Re: [ccp4bb] Weakest protein-protein complex crystallised

2008-07-01 Thread Philippe DUMAS
Petegem [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : Monday, June 30, 2008 9:01 PM À : Philippe DUMAS Cc : CCP4BB@jiscmail.ac.uk Objet : Re: [ccp4bb] Weakest protein-protein complex crystallised Hi, we've had a similar situation: a protein-peptide complex with a Kd in the nM range crystallized in the same

Re: [ccp4bb] Weakest protein-protein complex crystallised

2008-06-30 Thread Patrick Loll
I hope this isn't too much of a foray into philosophy and semantics, but can't you argue that the crystals themselves are weak complexes? And since the energies of crystal contacts are typically very weak, I would further argue that you should be able to crystallize ANY complex with an

Re: [ccp4bb] Weakest protein-protein complex crystallised

2008-06-30 Thread Ed Pozharski
The word weak is, of course, relative. Free energy of crystallization is roughly 1-2 kcal/mole of crystal contacts (I think I carried this number from Sir Blundell's book, but quick look at papers by Peter Vekilov's group seems to confirm it - am I wrong on this?). I think that crystal contacts

Re: [ccp4bb] Weakest protein-protein complex crystallised

2008-06-30 Thread Loris Remy
There are quite a number of structures homodimers and homotetramers in the PDB where the dissociation constant is known to be in the millimolar range. For example the dimerizaion of a humainized antibody VHH domain that mimicks a VH-VL complex (Conrath et al. J. Mol. Biol. (2005) 350, 112–125).

Re: [ccp4bb] Weakest protein-protein complex crystallised

2008-06-30 Thread Filip Van Petegem
Descartes 67084 Strasbourg cedex tel: +33 (0)3 88 41 70 02 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Message d'origine- De : CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] la part de Ed Pozharski Envoyé : Monday, June 30, 2008 4:50 PM À : CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Objet : Re: [ccp4bb] Weakest protein-protein

Re: [ccp4bb] Weakest protein-protein complex crystallised

2008-06-30 Thread Jens T. Kaiser
] Weakest protein-protein complex crystallised The word weak is, of course, relative. Free energy of crystallization is roughly 1-2 kcal/mole of crystal contacts (I think I carried this number from Sir Blundell's book, but quick look at papers by Peter Vekilov's group seems to confirm

Re: [ccp4bb] Weakest protein-protein complex crystallised

2008-06-30 Thread Filip Van Petegem
@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Objet : Re: [ccp4bb] Weakest protein-protein complex crystallised The word weak is, of course, relative. Free energy of crystallization is roughly 1-2 kcal/mole of crystal contacts (I think I carried this number from Sir Blundell's book, but quick look at papers by Peter

Re: [ccp4bb] Weakest protein-protein complex crystallised

2008-06-30 Thread Filip Van Petegem
Hello John, No, they're not. Crystals were obtained at pH8.0, 200mM NaCl; 10% PEG4000. Calorimetric experiments were done at pH7.4, 150mM KCl. We found the interaction to be driven mainly by hydrophobic contacts (mutants of polar/charged residues have no significant effect on the affinity).