On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 9:21 PM, John Williams wrote:
>
> I have posted articles that list a number of state mandates for health
> care plans. If a provider were to dare to sell a policy to a willing
> buyer, and that policy did not, for example, cover acupuncture in
> certain states, the provider
On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 2:40 AM, John Williams wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Nick Arnett wrote:
> > Don't you know that government interference in markets is bad,
> > but corporate interference in markets is good?
>
> Corporations do not have the power to compel people at gunpoint to d
dsummersmi...@comcast.net wrote:
> An interesting aside on this. It took the Mercury program a bit over 9
> months to go from the first sub-orbital flight to the first orbital flight.
>
> The big private enterprise sub-orbital flight happened almost 5 years ago
> (5 years this coming November I
And here is my reply:
Very good. I should have dug deeper on their website before opening my
mouth. :-)
--[Lance]
Dan M wrote:
> Somehow this just went to the author instead of the list. So, I'm
> reposting, even though I got a nice reply from Lance.
>
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On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 8:51 PM, Dave Land wrote:
> Right. I'm always getting a gun pointed at my head when I go to the damn
> doctor.
I have posted articles that list a number of state mandates for health
care plans. If a provider were to dare to sell a policy to a willing
buyer, and that policy
On Jul 19, 2009, at 2:40 AM, John Williams wrote:
On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Nick Arnett
wrote:
Don't you know that government interference in markets is bad,
but corporate interference in markets is good?
Corporations do not have the power to compel people at gunpoint to do
as they s
On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Nick Arnett wrote:
> Don't you know that government interference in markets is bad,
> but corporate interference in markets is good?
Corporations do not have the power to compel people at gunpoint to do
as they say. Government lawmakers do. That is a huge differenc
On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 12:24 AM, Doug Pensinger wrote:
>
> No, there is no communication problem. In its most basic definition, a
> free market is a market that is free from government intervention. What has
> become painfully obvious in recent years is that as the market frees itself
> from g
Hi Doug, everyone.
I think that both groups & the free market sometimes make better decisions than
individuals, but that the answer to life the universe and everything, returning
to the moon and health care, is finding ways to allow groups to make better
decisions than individuals every single
> -Original Message-
> From: brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com [mailto:brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com] On
> Behalf Of John Williams
> Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 12:32 PM
> To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion
> Subject: Re: WeChooseTheMoon
>
> On Thu, Jul 1
On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 1:47 AM, Doug Pensinger wrote:
> No, what I believe is that regarding matters that effect a group of people
> we often make better, more responsible choices when we act as a group rather
> than as an individual. We are inherently selfish, but we understand that
> selflessne
>
>
> Which is to say that you believe you know better how people should
> spend their money than they do themselves. That people need to have
> their money confiscated and spent by the intellectual elite since
> otherwise people would spend it on a bunch of crap.
>
No, what I believe is that rega
On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 12:24 AM, Doug Pensinger wrote:
> No, there is no communication problem. In its most basic definition, a free
> market is a market that is free from government intervention. What has
> become painfully obvious in recent years is that as the market frees itself
> from gove
John wrote:
I think I see a communication problem here. You talk of the "free
> market" as if it were a thing, like a replicator on Star Trek that
> provides food. When I talk of a free market, I mean the state of not
> restricting or coercing people in their choices to freely interact
> with eac
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 5:55 PM, Dan M wrote:
> Folks do get health care, just not in an efficient or timely fashion. In
> fact, my Republican congressman says that about 20% of the cost of health
> care for those with insurance is covering the care and the overhead for
> hiding the cost of the c
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 4:25 PM, Doug Pensinger wrote:
> So if there was some vital benefit to society and it couldn't be provided
> without a financial loss, how would the free market provide it?
I think I see a communication problem here. You talk of the "free
market" as if it were a thing, lik
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 4:25 PM, Doug Pensinger wrote:
> And why isn't it a free market?
Because people in the government tell people what healthcare they can
and cannot have, how it can be paid for, and what must be done to get
it. And it restricts what health care providers and insurers may
off
From: brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com [mailto:brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com] On
Behalf Of Doug Pensinger
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 6:26 PM
To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion
Subject: Re: WeChooseTheMoon
John wrote:
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 8:58 PM
John wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 8:58 PM, Doug Pensinger wrote:
>
> > Absolutely not, but isn't that how the free market works; the people with
> > money/power decide what's in the best interest of the people they
> control?
>
> People they control? Huh? Politicians and regulators control peo
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 9:27 AM, Dave Land wrote:
> As individuals decide what is best for themselves, they are doing do for
> the entire market/species.
I don't follow that at all. When politicians decide what special
interests to pander to, they force the "entire market/species" to do
what is b
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 8:58 PM, Doug Pensinger wrote:
> Absolutely not, but isn't that how the free market works; the people with
> money/power decide what's in the best interest of the people they control?
People they control? Huh? Politicians and regulators control people.
Free market allows p
On Jul 16, 2009, at 8:43 PM, John Williams wrote:
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 7:39 PM, Doug Pensinger wrote:
A free market economy has its limits? The goals of a free market
economy
aren't necessarily aligned with the best interests of the species?
Huh? Best interest of the species? How many
John wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 7:39 PM, Doug Pensinger wrote:
>
> > A free market economy has its limits? The goals of a free market economy
> > aren't necessarily aligned with the best interests of the species?
>
> Huh? Best interest of the species? How many starving or sick people
> cou
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 7:39 PM, Doug Pensinger wrote:
> A free market economy has its limits? The goals of a free market economy
> aren't necessarily aligned with the best interests of the species?
Huh? Best interest of the species? How many starving or sick people
could have been helped with t
Dan wrote:
> There is something fundamental going on here, IMHO.
A free market economy has its limits? The goals of a free market economy
aren't necessarily aligned with the best interests of the species?
Doug
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From: Bruce Bostwick lihan161...@sbcglobal.net
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:04:59 -0500
To: brin-l@mccmedia.com
Subject: Re: WeChooseTheMoon
>It seems like a cruel joke nowadays, that 1950's-1960's technology
>landed human beings on the moon
On Jul 16, 2009, at 3:34 PM, John Garcia wrote:
Alan Shepard launched in May 1961. The last lunar mission, Apollo 17
launched in Dec 1972. Eleven years to go from one sub-orbital flight
to spending 3 days on the moon. That is an incredible
accomplishment, the likes of which we may never see
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 12:32 PM, dsummersmi...@comcast.net <
dsummersmi...@comcast.net> wrote:
> An interesting aside on this. It took the Mercury program a bit over 9
> months to go from the first sub-orbital flight to the first orbital flight.
>
> The big private enterprise sub-orbital flight
ay, July 16, 2009 11:33 AM
> To: brin-l@mccmedia.com
> Subject: RE: WeChooseTheMoon
>
> An interesting aside on this. It took the Mercury program a bit over 9
> months to go from the first sub-orbital flight to the first orbital
> flight.
>
> The big private enterprise s
An interesting aside on this. It took the Mercury program a bit over 9
months to go from the first sub-orbital flight to the first orbital flight.
The big private enterprise sub-orbital flight happened almost 5 years ago
(5 years this coming November IIRC). It cost 100 million to develop, and
wo
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