Re: Release process rolling new releases

2015-04-16 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Woohoo! Congratulations to everyone involved! :-) Ludo’.

Re: Release process rolling new releases

2015-04-09 Thread Justus Winter
Quoting Thomas Schwinge (2015-04-09 09:57:05) Hi! On Wed, 08 Apr 2015 00:35:17 +0200, Justus Winter 4win...@informatik.uni-hamburg.de wrote: Quoting Thomas Schwinge (2014-09-23 17:09:30) The (technical) release process is not the problem; that I can do any time. Awesome! Let's

Re: Release process rolling new releases

2015-04-09 Thread Thomas Schwinge
Hi! On Wed, 08 Apr 2015 00:35:17 +0200, Justus Winter 4win...@informatik.uni-hamburg.de wrote: Quoting Thomas Schwinge (2014-09-23 17:09:30) The (technical) release process is not the problem; that I can do any time. Awesome! Let's make one now. :-) Will do tomorrow morning. I know the

Re: Release process rolling new releases

2015-04-07 Thread Justus Winter
Quoting Thomas Schwinge (2014-09-23 17:09:30) The (technical) release process is not the problem; that I can do any time. Awesome! Let's make one now. Justus

Hurd development (was: Release process rolling new releases)

2015-01-16 Thread Justus Winter
Hello :) Quoting Thomas Schwinge (2014-11-22 18:00:06) Justus, believe me, I do understand your frustration. Thank you very much for being insistent, instead of just going away. It has been two months, time to escalate the issue again :) The glibc change is trivial. And even if the change

Re: Hurd development (was: Release process rolling new releases)

2015-01-16 Thread Samuel Thibault
Justus Winter, le Fri 16 Jan 2015 11:42:23 +0100, a écrit : Our development process is severely broken. Or noone gives a shit anymore. Or both. I really cannot tell. Possibly part of the former. Definitely not the latter. Personally, I've been unfortunately stuck with various unexpected

Re: Hurd development (was: Release process rolling new releases)

2015-01-16 Thread Justus Winter
Quoting Samuel Thibault (2015-01-16 11:56:14) Justus Winter, le Fri 16 Jan 2015 11:42:23 +0100, a écrit : I have reimplemented the startup server. The new server does not support the startup protocol over its message port. This change has not made it into the glibc. The shutdown isn't

Re: Hurd development (was: Release process rolling new releases)

2015-01-16 Thread Justus Winter
Quoting Samuel Thibault (2015-01-16 12:08:07) Justus Winter, le Fri 16 Jan 2015 12:01:26 +0100, a écrit : No it is not. You mean in Debian? Yes. I have a new server that implements the startup protocol, and it neither has a fixed PID nor does it speak the startup protocol over its

Re: Release process rolling new releases

2014-11-23 Thread Justus Winter
Quoting Samuel Thibault (2014-11-23 21:11:05) Hello, David Michael, le Wed 19 Nov 2014 19:39:43 -0500, a écrit : The only issue was that /etc/hurd/runsystem.hurd didn't get installed. I tacked the following onto patch #4 in the series to try it. Justus, do we need it? I guess it cannot

Re: Release process rolling new releases

2014-11-23 Thread David Michael
On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 4:01 PM, Justus Winter 4win...@informatik.uni-hamburg.de wrote: Quoting Samuel Thibault (2014-11-23 21:11:05) Hello, David Michael, le Wed 19 Nov 2014 19:39:43 -0500, a écrit : The only issue was that /etc/hurd/runsystem.hurd didn't get installed. I tacked the

Re: Release process rolling new releases

2014-11-22 Thread Thomas Schwinge
Hi! Justus, believe me, I do understand your frustration. Thank you very much for being insistent, instead of just going away. On Thu, 20 Nov 2014 14:03:43 +0100, Justus Winter 4win...@informatik.uni-hamburg.de wrote: Either more people have to review the patches, or we need to change the

Re: Release process rolling new releases

2014-11-20 Thread Justus Winter
Quoting Samuel Thibault (2014-11-20 00:59:23) I'm however wondering: I don't see much reviewing being done apart from mine. It would help if some people could spend time on reviewing patches. I'm not saying taking responsibility for the commit step or anything, but just proofreading the

Re: Release process rolling new releases

2014-11-19 Thread Samuel Thibault
Justus Winter, le Mon 17 Nov 2014 16:30:18 +0100, a écrit : It has now been 2.5 months since I posted that startup patch series, and 2 months since I suggested rolling new releases. I'm annoyed. I understand this feeling. I'm still waiting (since several years) for some patch series to get

Re: Release process rolling new releases

2014-11-19 Thread David Michael
On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 6:59 PM, Samuel Thibault samuel.thiba...@gnu.org wrote: Justus Winter, le Mon 17 Nov 2014 16:30:18 +0100, a écrit : It has now been 2.5 months since I posted that startup patch series, and 2 months since I suggested rolling new releases. I'm annoyed. I understand

Re: Release process rolling new releases

2014-11-17 Thread Justus Winter
Quoting Justus Winter (2014-10-28 22:17:18) Hello :) Quoting Samuel Thibault (2014-10-06 11:30:26) Thomas Schwinge, le Mon 06 Oct 2014 11:22:50 +0200, a écrit : So, anything specific that we should wait for before bundling the next release snapshots? It'd be nice to include the

Re: Release process rolling new releases

2014-10-28 Thread Justus Winter
Hello :) Quoting Samuel Thibault (2014-10-06 11:30:26) Thomas Schwinge, le Mon 06 Oct 2014 11:22:50 +0200, a écrit : So, anything specific that we should wait for before bundling the next release snapshots? It'd be nice to include the init-startup series after review. (I'm OK with the

Re: Release process rolling new releases

2014-10-06 Thread Thomas Schwinge
Hi! On Tue, 23 Sep 2014 18:42:00 +0200, Justus Winter 4win...@informatik.uni-hamburg.de wrote: [new releases] I'll propose updates for the NEWS files. Thanks for these! (It's of course fine to directly include updates to those files in any commits whose changes are NEWS-file-worthy.) So,

Re: Release process rolling new releases

2014-10-06 Thread Samuel Thibault
Thomas Schwinge, le Mon 06 Oct 2014 11:22:50 +0200, a écrit : So, anything specific that we should wait for before bundling the next release snapshots? It'd be nice to include the init-startup series after review. (I'm OK with the principle, we need to review the patch, and get the glibc ack

Release process rolling new releases

2014-09-23 Thread Justus Winter
Hi Thomas, hi Samuel :) I understand you took care of the release process last time. Is this process documented somewhere? I think that we should make another round of releases. In fact, we should make one or two releases each year. At the very least it brings us quite a bit of attention. If

Re: Release process rolling new releases

2014-09-23 Thread Thomas Schwinge
Hi! On Tue, 23 Sep 2014 16:19:02 +0200, Justus Winter 4win...@informatik.uni-hamburg.de wrote: I understand you took care of the release process last time. Is this process documented somewhere? I think that we should make another round of releases. In fact, we should make one or two

Re: Release process rolling new releases

2014-09-23 Thread Richard Braun
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 05:09:30PM +0200, Thomas Schwinge wrote: For me, the question rather is, what constitutes the releases that we publish? Some new, exciting features (including considerable bug fixing, code re-writes, re-factoring, and so on), on the one hand, or regular time-based

Re: Release process rolling new releases

2014-09-23 Thread Justus Winter
Quoting Richard Braun (2014-09-23 17:23:49) On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 05:09:30PM +0200, Thomas Schwinge wrote: For me, the question rather is, what constitutes the releases that we publish? Some new, exciting features (including considerable bug fixing, code re-writes, re-factoring, and so

Re: Release process rolling new releases

2014-09-23 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Justus Winter 4win...@informatik.uni-hamburg.de skribis: I understand you took care of the release process last time. Is this process documented somewhere? I think that we should make another round of releases. In fact, we should make one or two releases each year. At the very least it

Re: Release process rolling new releases

2014-09-23 Thread Omar Radwan
I would think that an annual release, or a release every 2 years, coupled with a snapshot every 2 month, would be the best for most people. On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 1:15 PM, Ludovic Courtès l...@gnu.org wrote: Justus Winter 4win...@informatik.uni-hamburg.de skribis: I understand you took care