Re: [ccp4bb] str solving problem

2013-06-25 Thread Pramod Kumar
Dear Eugene plz find the merging statics over this link https://www.dropbox.com/sh/3155bp0c8axo7tx/0P1RWTTD8z?n=21758536 I have tried different subset of images for indexing, only cell edges are changing very marginal ( < 1 ) but no change in space group. Dear Manfred I have collected my dat

Re: [ccp4bb] str solving problem

2013-06-24 Thread Eugene Valkov
Hi Pramod, Can you post your merging statistics in different space groups, not just log files from scaling? These are summarised nicely by Scala or Aimless. Also, have you tried indexing from different subsets of images? Perhaps there is a substantial contribution from a 'satellite' crystal in on

Re: [ccp4bb] str solving problem

2013-06-21 Thread Francis E. Reyes
Pramod: [1] Please refrain from posting excessively large (>1MB) attachments to the ccp4bb. Either use a compression technique or use another means of transmitting large files to your recipients without spamming the entire group. [2] Your predictions are not overlaying well with the spots . W

Re: [ccp4bb] str solving problem

2013-06-21 Thread Ed Pozharski
On 06/20/2013 06:20 AM, Eleanor Dodson wrote: But you say you took the Balbes model into phaser? and I think Balbes automatically runs cycles of refinement so any comment on R factors may not mean much. I have seen a model coming out of Balbes pipeline hitting extremely high marks when fed in

Re: [ccp4bb] str solving problem

2013-06-20 Thread Eleanor Dodson
As others say - the Rfactors look pretty good for MR, mine usually start over 50% even with a better model and one hopes they then decrease.. But you say you took the Balbes model into phaser? and I think Balbes automatically runs cycles of refinement so any comment on R factors may not mean much.

Re: [ccp4bb] str solving problem

2013-06-19 Thread Eugene Valkov
Yes, I would agree with Francis that diffraction shows contribution from several lattices, which could lead to misindexing. However, it should be feasible to get a model that refines from this sort of data. Pramod - could you please post your data processing statistics from your scaling program? B

Re: [ccp4bb] str solving problem

2013-06-19 Thread Francis E. Reyes
On Jun 17, 2013, at 12:36 PM, Pramod Kumar wrote: >> I have a crystal data diffracted around 2.9 A*, >> during the data reduction HKL2000 not convincingly showed the space group >> (indexed in lower symmetry p1), while the mosflm given C-centered >> Orthorhombic, and again with little play ar

Re: [ccp4bb] str solving problem

2013-06-19 Thread Pramod Kumar
el: (+44) - 1865 - 287783 > and rob...@well.ox.ac.uk Fax: (+44) - 1865 - 287547 > > > Original message ---- > >Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 03:20:57 +0530 > >From: CCP4 bulletin board (on behalf of Pramod > Kumar ) > >Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] str solving problem &g

Re: [ccp4bb] str solving problem

2013-06-18 Thread Edward Lowe
> Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 02:58:36 +0530 To: mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>> Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] str solving problem Dear Abhinav I would suggest you integrate in p1 and run pointless. after integrating in p1 and running the pointless its still concluding the SG c2221. How do you dete

Re: [ccp4bb] str solving problem

2013-06-18 Thread Eugene Valkov
Hi Pramod, Refined LLG value of 1800 and R-factor of 46% at the end of the Phaser run does indicate a good MR solution. Your maps also look quite good and some positive density is visible near side chains. It would be helpful to see your translational Z-scores for both molecules placed, which can

Re: [ccp4bb] str solving problem

2013-06-17 Thread Pramod Kumar
*Dear Abhinav Kumar * *thanks for kind suggestions * * I have tried as follow. 1. You should try to identify the correct space group first. *integration in p21 given the following statics in pointless * * Alternative reindexing Lklhd CC R(E^2) Number Cell_deviation* * [h,

Re: [ccp4bb] str solving problem

2013-06-17 Thread Abhinav Kumar
Hi Pramod, 1. You should try to identify the correct space group first. Did you integrate in p1 and run pointless? 2. A template with 31% identity is not a great model. The number of molecules in ASU will affect your chances of success. Hopefully it's not large. wrfac of 0.6 and Rfree of 0.5 s