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Subject: Re: Enterprise Cancelled
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 22:51:40 -0330
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Subject: Re: Enterprise Cancelled
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 01:23:34 +
On 8 Feb 2005, at 7:24 pm, Travis Edmunds wrote:
From: William T Goodall [EMAIL
At 12:05 PM Tuesday 2/8/2005, Warren Ockrassa wrote:
On Feb 8, 2005, at 10:25 AM, Travis Edmunds wrote:
From: Kevin Street [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It sounded like the plan
was to create an original film with new characters, set in the Trek
universe.
An original film with new characters...
Without a
In contrast with the first one, which didn'thave any action, either . . .
I dunno why this one gets so much flak. I personally liked it.
Damon.
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In contrast with the first one, which didn'thave any action, either . . .
I dunno why this one gets so
On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 20:35:21 -0500, Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In contrast with the first one, which didn'thave any action, either . .
.
I dunno why this one gets so much flak. I personally liked it.
Me too.
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Subject: RE: Enterprise Cancelled
Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2005 01:00:52 -0700
Travis Edmunds:
Somebody (I think it was Berman) said that the Trek franchise might
On Feb 8, 2005, at 10:25 AM, Travis Edmunds wrote:
From: Kevin Street [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It sounded like the plan
was to create an original film with new characters, set in the Trek
universe.
An original film with new characters...
Without a television series to enable the characters to truly take
You haven't seen the last few Trek movies, have you?
Mindless action
film is a pretty good description for any one of
them.
That's the way its been for a while. Star Trek stopped
being about SF and started being a character driven
franchise a long time ago. That's why Kirk had to have
a
On Feb 8, 2005, at 10:11 AM, Damon Agretto wrote:
You haven't seen the last few Trek movies, have you?
Mindless action
film is a pretty good description for any one of
them.
That's the way its been for a while. Star Trek stopped
being about SF and started being a character driven
franchise a long
On Feb 8, 2005, at 11:11 AM, Damon Agretto wrote:
You haven't seen the last few Trek movies, have you?
Mindless action
film is a pretty good description for any one of
them.
That's the way its been for a while. Star Trek stopped
being about SF and started being a character driven
franchise a long
From: Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: Enterprise Cancelled
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 11:05:32 -0700
On Feb 8, 2005, at 10:25 AM, Travis Edmunds wrote:
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From: Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: Enterprise Cancelled
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 10:44:15 -0800
On Feb 8, 2005, at 10:11 AM, Damon Agretto wrote:
You haven't seen the last few Trek movies
On Feb 8, 2005, at 11:46 AM, Travis Edmunds wrote:
But we were still dealing with temporally developed characters.
Consequently, we the audience have certain character-specific
expectations - i.e. the goosebumps a die-hard Trekkie/Trekker (the
latter being my generation) gets when Kirk is
On Feb 8, 2005, at 11:49 AM, Travis Edmunds wrote:
From: Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED]
His cheap death comes in the form of his poetry.
lol
I want to sleep with common people, like you.
-Bill Shatner/some song off his new album-
The poetry comment *is* funny. The quote -- hmm, does he mean like you
From: Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: Enterprise Cancelled
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 11:57:53 -0700
On Feb 8, 2005, at 11:46 AM, Travis Edmunds wrote:
But we were still dealing
On 8 Feb 2005, at 7:00 pm, Warren Ockrassa wrote:
On Feb 8, 2005, at 11:49 AM, Travis Edmunds wrote:
From: Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED]
His cheap death comes in the form of his poetry.
lol
I want to sleep with common people, like you.
-Bill Shatner/some song off his new album-
The poetry comment
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Subject: Re: Enterprise Cancelled
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 12:00:01 -0700
On Feb 8, 2005, at 11:49 AM, Travis Edmunds wrote:
From: Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED]
His
From: William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: Enterprise Cancelled
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 19:21:45 +
On 8 Feb 2005, at 7:00 pm, Warren Ockrassa wrote:
On Feb 8, 2005, at 11:49 AM, Travis
On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 12:00:01 -0700, Warren Ockrassa
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On Feb 8, 2005, at 11:49 AM, Travis Edmunds wrote:
From: Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED]
His cheap death comes in the form of his poetry.
lol
I want to sleep with common people, like you.
-Bill
On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 15:12:02 -0600, Gary Denton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 12:00:01 -0700, Warren Ockrassa
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On Feb 8, 2005, at 11:49 AM, Travis Edmunds wrote:
From: Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED]
His cheap death comes in the form of his poetry.
On 8 Feb 2005, at 7:24 pm, Travis Edmunds wrote:
From: William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
That's a cover of 'Common People' by Pulp.
Pulp sucks. So does being one-upped by you.
'Common People' got to #2 in the UK charts in '95. And Mrs Wife thinks
it's a great song...
Shatner's cover is quite
http://tinyurl.com/3rtec
Fans are attempting to organise to pay for another season.
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Um. Why the hell do I care anyway? I don't think I do. After trying to
like the first Tek war novel I gave up totally on Shatner's writing
abilities.
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I read the first two Tek War books and said enough is
On Feb 8, 2005, at 6:26 PM, William T Goodall wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/3rtec
Fans are attempting to organise to pay for another season.
There are times when democracy is not a good thing.
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Current work in progress
Travis Edmunds:
Somebody (I think it was Berman) said that the Trek franchise might
continue as original theatrical movies, after resting for a few
years.
What's the plan? DS9? Voyager?
I don't recall him discussing any specific movies. It sounded like the plan
was to create an original
On Sat, 05 Feb 2005 01:00:52 -0700, Kevin Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Travis Edmunds:
Somebody (I think it was Berman) said that the Trek franchise might
continue as original theatrical movies, after resting for a few
years.
What's the plan? DS9? Voyager?
I don't recall him
Gary Denton wrote (quoting someone else):
Well, I know that you're in love with Trip
'Cause I saw you squeein' like a drip.
You both dug into pie.
Man, you dig that drawlin' blond guy.
Well, that's what was doing it for *me*. :) Damn, but I like that
character!
Julia
On Feb 3, 2005, at 5:54 PM, Kevin Street wrote:
Somebody (I think it was Berman) said that the Trek franchise might
continue
as original theatrical movies, after resting for a few years.
IMO, Berman is more or less directly responsible for the destruction of
the Trek franchise. He believed, for
From: Kevin Street [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: RE: Enterprise Cancelled
Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 17:54:30 -0700
Travis Edmunds quoted:
http://space.com/entertainment/enterprise_cancelled_050203.html
Yeah, this is a real downer. I've come to love Enterprise over the last
two years, but the ratings just kept declining.
Somebody (I think it was Berman) said that the Trek franchise might continue
as original theatrical movies, after resting for a few years.
I think they need to rest
Warren Ockrassa wrote:
Somebody (I think it was Berman) said that the Trek franchise might
continue
as original theatrical movies, after resting for a few years.
IMO, Berman is more or less directly responsible for the destruction of
the Trek franchise. He believed, for instance, that
On Feb 4, 2005, at 10:39 PM, G. D. Akin wrote:
Warren Ockrassa wrote:
Somebody (I think it was Berman) said that the Trek franchise might
continue
as original theatrical movies, after resting for a few years.
IMO, Berman is more or less directly responsible for the destruction
of
the Trek
Travis Edmunds quoted:
http://space.com/entertainment/enterprise_cancelled_050203.html
The prequel to the original ``Star Trek'' science fiction series will air
its final episode in the United States on May
3, UPN and Paramount Network Television announced Wednesday.
Yeah, this is a real
Its on the bubble for next season. Something about half a season will be
done if the series is decided to be dropped. Just to clue it up... and
the 5 ep that are remaining are for this season.
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At 09:50 AM 4/27/2004 -0230 Nick Lidster wrote:
Its on the bubble for next season. Something about half a season will be
done if the series is decided to be dropped. Just to clue it up... and
the 5 ep that are remaining are for this season.
Time to put it out of its misery.
JDG
Time to put it out of its misery.
Ah, but just think what it COULD have been!
Damon, who finds the Temporal Cold War and the current
story less than satisfying...
=
Damon Agretto
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Ah, but just think what it COULD have been!
I kind of enjoyed the first season, but came to dislike the way they
rewrote the past, doing things that we know from the later shows didn't
really happen in the ST universe.
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Subject: Re: Enterprise cancelled?
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 08:51:27 -0400
Ah, but just think what it COULD have been!
I kind of enjoyed the first season, but came
I kind of enjoyed the first season, but came to
dislike the way they
rewrote the past, doing things that we know from
the later shows didn't
really happen in the ST universe.
Perhaps it's all part of the Temporal Cold War. For
all we know, the 'real'
timeline may not be real at all.
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Subject: Re: Enterprise cancelled?
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 06:28:26 -0700 (PDT)
Perhaps it's all part of the Temporal Cold War. For
all we know, the 'real'
timeline
Why wouldn't writers want to maintain continuity in a popular
fictional Universe? Ask yourself that question and that theory takes a
major blow.
Why would they? Unless they're sad fanboys themselves, which they
rarely are, they're never concerned with continuity. It's too difficult
to
Why would they? Unless they're sad fanboys
themselves, which they
rarely are, they're never concerned with continuity.
It's too difficult
to maintain; so much easier not even to bother.
That way you can do
anything you like. It's the producers'
responsibility to prevent this,
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Subject: Re: Enterprise cancelled?
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 10:06:18 -0400
Why wouldn't writers want to maintain continuity in a popular fictional
Universe? Ask yourself
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Subject: Re: Enterprise cancelled?
Why wouldn't writers want to maintain continuity in a popular
fictional Universe? Ask yourself that question
however it has arrived. first instance, take EP 23
of season 2,
Regeneration, its based on the debris field left by
the borg sphere in the
movie First Contact. There were technical problems
that were used by the
writers the urked me however it falls within the
confines of the time
line.
The problem I have, currently with Trek, is the overreliance
on plot motivations coming from TIME TRAVEL. This plot device
has been so overused its become a Trek cliche.
I disagree. I think the time travel stuff is great. In fact, I think the
next series should be based upon the time corp,
At 08:28 AM 4/27/04, Damon Agretto wrote:
I kind of enjoyed the first season, but came to
dislike the way they
rewrote the past, doing things that we know from
the later shows didn't
really happen in the ST universe.
Perhaps it's all part of the Temporal Cold War. For
all we know, the
At 01:53 PM 4/27/04, Thomas Beck wrote:
Nah. The last episode will have Captain Archer wake up in bed with
Suzanne Pleshette and realize it was all a dream.
Be even better if he awakes in bed with Bob Newhart...
;-)
-- Ronn! :)
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Damon Agretto wrote:
Even though I love the Andorans (and have
been complaining for years that they were an underused
race that dissappeared in NextGen and later, and only
had a cameo appearance in ST4)
There's an Andoran in Voyager.
Alberto Monteiro
It's Colonel Flagg meets Mulder.
Col. Flagg??? Wow, that's a name I haven't heard for years. I assume
that is a MASH reference? :-)
As much as I hate to criticize ST:E, I think they have made nothing more
than a half-hearted attempt to cash in on the Star Trek franchise. As
Damon said, just
There's an Andoran in Voyager.
Umm I never remembered one!
Damon.
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I briefly looked online but couldn't find anything on this
On the upcoming preview for next weeks Enterprise episode, the announcer
said Only 5 new episodes left. They could have meant until the season
finale, but the wording led me to believe otherwise. Has anyone heard
anything?
Gary
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