Re: Brin: More on the environmental movement

2004-04-23 Thread JDG
At 06:18 PM 4/22/2004 -0700 Davd Brin wrote: If Jesus arrived today, he would not give a damn about markets, and they know it. He said give the shirt off your back to the poor RIGHT NOW! He did not teach a man to fish, he gave the man fish. Face it, if he arrived here today, he would not be a

Re: Brin: More on the environmental movement

2004-04-23 Thread Davd Brin
--- JDG Somehow, I don't think that Jesus would concern himself with tax policy if he returned. Instead, he would concern himself with individual salvation. In fact, early Christians thought it would not matter. That the End of Days was at hand. It took more than a century for them to stop

Re: Brin: More on the environmental movement

2004-04-23 Thread The Fool
From: Davd Brin [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- JDG Somehow, I don't think that Jesus would concern himself with tax policy if he returned. Instead, he would concern himself with individual salvation. In fact, early Christians thought it would not matter. That the End of Days was at hand.

Re: Brin: More on the environmental movement

2004-04-23 Thread Damon Agretto
A lot of 'christians' still hold this meme. They are so obsessed with Armageddon coming or the rapture that they literally throw their lives and lives of their children down the toilet. Jehovah's Witnesses are especially prone to this kind of thinking. But it goes further than that.

Re: Brin: More on the environmental movement

2004-04-23 Thread Davd Brin
--- Damon Agretto After all if Dog's going to destroy it all anyway... Replace a lot with some and I think you'd be much closer to actuality... I agree, but mainly in the context of the sub-meme of American tolerant enlightenment pragmatism. Those who reject this sub-meme often go the

Re: Brin: More on the environmental movement

2004-04-23 Thread Keith Henson
At 06:18 PM 22/04/04 -0700, you wrote: Thanks for sending this. My response is complex so please let me put it into context. snip ... and so on. The latest, attacking Kerrey's war record, shows just how biliously crazy these people are. 6) It is rooted, of course, in the us-vs-them attitude

Re: Brin: More on the environmental movement

2004-04-22 Thread The Fool
Dr. Brin, several right-wingers on the list have been posting screeds like this one against the environment and environmentalism. I am curious as to your thoughts on the matter, as I think this particular article is one of the most mendacious pieces of propaganda ever written. -- From:

Re: Brin: More on the environmental movement

2004-04-22 Thread Davd Brin
Thanks for sending this. My response is complex so please let me put it into context. 1) The Left-vs-Right political axis is a piece of arrant nonsense that I have inveighed against before. If nothing else can kill this undead piece of mind-limiting drivel, it should be the fact that the damn

Re: Brin: More on the environmental movement

2004-04-22 Thread Matthew and Julie Bos
On 4/22/04 7:08 PM, The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am curious as to your thoughts on the matter, as I think this particular article is one of the most mendacious pieces of propaganda ever written. Kevin, take this as a complement from Kneem! Because we all know what he posts it the