Re: Markaby license issue

2011-12-30 Thread Dave Everitt
I don't think there are any 'shoulds', but people writing code (including markup) which other people might one day need to understand would be wise to make it comprehensible, and probably therefore in a recognisable, readable syntax... which I think is the essence of Markaby and its legacy

Re: Markaby license issue

2011-12-28 Thread Anthony Durity
I think people should write HTML in HTML, CSS in CSS, Javascript in Javascript, and Ruby in Ruby. I don't get the fascination with DSLs for existing domains. DSLs for your own stuff is okay, where you need something that is more complex than a bunch of functions and less complex than a full blown

Re: Markaby license issue

2011-12-28 Thread Isak Andersson
I think people who want to write HTML in HTML should write HTML in HTML. I think people who don't want to write HTML in HTML should write it in something they prefer. Just my humble opinion. --Isak Andersson Den 2011-12-29 02:14:18 skrev Anthony Durity gravi...@jollyrotten.org: I think

Re: Markaby license issue

2011-12-28 Thread carmen
I think people who don't want to write HTML in HTML should write it in something they prefer. i like to write HTML in Ruby, {attr: :val} for elements, [] for lists of elements, and for..strings def H _ case _ when Hash then ''+(_[:_]||:div).to_s+(_.keys-[:_,:c]).map{|a| '

Re: Markaby license issue

2011-12-19 Thread Magnus Holm
On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 19:10, Dave Everitt dever...@innotts.co.uk wrote: Magnus: this commit implements a tiny and fast Markaby-alternative (called Mab) ... it's completely inline in camping/mab.rb, but it should be fairy easy to create another Rubygem where we could implement for advanced

Re: Markaby license issue

2011-12-19 Thread Jenna Fox
XHTML5 is a fancy name for the way the HTML5 spec grudgingly allows the use of XML-like syntax, allowing for XML Builders like current markaby to be technically allowable as valid HTML. It's not 'real' in that they don't provide validators for it and browsers aren't supposed to parse it as XML

Re: Markaby license issue

2011-12-19 Thread Steve Klabnik
Yep! Granted, if you serve it with an XML MIME type, it must be able to be parsed with an XML parser, so none of that p bthis iis/b insane/i stuff! But still... I actually like XML. There are some of us in Ruby... ___ Camping-list mailing list

Re: Markaby license issue

2011-12-19 Thread Jenna Fox
I tried to use that crazy stuff recently and it just doesn't work, in webkit at least. — Jenna On 20/12/2011, at 4:34 PM, Steve Klabnik st...@steveklabnik.com wrote: Yep! Granted, if you serve it with an XML MIME type, it must be able to be parsed with an XML parser, so none of that p

Re: Markaby license issue

2011-12-18 Thread Magnus Holm
On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 02:47, Steve Klabnik st...@steveklabnik.com wrote: A wild project appears: http://krainboltgreene.github.com/dapper-dan/ Some problems: * It doesn't support CSS proxy (div.wrapper! { … ] == div(:id = 'wrapper') { … }) * It doesn't escape stuff * It doesn't specify its

Re: Markaby license issue

2011-12-18 Thread Jenna Fox
Aw.. That is rather disappointing. But still, I see this problem as a chance to be reborn anew. Fresh and clean of the bad lessons learnt by Markaby. We did learn some lessons, didn't we? — Jenna Fox On Sunday, 18 December 2011 at 7:27 PM, Magnus Holm wrote: On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at

Re: Markaby license issue

2011-12-18 Thread Isak Andersson
Not really sure to be honest. It looks very nice and is basically markaby. But I think we should either create our own, or fork it so we could have our own cool stuff, like the AJAX things someone mentioned. Also, it would be cool if you could also write JS in ruby easily with camping out of

Re: Markaby license issue

2011-12-18 Thread Bartosz Dziewoński
You can't really write Javascript in Ruby due to the way it (and its libraries like jQuery) handle functions. Sure, it could be done, but the code would be ugly. 2011/12/18, Isak Andersson icepa...@lavabit.com: Not really sure to be honest. It looks very nice and is basically markaby. But I

Re: Markaby license issue

2011-12-18 Thread Christian Neukirchen
Jenna Fox a...@creativepony.com writes: the same way linux apps interface with an X11 server today. Hey, we've been there, 15 years ago: http://ftp.x.org/pub/X11R6.8.2/doc/libxrx.1.html -- Christian Neukirchen chneukirc...@gmail.com http://chneukirchen.org

Re: Markaby license issue

2011-12-18 Thread Philippe Monnet
Rumble seems like a good start. So what else would need to be done? On 12/18/2011 1:27 AM, Magnus Holm wrote: On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 02:47, Steve Klabnikst...@steveklabnik.com wrote: A wild project appears: http://krainboltgreene.github.com/dapper-dan/ Some problems: * It doesn't support

Markaby license issue

2011-12-17 Thread Magnus Holm
Okay, we might have a slight problem: It doesn't seem that Markaby ever had a specific license. This means that it's currently Copyright © _why and we might not have the right to re-distribute (or contribute to) it. So first of all: if you've ever seen a LICENSE/COPYING-file (or something else

Re: Markaby license issue

2011-12-17 Thread Jenna Fox
Nice! Lets just all use this thing! What say you, everyone? — Jenna Fox On Sunday, 18 December 2011 at 12:47 PM, Steve Klabnik wrote: A wild project appears: http://krainboltgreene.github.com/dapper-dan/ ___ Camping-list mailing list