[ccp4bb] Help with pseudosymmetry problem

2008-04-23 Thread Derek Logan
Hi everyone, Can anyone help me with interpretation of a self rotation function and native Patterson from a dataset with pseudosymmetry? I've always been a bit poor on spherical polars. The space group is P21 with beta = 92.2°. The kappa=180° section of the SRF, calculated using Molrep, is

Re: [ccp4bb] Help with pseudosymmetry problem

2008-04-23 Thread Claudine MAYER
Hi Derek, The assymertic unit of the self rotation function is only one hemisphere, for example the north hemisphere. So, if you look on the kappa = 180 °, horizontally in the equator you have the crystallographic axis and 2 perpendicular 2-fold axis on to the other, the one in the near

Re: [ccp4bb] Help with pseudosymmetry problem

2008-04-23 Thread Eleanor Dodson
1) It is a bit hard to find out how MOLREP defines its orthogonal axes - many programs use X0 || a, Yo || b* and in P21 hence Zortho is || to c* If that is what Molrep does then your 2 fold is in the a c* plane, 21 degrees or 111 degrees from c*. The 2 peaks you see are symmetry equivalents.

Re: [ccp4bb] Help with pseudosymmetry problem

2008-04-23 Thread Alexei Vagin
Peak (21.44, 0, 180) has symmetry-related peak (111.44 0 180). These two peaks are identical because NCS peak (21.44, 0, 180) is pependicular to CS peak (90 90 180) Two perpendicular 2-fold peaks (NCS and CS) generate additional 2-fold axis (111.44 0 180). It's called Klug peak. Regards Alexei

Re: [ccp4bb] Help with pseudosymmetry problem

2008-04-23 Thread Ian Tickle
Hi Derek The symmetry of the self-RF is explained in detail in the documentation for POLARRFN, in fact I would advise you to use this because you can then plot monoclinic space groups with the unique b axis along the orthogonal Z axis (NCODE = 3) and then the symmetry is *much* easier to

Re: [ccp4bb] Help with pseudosymmetry problem

2008-04-23 Thread Alexei Vagin
correction: Peak (21.44, 0, 180) has symmetry-related peak (158.56 180 180). . On 23 Apr 2008, at 13:39, Derek Logan wrote: Hi everyone, Can anyone help me with interpretation of a self rotation function and native Patterson from a dataset with pseudosymmetry? I've always been a

Re: [ccp4bb] density_modify.inp is not running in cns1.2 but runs in cns1.1

2008-04-23 Thread Sean Johnson
Raja, I don't have an answer for you, but I have been experiencing the same problem. My guess is that a bug was introduced into version 1.2. My workaround is to use DM. I haven't had problems with any of the other cns scripts in version 1.2. Sean Raja Dey wrote: Hi All, I am

Re: [ccp4bb] density_modify.inp is not running in cns1.2 but runs in cns1.1

2008-04-23 Thread William Scott
Could one or both of you try this with the pre-compiled intel version that comes from the CNS website? If it works on that, it might be something introduced in the compiling process for the osx-optimized version made by David. Thanks. Bill On Apr 23, 2008, at 7:26 AM, Sean Johnson

Re: [ccp4bb] density_modify.inp is not running in cns1.2 but runs in cns1.1

2008-04-23 Thread Axel Brunger
I certainly have not experienced this problem with our pre-compiled Intel version for mac os X that is available when downloading CNS 1.2 from the CNS website. Axel On Apr 23, 2008, at 7:59 AM, William Scott wrote: Could one or both of you try this with the pre-compiled intel version that

[ccp4bb] Michele Cianci is out of office.

2008-04-23 Thread Michele Cianci
I will be out of the office starting Wed 04/23/2008 and will not return until Wed 04/30/2008. I will respond to your message upon my return.

Re: [ccp4bb] Help with pseudosymmetry problem

2008-04-23 Thread Derek Logan
Thanks to everyone who helped with the self RF problem: Eleanor, Ian, Claudine, Pietro Alexei. Eleanor wrote: 1) It is a bit hard to find out how MOLREP defines its orthogonal axes - many programs use X0 || a, Yo || b* and in P21 hence Zortho is || to c* If that is what Molrep does then

[ccp4bb] Crystallization: Focus on Membrane Proteins 2008

2008-04-23 Thread Stojanoff, Vivian
LAST DAYS to APPLY to the IUCr sponsored TRAVEL GRANT Extended Deadline http://www.nsls.bnl.gov/newsroom/events/workshops/2008/crys/ To apply for the IUCr sponsored Travel Grant to participate in the Crystallization: Focus on Membrane Proteins 2008 course you must register for the course and