Kurdish state

Re: Is it just me....

2006-03-21 Thread David Hobby
Ritu wrote: David Hobby wrote: Personally, I think the best solution is to help Iraq turn into three separate countries in a peaceful manner. (One each for the Kurds, Sunnis and Shiites.) And how do you propose that be done? From what I can make out, most Iraqis seem unhappy with the

Re: Is it just me....

2006-03-20 Thread David Hobby
Dan Minette wrote: ... Tom Friedman had two very good columns on Iraq in the last couple of weeks. ... Second, if we withdraw, and the outcome is civil strife/civil war, the middle outcome would be seen. It would be a mitigated disaster, if you would. The Iranian influence on the Shiites would

Re: Semi-Irregulars Questions about Sparks in Space

2006-03-15 Thread David Hobby
Robert Seeberger wrote: Robert J. Chassell wrote: Now I'm wondering if there are sparks when a ship docks at the space station ... Interesting. First, I don't think there would be actual sparks. Electrical sparks happen when the potential gradient between two charged objects is too stee

Re: The Continuing Saga of BD...

2006-03-02 Thread David Hobby
Doug Pensinger wrote: ...who, after having lost a leg in Iraq, has PTSD. The story is spread out over several months, starting last November. http://tinyurl.com/k35z2 Doug-- Thanks. I always used to read Doonesbury, until twenty years ago when it was no longer in the paper. : ) Still goi

Re: Cool space picture

2006-02-04 Thread David Hobby
Michael Harney wrote: Deborah Harrell wrote: I was looking up the Horsehead Nebula for a friend, and happened across this -- what a nifty cosmic Rorschack (?sp) test! http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap060119.html I see: -a saint (or other bearded fellow with outstretched hand) -a frontal vie

Good China Mieville interview

2005-04-03 Thread David Hobby
Back from lurking to ghostpost. : ) This is a nice interview, mostly about _Iron Council_: http://www.believermag.com/issues/200504/interview_mieville.php ---David ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: sci am editorial

2005-03-22 Thread David Hobby
d.brin wrote: I don't know if this is for real. Oughta be. ... An upcoming* Scientific America editorial: "There's no easy way to admit this. For years, helpful letter writers told us to stick to science. ... If "real" means "has appeared in print", then yes. I have the issue in hand. Sc

Re: [Satire] Flintstones Are Way Too Gay

2005-03-11 Thread David Hobby
A search for Flintstone's porn reveala little in gay themes but quite a lot of other. (What would we do without search engines?) Gary Denton You know, I never would have thought to look. ---David What would we do WITH search engines?

Re: You will be sorry you asked: was Re: Counting

2005-03-08 Thread David Hobby
Trent Shipley wrote: ... I did not recognize this as a simple pigeonhole problem of 2n choose n, so I cross posted to lists where I thought I might get help and would not be accused of an off topic post. David Hobby, do you live in the Phoenix area? No, upstate New York. This is a design issue

Re: br1n:quantum darwin?

2005-03-04 Thread David Hobby
Dan Minette wrote: David, Do you happen to know what physics journal this work is in? Or hasn't the journal article come out yet? I've read some of their stuff on decoherence a few years ago and found it to be rather interesting. Thanks, Dan M. Dan-- The discussion seems to have wandered by now.

Re: Counting

2005-03-04 Thread David Hobby
Trent Shipley wrote: What the I can't find any context for this. But see comments, below. ---David ... 2th item: 4 places: 0011 0101 0110 1001 1010 1100

Re: Wis. City's Schools Allowing Creationism

2004-11-07 Thread David Hobby
Damon Agretto wrote: I wasn't aware that creationism was a scientific theory... If you are flexible with the meaning of "science", then you can include creationism, astrology, phlogistum, platygaeaism, etc as "scientific hypotheses" with the necessary addendum "rejected by the scientific method".

Dolphin article

2004-09-29 Thread David Hobby
The evidence is not very good, but it's a cute idea. I think Nature requires registration, so I pasted all the text below. ---David --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] article: Are dolphins sensing global forces? The address is: http://www.n

Re: Is Jennings' 'Jeopardy!' Run Over?

2004-09-11 Thread David Hobby
... I'm glad they got rid of the 5 day limit. However it makes me wonder how many of the 5 day champs could have gone on to impressive winning streaks. I remember a few others who went on to handily win the Tournament of Champions. They could. The lack of limit with a long streak brings heightened

Re: Is Jennings' 'Jeopardy!' Run Over?

2004-09-09 Thread David Hobby
Travis Edmunds wrote: ... LOS ANGELES -- Has Ken Jennings ended his "Jeopardy!" streak? A report posted Wednesday on TV Week's Web site said the brainy software engineer lost in a show taped Tuesday, ... = I can't help but root for the

Re: JDG-Type ...Fool, this is out-of-line.

2004-08-30 Thread David Hobby
The Fool wrote: Let's NOT have a flamewar with the TITLES of our posts? ---David ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

The Village, with mild spoilers

2004-08-30 Thread David Hobby
S P O I L E R S S P O I L E R S I liked the timeless quality to the Village itself. It could have been set any time from 1800 or so on. And one would not know what life was like in the Towns without going outside to see. It really could have been anything. Although it seemed unlikely that it wo

Re: The Village - no spoilers....

2004-08-30 Thread David Hobby
Bryon Daly wrote: On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 01:25:45 -0400, Gary Nunn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Has anyone seen M. Night Shyamalan's "The Village"? Yes, saw it a couple weeks ago. It's a good movie, but MNS seems to be stuck on the same themes. I'd say he has taken about two movie's worth of material,

Brin: BASIC, etc

2004-08-12 Thread David Hobby
n. Something as simple as "forward 100" gets results--the turtle moves forward on the screen. Learning to write loops has an immediate payback in terms of what one can do, as does learning to use procedures. ---David Hobby Well, I tried... : )

Re: Tytlal designed test at an Uplift Ceremony

2004-06-16 Thread David Hobby
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tytlal designed test Trying to give clearer statements: OK... I'm thinking of using this as a test at the Rousit Uplift Ceremony: - You are a Rousit in a party of ten Rousits. Since you can't speak, the tytlal are going to work on an equal level and only gi

Re: Tytlal designed test at an Uplift Ceremony

2004-06-15 Thread David Hobby
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Here's an original answer. You have an infinite supply of towels. So fill the space between the tables with enough towels to make a bridge from one table to the other. Then slowly push all three pies at once along the bridge. ---David ... Ok, I've already figured out

Re: Tytlal designed test at an Uplift Ceremony

2004-06-15 Thread David Hobby
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tytlal designed test OK... I'm thinking of using this as a test at the Rousit Uplift Ceremony: ... There are three cream pies on a table. Five meters away is another table. Both tables have stacks of small towls, smaller than a pie. Anytime a towl is used, another one i

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