Re: [Callers] Dances with three or more allemandes

2014-02-18 Thread Don Veino
Look here, I posted this link later: http://veino.com/allemande.html On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 6:20 PM, Richard Dempsey wrote: > Is the picture still on Google Drive? I can't see it. :-(

Re: [Callers] Height differential

2014-02-18 Thread Hgrastorf
For me (a short person -- but only on the outside), a problem I occasionally have with some tall dancers is the failure to take relative arm length differential into consideration during the swing. If his left arm is nearly straight, my right is hyperextended and I'm off balance. April

Re: [Callers] Height diffferential

2014-02-18 Thread Les Addison
I recently danced with a neighbor who always had his hand perfectly on my scapula. It was like there was a magnet between his hand and my back, and i loved it. When I had a chance, between dances, I let him know how much I appreciated it, and asked him what his trick is, hoping that I could

Re: [Callers] Height diffferential

2014-02-18 Thread Dale Wilson
An interesting topic. We have women at both ends of the height spectrum. I don't (as far as I know) have trouble with the short ones, but it took me a while to adapt to dancing with women who were considerably taller than I am. Finally I just asked some of them, "Where should I put my hand to

Re: [Callers] Dances with three or more allemandes

2014-02-18 Thread Richard Dempsey
Hi Don, Is the picture still on Google Drive? I can't see it. :-( I'm quite interested in seeing it. Some years ago, Lisa Greenleaf taught a healthy allemande hold, and I'm curious to know if yours is the same or different. I find there is a surprising level of disagreement on the topic.

Re: [Callers] Dances with three or more allemandes

2014-02-18 Thread Dale Wilson
Yes, the pictures explain it. Note that there is nothing between the thumb and the side of your hand. You can't clamp the thumb down against anything but your own hand. And here is one of my favorite dances with lots of allemandes. *The Big Bicep* by Jim Hemphill Becket A1 Circle

Re: [Callers] Subject: Height diffferential

2014-02-18 Thread Lindsay Morris
There are certainly exceptions. But I think in general, children who are new to contra find it easier to take a two-handed swing, and find it more enjoyable to do. > On Feb 18, 2014, at 3:23 PM, Andrea Nettleton > wrote: > > My daughter gives great weight and

Re: [Callers] Subject: Height diffferential

2014-02-18 Thread Andrea Nettleton
My daughter gives great weight and definitely prefers a regular swing. She feels out of control and in danger in a two hand swing. It flings her closer to the other dancers who are much bigger and heavier than she is, even now at age eleven, and if it gets too fast, threatens to sweep her off

Re: [Callers] Subject: Height diffferential

2014-02-18 Thread George Mercer
I like the two-hand turn for children, though some really look forward to the "regular" contra swing. . On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 1:46 PM, Lindsay Morris wrote: > With small children, a two-hand turn in place of a swing is usually a good > idea. And I've sometimes used a

Re: [Callers] Subject: Height diffferential

2014-02-18 Thread Lindsay Morris
With small children, a two-hand turn in place of a swing is usually a good idea. And I've sometimes used a two-hand turn to show a grown-up partner what a buzz-step swing ought to feel like. Lindsay Morris CEO, TSMworks Tel. 1-859-539-9900 lind...@tsmworks.com On Tue, Feb

Re: [Callers] Subject: Height diffferential

2014-02-18 Thread John W Gintell
I've noticed some tall dancers bend their knees and stoop a bit to make them closer to the height of the person they are swinging with. A very nice gesture. > Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 09:23:35 -0500 > From: George Mercer > To: "Caller's discussion list"

Re: [Callers] Hand Manners (was: Dances with three or more allemandes)

2014-02-18 Thread Lindsay Morris
Great point. Hard to naysay vigor and enthusiasm in dancing, yet I get hurt that way too sometimes. Guess all a caller can do is encourage respect and attention. Lindsay Morris CEO, TSMworks Tel. 1-859-539-9900 lind...@tsmworks.com On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 10:46 AM, Linda

Re: [Callers] Hand Manners (was: Dances with three or more allemandes)

2014-02-18 Thread Linda Leslie
Dear George, I am so glad that you brought up this issue. I have noticed it, too, and also see that the whacking has become a prelude to a balance (yikes!) for some dancers. It will be interesting to hear from callers how we might approach this challenge. For me, although I have no

Re: [Callers] Hand Manners (was: Dances with three or more allemandes)

2014-02-18 Thread Maia McCormick
George, that's an interesting point, and I'm glad you mentioned it, because it's definitely one that hadn't really entered my consciousness. I've definitely experienced a forceful allemande approach as, while not *the* norm, definitely a viable means of entering an allemande. The force level I'm

[Callers] Height diffferential

2014-02-18 Thread George Mercer
A number of years ago I danced a number of times with a woman who was much shorter than me. I am about 5'6" or so on a good day. She was probably 4'8" give or take an inch. When we'd go into a swing, as my arm went around her to her back, she'd lock her left arm down so that I could hardly get

Re: [Callers] Hand Manners (was: Dances with three or more allemandes)

2014-02-18 Thread George Mercer
I guess this is tangential to the hands/allemande discussion, but it has been a source of personal pain for me for some time. Over the past decade or so more and more people, many of them pretty good long-time dancers (both men and women), have approached me for an allemande with a percussive

Re: [Callers] Hand Manners (was: Dances with three or more allemandes)

2014-02-18 Thread Lindsay Morris
Don's photo illustrates the "OSHA-approved" grip I mentioned. It's not the intuitive thing to do, so callers would do well (IMHO) to promote it. Jonathan, the "thumbs-up" position is different, and puts one at risk of injury or just awkwardness (like, when a new dancer grabs my thumb with their