[ccp4bb] zinc with HEPES

2012-05-11 Thread Rajesh Kumar
Dear All, This question sounds simple but I dont know the answer.I was preparing a 24 well crystal screen. When I try to use 10 mM ZnSO4 with HEPES (pH 7.6) buffer it precipitates. I tried both ZnCl2 and Zn acetate the effect is same. I dont know why this Zn in not compatible with

Re: [ccp4bb] zinc with HEPES

2012-05-11 Thread Jacob Keller
Try adding water first, so that you are not mixing concentrated Zn with concentrated HEPES. Also it depends what else is in your cocktail. JPK On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Rajesh Kumar ccp4...@hotmail.com wrote: Dear All, This question sounds simple but I dont know the answer. I was

Re: [ccp4bb] zinc with HEPES

2012-05-11 Thread David Schuller
On 05/11/12 12:26, Rajesh Kumar wrote: Dear All, This question sounds simple but I dont know the answer. I was preparing a 24 well crystal screen. When I try to use 10 mM ZnSO4 with HEPES (pH 7.6) buffer it precipitates. I tried both ZnCl2 and Zn acetate the effect is same. I dont know why

Re: [ccp4bb] zinc with HEPES

2012-05-11 Thread Rajesh Kumar
many might have used this combination. ThanksRajesh Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 11:29:03 -0500 Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] zinc with HEPES From: j-kell...@fsm.northwestern.edu To: ccp4...@hotmail.com CC: CCP4BB@jiscmail.ac.uk Try adding water first, so that you are not mixing concentrated Zn

Re: [ccp4bb] zinc with HEPES

2012-05-11 Thread Rajesh Kumar
If there is no cure , then fine.pH may not be the answer as it doesn't Happen with TRIS buffer pH 7.6.Thanks to every oneRajesh Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 12:35:45 -0400 From: dj...@cornell.edu Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] zinc with HEPES To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK

Re: [ccp4bb] zinc with HEPES

2012-05-11 Thread Pius Padayatti
pH is the culprit here Like some already mentioned change your pH to 6.4 and use a different buffer like cacodylate or you can use Zinc acetate in water pH still would be 6.4 from your last mail why would you add Zn to your initial hit condition is there any rationale? Padayatti On Fri, May 11,

Re: [ccp4bb] zinc with HEPES

2012-05-11 Thread Katherine Sippel
, then fine. pH may not be the answer as it doesn't Happen with TRIS buffer pH 7.6. Thanks to every one Rajesh -- Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 12:35:45 -0400 From: dj...@cornell.edu Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] zinc with HEPES To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK There is no cure

Re: [ccp4bb] zinc with HEPES

2012-05-11 Thread Rajesh Kumar
increase thickness or change the shape of very very thin needle crystals. Yes, I will try very less, 50uM.Thanks for helping me to understand.Rajesh Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 12:53:53 -0400 Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] zinc with HEPES From: liehy...@gmail.com To: ccp4...@hotmail.com Rajesh, 10mM zinc

Re: [ccp4bb] zinc with HEPES

2012-05-11 Thread Jacob Keller
buffer pH 7.6. Thanks to every one Rajesh -- Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 12:35:45 -0400 From: dj...@cornell.edu Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] zinc with HEPES To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK There is no cure for HEPES

Re: [ccp4bb] zinc with HEPES

2012-05-11 Thread Roger Rowlett
Almost assuredly you are getting zinc hydroxide precipitate. Zn(OH)2 will readily precipitate from solutions of alkaline Zn(II). Your problem is compounded by the fact that HEPES is a non-coordinating buffer, so it does not help solubilize the zinc ion. You might find a weakly coordinating

Re: [ccp4bb] zinc with HEPES/seeding

2012-05-11 Thread Rajesh Kumar
Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 18:09:54 +0100 Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] zinc with HEPES From: patr...@douglas.co.uk To: ccp4...@hotmail.com Rajesh How did you do the MMS? By hand or with a robot, and what screens did you use? and why did you change to HEPES out of interest? Patrick On 11 May 2012 18:05, Rajesh

Re: [ccp4bb] zinc with HEPES/seeding

2012-05-11 Thread Jacob Keller
several drops to just to fish out 1-2 needles. I am ready to try if there any trick left. Thanks for lots and lots of help. Regards, Rajesh -- Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 18:09:54 +0100 Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] zinc with HEPES From: patr...@douglas.co.uk To: ccp4

Re: [ccp4bb] zinc with HEPES/seeding

2012-05-11 Thread Patrick Shaw Stewart
to try if there any trick left. Thanks for lots and lots of help. Regards, Rajesh -- Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 18:09:54 +0100 Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] zinc with HEPES From: patr...@douglas.co.uk To: ccp4...@hotmail.com Rajesh How did you do the MMS? By hand

Re: [ccp4bb] zinc with HEPES

2012-05-11 Thread Edward A. Berry
. Thanks to every one Rajesh Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 12:35:45 -0400 From: dj...@cornell.edu mailto:dj...@cornell.edu Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] zinc with HEPES To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK

Re: [ccp4bb] zinc with HEPES

2012-05-11 Thread Katherine Sippel
not be the answer as it doesn't Happen with TRIS buffer pH 7.6. Thanks to every one Rajesh -- Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 12:35:45 -0400 From: dj...@cornell.edu Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] zinc with HEPES To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK There is no cure for HEPES