Re: [Callers] When did pre-dance beginners' workshops start in YOUR area?

2011-09-02 Thread Linda Leslie
I started dancing in the early 1980's in Chicago, at the Old Town School of Folk Music. The folks there called the dances "Barn Dances", and I believe they still do (I moved to New England in 1988). There were no introductory sessions; I do remember that Al Olson was my first partner (for t

Re: [Callers] When did pre-dance beginners' workshops start in YOUR area?

2011-09-02 Thread mavis mcgaugh
my 2 cents worth: Found contra dancing in 1992 at Glen Echo in Md. They did a newcomer's session there --- moved to No. California in 1999 - they did them out here at all the dances. whenever I am doing a newomer's workshop before a dance - I always tell those folks present - Contra dan

Re: [Callers] Implied Messages in First-Timer's Orientation

2011-09-02 Thread Hanny Budnick
Hi Bob, I'm impressed with your perceptiveness. True, it's the second-time-comers who take the best advantage of the pre-dance stuff! Hanny

Re: [Callers] Origin of Beginners' workshops

2011-09-02 Thread ledas
Jon I can tell you how they originated here in Los Angeles. When I started contradancing in the '80s there was no beginner "lesson". The callers taught the figures and you learned as you went. At the time, most of the dances were pretty simple. I remember the first dance we had with a Hey for 4

Re: [Callers] Implied Messages in First-Timer's Orientation

2011-09-02 Thread Bob Isaacs
Hi All: While I am thankful for all the useful comments here, there is one thought missing from this discussion. You've all seen them; new dancers who miss the new dancer session and arrive after the dance has started. Most likely for their first contra they get paired up with some experie

[Callers] When did pre-dance beginners' workshops start in YOUR area?

2011-09-02 Thread Hanny Budnick
I have encountered these pre-dance introductions only outside of New England. When I reintroduced contra dancing in Philadelphia in the early seventies, we did only traditional dances which are - in my opinion - very beginner-friendly anyway and didn't need extra introductions, not even the trip

[Callers] Origin of Beginners' workshops

2011-09-02 Thread Jon Southard
David raises an interesting question about when and how beginners' workshops/orientation came to be part of the evening. I have been dancing in Southern California for a little more than 20 years, and there have been beginners' workshops here for at least that long. I am wondering if one facto

Re: [Callers] Re Swinging

2011-09-02 Thread Marianne Tatom Letts
I've found that the most comfortable position for my partner and me is for us both to have our hand on the other's shoulder blade (that is to say, on the back rather than the top of the shoulder). Push gently there and you can get around as fast as you like without either person getting injured. I

Re: [Callers] Implied Messages in First-Timer's Orientation

2011-09-02 Thread David Millstone
The more I read the comments in this discussion, the more I start humming lyrics to an old Bob Dylan song: "You're right from your side and I'm right from mine." Some folks are clearly on the side of not having newcomers' workshops at all. Others think they're fine but should focus on various

[Callers] Assistance needed with replying to thread topics...

2011-09-02 Thread Sargon de Jesus
I know this has been discussed a couple times before, but I can't find the discussion. How can someone with the callers digest reply to a chain? Must it always appear as a new thread? Any suggestions or step-by-step would be great! Thanks! -Sargon

Re: [Callers] Implied Messages in First-Timer's Orientation

2011-09-02 Thread Sargon de Jesus
Hmm...lots of comments about teaching. I must say that I don't agree with all of them :-) First, about implied comments in a workshop. While I agree that nonverbal speech is important, we shouldn't promote it over the content of what is said. If we really go down that path, we might as well consid

Re: [Callers] Re Swinging

2011-09-02 Thread Susan Moffett
I often dance the male role and after a few dances, my arms and shoulders are tired! So I understand about the extra work whoever is dancing that role takes on. When teaching the swing, its good to let the dancers know that the best swings are ones where both partners give weight and take r

Re: [Callers] Implied Messages in First-Timer's Orientation (Was: Head Mikes and Mike Heads)

2011-09-02 Thread Dale Wilson
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 6:36 PM, Michael Barraclough wrote: > > This all suggests to me that the most important elements to concentrate > on are psychological and that overloading with facts will be > counter-productive (unless it is how to find the restrooms, water > fountains, when the break is,

Re: [Callers] Re Swinging

2011-09-02 Thread Jeff Kaufman
barb kirchner wrote: > > one of the biggest complaints i have had over the years is from guys > with painful shoulders and backs from swinging women who make the > gents do all the work. i believe this is a direct result of ladies > who put their hands on the front of the gents' arm and make him

Re: [Callers] Re Swinging

2011-09-02 Thread Aylwen Gardiner-Garden
As a dancer, I prefer to put my left hand over my partner's shoulder. Definitely it helps us to share weight. It also depends on what dance style it is that you are swinging in and what the next move is after swinging - flowing into the next move is desirable. Also, I have a better chance at mainta

Re: [Callers] Re Swinging

2011-09-02 Thread barb kirchner
i was the one who made a number of those statements, and i'll defend them now. i focus a LOT on my teaching, especially beginners, and have very actively pursued comments from new and old dancers and people attending my classes. one of the biggest complaints i have had over the years is from

[Callers] Re Swinging

2011-09-02 Thread John Sweeney
What a great discussion - some wonderful ideas and quotes to use. But I am afraid that I don't agree with everything that has been said, and I see some people have also already sent in some dissenting comments to some of the statements that have been made. Please forgive me if I have misunderstoo