Re: Brin: AIs Nanos... dangerous children?

2005-12-03 Thread Julia Thompson
Dave Land wrote: On Nov 30, 2005, at 11:30 AM, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: The only problem with that suggestion is that it's people who feel like you do who believe in gun control, while it's the conservatives and the Christians who have all the firearms . . . :P Not all Christians are

Re: Brin: AIs Nanos... dangerous children?

2005-12-02 Thread Julia Thompson
Dave Land wrote: On Nov 29, 2005, at 8:32 PM, Warren Ockrassa wrote: The problem is that a lot of innocent people will suffer and die in the process. I guess that's why I vacillate between disgust and intolerance for such idiots, but never anything like a quiet shrug. So on my good days

Re: Brin: AIs Nanos... dangerous children?

2005-11-30 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 10:32 PM Tuesday 11/29/2005, Warren Ockrassa wrote: On Nov 26, 2005, at 11:51 PM, Dave Land wrote: On Nov 26, 2005, at 9:47 PM, Warren Ockrassa wrote: On Nov 21, 2005, at 2:05 PM, David Brin wrote: Two very strong points. Though please remember there are some honest and intelligent

Re: Brin: AIs Nanos... dangerous children?

2005-11-30 Thread Dave Land
On Nov 30, 2005, at 11:30 AM, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: The only problem with that suggestion is that it's people who feel like you do who believe in gun control, while it's the conservatives and the Christians who have all the firearms . . . :P Not all Christians are fundamentalists.

Re: Brin: AIs Nanos... dangerous children?

2005-11-29 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Nov 26, 2005, at 11:51 PM, Dave Land wrote: On Nov 26, 2005, at 9:47 PM, Warren Ockrassa wrote: On Nov 21, 2005, at 2:05 PM, David Brin wrote: Two very strong points. Though please remember there are some honest and intelligent Republicans. I even know a few. FWIW, my state has

RE: Brin: AIs Nanos... dangerous children?

2005-11-29 Thread Andrew Paul
From: Warren Ockrassa Probably I'm confusing correlation with causation again. It does happen to me from time to time. Maybe a better formulation is that those who are vicious, money-grubbing bastard Republicans who weep crocodile tears *after* getting caught (as opposed to those who

Re: Brin: AIs Nanos... dangerous children?

2005-11-29 Thread Dave Land
On Nov 29, 2005, at 8:32 PM, Warren Ockrassa wrote: On Nov 26, 2005, at 11:51 PM, Dave Land wrote: On Nov 26, 2005, at 9:47 PM, Warren Ockrassa wrote: On Nov 21, 2005, at 2:05 PM, David Brin wrote: Two very strong points. Though please remember there are some honest and intelligent

Re: Brin: AIs Nanos... dangerous children?

2005-11-27 Thread Julia Thompson
Warren Ockrassa wrote: On Nov 21, 2005, at 2:05 PM, David Brin wrote: Two very strong points. Though please remember there are some honest and intelligent Republicans. I even know a few. FWIW, my state has McCain, and my stepfather is without question one of the most upstanding men I've

Re: Brin: AIs Nanos... dangerous children?

2005-11-27 Thread David Brin
--- Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are a few, but they're the ones who have not been polluted by religion. This is unfortunate. The churches and the military were allies with liberalism in fighting for civil rights. Many religious people are also progressive. e.g. Jimmy

Re: Brin: AIs Nanos... dangerous children?

2005-11-26 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Nov 21, 2005, at 2:05 PM, David Brin wrote: Two very strong points. Though please remember there are some honest and intelligent Republicans. I even know a few. FWIW, my state has McCain, and my stepfather is without question one of the most upstanding men I've ever known — and as a

Re: Brin: AIs Nanos... dangerous children?

2005-11-26 Thread Dave Land
On Nov 26, 2005, at 9:47 PM, Warren Ockrassa wrote: On Nov 21, 2005, at 2:05 PM, David Brin wrote: Two very strong points. Though please remember there are some honest and intelligent Republicans. I even know a few. FWIW, my state has McCain, and my stepfather is without question one

Brin: AIs Nanos... dangerous children?

2005-11-21 Thread The Fool
Yes. Dr Brin, why exactly do we need to develop AI's that are self aware at all? Their are certain problems that can be avoided entirely by keeping technology smart enough to do it's job, but not smart enough to think for itself. As you say the only way would be to raise them as if they were

Re: Brin: AIs Nanos... dangerous children?

2005-11-21 Thread Dave Land
On Nov 21, 2005, at 6:07 AM, The Fool wrote: As for Nonos, it seems like a lot of the nano tech you describe would likely need an immune system to fight off regular pathogens, engineereed malicious pathogens and nanotech, and badly designed / escaped / evolving nanotech. Enter nanospam:

Re: Brin: AIs Nanos... dangerous children?

2005-11-21 Thread David Brin
Two very strong points. Though please remember there are some honest and intelligent Republicans. I even know a few. --- The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes. Dr Brin, why exactly do we need to develop AI's that are self aware at all? Their are certain problems that can be avoided