Re: [Catalyst] How to help with the wiki migration?

2008-01-23 Thread Marcus Ramberg
On Jan 23, 2008 8:47 AM, Kieren Diment [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 23 Jan 2008, at 18:28, Ashley wrote: On Jan 22, 2008, at 10:47 PM, Kieren Diment wrote: 2. How do I get a login for the new wiki at http://catwiki.toeat.com I had no trouble registering on ther right now. Is that

Re: [Catalyst] How to help with the wiki migration?

2008-01-23 Thread Marcus Ramberg
On Jan 23, 2008 8:47 AM, Kieren Diment [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 23 Jan 2008, at 18:28, Ashley wrote: On Jan 22, 2008, at 10:47 PM, Kieren Diment wrote: 2. How do I get a login for the new wiki at http://catwiki.toeat.com I had no trouble registering on ther right now. Is that

RE: [Catalyst] How to help with the wiki migration?

2008-01-23 Thread Peter Edwards
Marcus Ramberg wrote: registration on the wiki is open at http://catwiki.toeat.com/.register This page gives a Javascript error under IE7: 'null' is null or not an object Caused by line $('1').focus(); Try $('_login').focus() or document.getElementById('_login').focus(); Or more fanatically

Re: [Catalyst] warning

2008-01-23 Thread Octavian Rasnita
From: Matt S Trout [EMAIL PROTECTED] Repeatedly overwriting a global is dangerous and indicates you've done something silly. This is not a solution, it's a nasty hack which I strongly recommend against, and is only required because there's something badly wrong with your app or with its

Re: [Catalyst] Testing docs / Wiki migration / Mojo question

2008-01-23 Thread Mike Whitaker
On 23 Jan 2008, at 12:37, Peter Edwards wrote: 1) I found I had to escape CamelCase words within code blocks, is this as intended? E.g. I'm assured this (and the other one) are being fixed, as I've bitched about it too :) -- Mike Whitaker| Yahoo! UK Ltd - internal CMS team [EMAIL

Re: [Catalyst] warning

2008-01-23 Thread Carl Johnstone
My site is accessed with 2 different domain names, and the app must send a cookie that specify a domain, because otherwise Firefox doesn't send the cookie back to the server. I've given you an answer to that problem once. Redirect domain2.com to domain1.com and only serve your site through

[Catalyst] index and default actions (was: Why no extra attributes on Private actions?)

2008-01-23 Thread Carl Johnstone
I foresee index and default going the fuck away for 5.80 unless you're in compat mode. I'm curious about these two. I've made plenty of use of index, and off the top of my head can't see another way of doing the home page of site. As far as default, I'd currently use that to do my 404

Re: [Catalyst] Debugging Catalyst with Eclipse

2008-01-23 Thread Martin Ellison
Try going through the mailing list archives and extracting useful information. I got some useful advice on several sticking points, and I am sure others did too. Take that out and organise it. On 23/01/2008, Matt S Trout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jan 22, 2008 at 09:13:51AM -0600, Nathan

Re: [Catalyst] warning

2008-01-23 Thread Martin Ellison
On 23/01/2008, Carl Johnstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't think of any reason why you should be serving the same site on different domains. Note (before somebody pulls me up again) that different white-labelled sites based on the same app is a different situation. You may want to

[Catalyst] Authentication for web services (slightly off topic)

2008-01-23 Thread Ian Docherty
This might seem like a stupid question, and one that probably has a simple solution. If I am serving XML over HTML (a simple web service), how do I authenticate the client? I would not expect cookies to be a sensible solution. I could use Apache Basic Authentication, but I would prefer to

Re: [Catalyst] Authentication for web services (slightly off topic)

2008-01-23 Thread Andrew Payne
On Jan 23, 2008 2:30 PM, Ian Docherty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This might seem like a stupid question, and one that probably has a I could use Apache Basic Authentication, but I would prefer to hold usernames passwords in a database rather than a htpasswd file. Just do my ($username,

Re: [Catalyst] warning

2008-01-23 Thread Octavian Rasnita
From: Carl Johnstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] My site is accessed with 2 different domain names, and the app must send a cookie that specify a domain, because otherwise Firefox doesn't send the cookie back to the server. I've given you an answer to that problem once. Redirect domain2.com to

Re: [Catalyst] Authentication for web services (slightly off topic)

2008-01-23 Thread Ian Docherty
Andrew Payne wrote: On Jan 23, 2008 2:30 PM, Ian Docherty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This might seem like a stupid question, and one that probably has a I could use Apache Basic Authentication, but I would prefer to hold usernames passwords in a database rather than a htpasswd file.

Re: [Catalyst] Authentication for web services (slightly off topic)

2008-01-23 Thread Christopher H. Laco
Andrew Payne wrote: On Jan 23, 2008 2:30 PM, Ian Docherty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This might seem like a stupid question, and one that probably has a I could use Apache Basic Authentication, but I would prefer to hold usernames passwords in a database rather than a htpasswd file. Just do

Re: [Catalyst] Authentication for web services (slightly off topic)

2008-01-23 Thread Ian Docherty
Andrew Payne wrote: On Jan 23, 2008 2:30 PM, Ian Docherty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This might seem like a stupid question, and one that probably has a I could use Apache Basic Authentication, but I would prefer to hold usernames passwords in a database rather than a htpasswd file.

Re: [Catalyst] How to help with the wiki migration?

2008-01-23 Thread J. Shirley
On Jan 22, 2008 10:47 PM, Kieren Diment [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: argh my finger slipped and sent it :( Some naive questions: 1. What is the goal of the wiki/site migration. Largely, the over-arching goal is to get a better web presence for the Catalyst project. For a web framework, our

Re: [OT] network traffic and DNS servers (was: Re: [Catalyst] warning)

2008-01-23 Thread Octavian Rasnita
From: Kiki [EMAIL PROTECTED] Octavian Rasnita wrote: From: Carl Johnstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] My site is accessed with 2 different domain names, and the app must send a cookie that specify a domain, because otherwise Firefox doesn't send the cookie back to the server. I've given you an

Re: white-labelling [Catalyst] (Was: warning)

2008-01-23 Thread Carl Johnstone
You may want to deliver somewhat different content depending on which URL they use; is that what you mean by 'white-labelled'? By white labelling I mean the same functionality and data wrapped up in different branding like:

Re: [Catalyst] Debugging Catalyst with Eclipse

2008-01-23 Thread Nathan Waddell
I'm signing up for the wiki as I write this. If that is the direction the documentation effort is going, I'm going to concentrate on it. My employer allows me to dedicate some of my time each week to 'creative projects unrelated to our core business' and is a big consumer of Open Source and Free

Re: [Catalyst] Authentication for web services (slightly off topic)

2008-01-23 Thread Andrew Payne
On Jan 23, 2008 4:28 PM, Matt Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WWW::Mechanize isa LWP::UserAgent. Ditto T::W::M::C, AFAIK. Yes, but how does that help when we're using get_ok(...) ? I accidently chopped too many lines from the previous snippet. print $ua-request($req)-as_string; Gives the

Re: [Catalyst] Authentication for web services (slightly off topic)

2008-01-23 Thread Christopher H. Laco
Andrew Payne wrote: On Jan 23, 2008 4:28 PM, Matt Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WWW::Mechanize isa LWP::UserAgent. Ditto T::W::M::C, AFAIK. Yes, but how does that help when we're using get_ok(...) ? I accidently chopped too many lines from the previous snippet. print

Re: [Catalyst] warning

2008-01-23 Thread Carl Johnstone
Our sysadmin told me that this way is better because we won't make traffic (and slow down) on the public network interface. Marginal, you'd need to be doing *a lot* of data transfer. I think our data transfer at our ISP maxes out at around 12Mbps on an average lunch time - well below the

Re: [Catalyst] warning

2008-01-23 Thread Wade . Stuart
Carl Johnstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 01/23/2008 11:22:50 AM: Our sysadmin told me that this way is better because we won't make traffic (and slow down) on the public network interface. Marginal, you'd need to be doing *a lot* of data transfer. I think our data transfer at our ISP

Re: [Catalyst] Debugging Catalyst with Eclipse

2008-01-23 Thread Nathan Waddell
I'll be sure to pass the message on to my boss. Yeah, there's few good reasons to maintain a private fork... and that line of reasoning is definitely not one of them. On Jan 23, 2008 11:49 AM, Daniel Hulme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's great. Be sure to thank your employer on my behalf (and

[Catalyst] Need input for Future branch of MojoMojo wiki docs

2008-01-23 Thread Nathan Waddell
I'm currently working on the Future branch of the MojoMojo wiki. I need some input for the following: Road Map To Do Wish List There isn't much to speak of on the original Trac pages, and I think these are pretty important pages to keep updated and relevant. Can anyone point me to any docs that

[Catalyst] MojoMojo wiki capabilities

2008-01-23 Thread Nathan Waddell
I'd like a little more info on the capabilities of the MojoMojo. Is there a more comprehensive doc than the 'syntax' page? Ideally, I'd like to be able to put a list on my profile of all of the pages of which I am the author or at least the last person to edit it. Can I use some inline Perl

Re: [Catalyst] warning

2008-01-23 Thread Octavian Rasnita
From: Carl Johnstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] Our sysadmin told me that this way is better because we won't make traffic (and slow down) on the public network interface. Marginal, you'd need to be doing *a lot* of data transfer. I think our data transfer at our ISP maxes out at around 12Mbps on an

Re: [Catalyst] warning

2008-01-23 Thread Octavian Rasnita
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Try setting the cookie to a more reasonable second count (1 day) and see if that resolves your issue. All of the browsers handle extended cookies a bit differently and while one setting may work on IE, the smae may cause a nocookie on firefox. I really believe

Re: [Catalyst] How to help with the wiki migration?

2008-01-23 Thread Nathan Waddell
Looks good. However, I have a few quick questions: What is the difference between a How To and a Tutorial? What is the /1 and /2 under Tutorial supposed to represent? Is the reference link supposed to work? Please understand that I'm not trying to be pedantic. I'm trying to get a better

Re: [Catalyst] warning

2008-01-23 Thread Wade . Stuart
Octavian Rasnita [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 01/23/2008 12:23:48 PM: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Try setting the cookie to a more reasonable second count (1 day) and see if that resolves your issue. All of the browsers handle extended cookies a bit differently and while one setting may

Re: [Catalyst] How to help with the wiki migration?

2008-01-23 Thread J. Shirley
On Jan 23, 2008 10:51 AM, Nathan Waddell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looks good. However, I have a few quick questions: What is the difference between a How To and a Tutorial? A how to is a specific instructive piece of text. Examples of this would be, How to use a controller base class. A

Re: [Catalyst] How to help with the wiki migration?

2008-01-23 Thread Nathan Waddell
Will do. Thanks for the encouragement. I checked out the cpan docs for MojoMojo, and it points to the Textiles site for docs on how to use Textile. That site is being retooled and has little in the way of documentation. So I dug around and found this: http://hobix.com/textile/ It goes over how

Re: [Catalyst] How to help with the wiki migration?

2008-01-23 Thread Nathan Waddell
J.Shirley wrote: Right now we only have one tutorial. The idea is Tutorial/1 is page 1 of the tutorial. Feel free to suggest other changes, we may want to have a named level in there, like Tutorial/Book/1, etc. I'd definitely say we need Tutorial/NameofTutorial. Why do we need page 1, page 2,

Re: [Catalyst] How to help with the wiki migration?

2008-01-23 Thread Nathan Waddell
Ah, ok. I was looking at Mojo's docs on CPAN which reference Textile. I'll check it out. Well, we're using Markdown, actually (Text::MultiMarkdown to be specific) -- so the Textile docs probably won't help too much ;) Maintainer of Text::MultiMarkdown is wooing us with features, so it's an

Re: [Catalyst] How to help with the wiki migration?

2008-01-23 Thread Nathan Waddell
Hmm looks like centering doesn't work. I have to use ye olde (and deprecated) center tag. Additionally, when combining features, the innermost tends to break. e.g: * ##Here is a bulleted H2 heading that doesn't work. The alternative to this is broken as well: e.g: * Here is another broken

Re: [Catalyst] How to help with the wiki migration?

2008-01-23 Thread J. Shirley
On Jan 23, 2008 2:56 PM, Nathan Waddell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm looks like centering doesn't work. I have to use ye olde (and deprecated) center tag. Additionally, when combining features, the innermost tends to break. e.g: * ##Here is a bulleted H2 heading that doesn't work. The

[Catalyst] Road Map doc complete

2008-01-23 Thread Nathan Waddell
I've completed the Road Map, found at: http://catwiki.toeat.com/fromtrac/future/roadmap.highlight. Please take a look at it and point out any glaring typos/errors, etc. Interestingly, I was able to make only a few changes to the changelog for the current version of Catalyst in order to create

Re: [Catalyst] How to help with the wiki migration?

2008-01-23 Thread J. Shirley
On Jan 23, 2008 3:19 PM, J. Shirley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 23, 2008 2:56 PM, Nathan Waddell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm looks like centering doesn't work. I have to use ye olde (and deprecated) center tag. Additionally, when combining features, the innermost tends to break.

Re: [Catalyst] index and default actions (was: Why no extra attributes on Private actions?)

2008-01-23 Thread Matt S Trout
On Wed, Jan 23, 2008 at 01:59:11PM -, Carl Johnstone wrote: I foresee index and default going the fuck away for 5.80 unless you're in compat mode. I'm curious about these two. I've made plenty of use of index, and off the top of my head can't see another way of doing the home page of

Re: [Catalyst] Road Map doc complete

2008-01-23 Thread Matt S Trout
On Wed, Jan 23, 2008 at 05:22:38PM -0600, Nathan Waddell wrote: I've completed the Road Map, found at: http://catwiki.toeat.com/fromtrac/future/roadmap.highlight. Please take a look at it and point out any glaring typos/errors, etc. The introduction and milestone info is all hopelessly out

Re: [Catalyst] Road Map doc complete

2008-01-23 Thread J. Shirley
On Jan 23, 2008 6:48 PM, Matt S Trout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jan 23, 2008 at 05:22:38PM -0600, Nathan Waddell wrote: I've completed the Road Map, found at: http://catwiki.toeat.com/fromtrac/future/roadmap.highlight. Please take a look at it and point out any glaring

Re: white-labelling [Catalyst] (Was: warning)

2008-01-23 Thread Martin Ellison
Interesting term, 'white labelling'; where do you get it from. A client wants something similar so I am interested in the issue. The sites will have some differences such as CSS but access the same application. On 24/01/2008, Carl Johnstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You may want to deliver

Re: [Catalyst] warning

2008-01-23 Thread Carl Franks
On 24/01/2008, Octavian Rasnita [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope I will be able to test why Firefox isn't working. Our client told that it used to work last year and now it is not working. The only change I've made was to remove the domain specification from the cookie, for making it work with