I completely agree
One of the main problems I have had is that when working for web
agencies they often were not able to 'educate' their clients as they
were to afraid they would not work with them if they were opposing
them too strongly and would rather accept unreasonable demands or dead
lines
thanks for all the replies
and I tried to explain that stable means 'considered stable' and that
RC2 was working perfectly for we had to do. I think they would have
preferred me to craft custom code which would have been far less
secure and stable than using cakephp but that would not have been
The customer is not always right. Lets say you are a roofer and the
customer tells you to use that you cannot use an air-nailer as they
are not as proven and effective as a hand hammer. Would you simply
accept that they 'are right' and do the job? There are a time when
the customer is not
thanks for the replies
I think I'll just charge more (and even more if they suddendly decide
1.1 is not good enough when 1.2 is tagged stable)
I'm just very angry at these peope and wanted to force 1.2 on them
since it makes my life so much simpler :)
Thanks again and thanks for this great
In my opinion, you probably just need to tell him what stable means
for something like a framework. People hear unstable, think of
Windows, and think of unexpected crashes. Tell him that using RC2
does not in anyway affect whether or not the site will crash, I bet
that is what he is thinking.
Hello Thomas,
I might sound a little bit vexing saying this:
Your customer is right. I am sorry.
Well... 1.2 is yet a Release Candidate, although a very stable and
robust release candidate, but yet release candidate.
The main reason that it is kept on this name is because there might
be,
I agree, the customer is always right, but you can always refuse to do
the job and explain exactly why. if you are that a good programmer
you will always have work to do, so why bother. I bet you the new
cake will be released very soon. Not so long ago it was only about
40% complete now it is
Hello there,
I have a client that won't let me use 1.2 because 1.1.19 is tagged as
stable whereas 1.2 is RC2...
I tried and tried to explain to him the many reasons why it would be
better and more efficient and more secure etc... to use 1.2 but to no
avail since all he can see is the 'stable'
I have different problem as my customer want to wait for 1.3
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 23:45:07 -0700
Subject: Cake 1.1.19 stable
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Hello there,
I have a client that won't let me use 1.2 because 1.1.19 is tagged as
stable whereas 1.2
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Hello there,
I have a client that won't let me use 1.2 because 1.1.19 is tagged as
stable whereas 1.2 is RC2...
I tried and tried to explain to him the many reasons why it would be
better and more efficient and more secure
IMO the RC2 is kind of a misnomer as this is the most stable release
candidate of any software i've ever worked with.
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I know all this, believe me
My client decides because they are corporate and have people who said
they could not have 'not stable' software used for their sites, which
is I agree is the position of people who dont really know what
software is about, they dont even have the skills to judge
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I know all this, believe me
My client decides because they are corporate and have people who said
they could not have 'not stable' software used for their sites, which
is I agree is the position of people who dont really know
No worries, build stuff in 1.1...
When 1.2 becomes stable charge them lost of $$$ to convert to 1.2
Put this in a contract, since once 1.2 is stable 1.1 is obsolete and
will require immediate upgrade ;)
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I know all this, believe me
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