[cctalk] Re: Identifying a Failed Diode in a Rainbow H7842 Power Supply

2022-11-27 Thread Peter Coghlan via cctalk
> > I think that a good thing is to ramp up the input voltage slowly. Use a > bench PSU to supply the Vstart voltage and then use a variac with > insulation transformer to feed the rest if the supply. Use some small > loads on the 5V and 12V outputs. Now you can safely probe the PSU and > monitor

[cctalk] Re: Identifying a Failed Diode in a Rainbow H7842 Power Supply

2022-11-27 Thread John Robertson via cctalk
On 2022/11/27 1:21 a.m., Rob Jarratt via cctalk wrote: I have done a little more probing around. I have found that the 7812 regulator that drives Vstart on sheet 1 of Tony Duell’s schematic is shorted, so I will have to replace this too. I have not found anything else that looks obviously susp

[cctalk] Re: Identifying a Failed Diode in a Rainbow H7842 Power Supply

2022-11-27 Thread Mattis Lind via cctalk
> On 27 Nov 2022, at 10:21, Rob Jarratt wrote: > >  > I have done a little more probing around. I have found that the 7812 > regulator that drives Vstart on sheet 1 of Tony Duell’s schematic is shorted, > so I will have to replace this too. I have not found anything else that looks > obvio

[cctalk] Re: Identifying a Failed Diode in a Rainbow H7842 Power Supply

2022-11-27 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
I have done a little more probing around. I have found that the 7812 regulator that drives Vstart on sheet 1 of Tony Duell’s schematic is shorted, so I will have to replace this too. I have not found anything else that looks obviously suspicious. I can’t test the output rectifiers for shorts wit

[cctalk] Re: Identifying a Failed Diode in a Rainbow H7842 Power Supply

2022-11-26 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
> -Original Message- > From: Will Cooke via cctalk > Sent: 26 November 2022 19:12 > To: Rob Jarratt via cctalk > Cc: wrco...@wrcooke.net > Subject: [cctalk] Re: Identifying a Failed Diode in a Rainbow H7842 Power > Supply > > > I'm not at all famil

[cctalk] Re: Identifying a Failed Diode in a Rainbow H7842 Power Supply

2022-11-26 Thread Will Cooke via cctalk
> On 11/26/2022 12:47 PM CST Rob Jarratt via cctalk > wrote: > > > Just trying to decide what to replace the failed diode with, and looking at > the UF400x series, as suggested by Mattis. It seems to me that as long as the > PIV is 200V or higher it should be fine from that point of view,

[cctalk] Re: Identifying a Failed Diode in a Rainbow H7842 Power Supply

2022-11-26 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
nd Off-Topic Posts > > Cc: Peter Coghlan > Subject: [cctalk] Re: Identifying a Failed Diode in a Rainbow H7842 Power > Supply > > It is often possible to infer the component ratings needed from the other > components around them. A component in the base circuit of a transisto

[cctalk] Re: Identifying a Failed Diode in a Rainbow H7842 Power Supply

2022-11-25 Thread Peter Coghlan via cctalk
It is often possible to infer the component ratings needed from the other components around them. A component in the base circuit of a transistor is likely to experience lower currents and voltages than one in the collector circuit. In this case, we can see from Tony's diagram that there is a 2.7

[cctalk] Re: Identifying a Failed Diode in a Rainbow H7842 Power Supply

2022-11-25 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
Tony Duell has reverse engineered the following schematic. http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/rainbow/duell_schematics/psu.pdf I will go with the 1000V as you suggest anyway. Thanks Rob From: Mattis Lind Sent: 25 November 2022 07:12 To: r...@jarratt.me.uk Cc: General Discussion:

[cctalk] Re: Identifying a Failed Diode in a Rainbow H7842 Power Supply

2022-11-24 Thread Mattis Lind via cctalk
> On 24 Nov 2022, at 22:45, Rob Jarratt wrote: > >  > Thanks for the suggestion Mattis. The UF4007 has a PIV of 1000V, I had a > suggestion that the PIV should be 200V. Not sure what rating I should be > going for here? Given that I didn’t have a schematic and this is on the primary side I

[cctalk] Re: Identifying a Failed Diode in a Rainbow H7842 Power Supply

2022-11-24 Thread Don R via cctalk
You’re right, I superimposed the number. That certainly doesn’t help at all. Don Resor Sent from someone's iPhone > On Nov 23, 2022, at 10:50 PM, Don R via cctalk wrote: > > The data sheet lists H5892 through H5899 and H5900 through H5911. > > Don Resor > > Sent from someone's iPhone > >

[cctalk] Re: Identifying a Failed Diode in a Rainbow H7842 Power Supply

2022-11-24 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
Thanks for the suggestion Mattis. The UF4007 has a PIV of 1000V, I had a suggestion that the PIV should be 200V. Not sure what rating I should be going for here? Regards Rob From: Mattis Lind Sent: 22 November 2022 07:54 To: r...@jarratt.me.uk; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-T

[cctalk] Re: Identifying a Failed Diode in a Rainbow H7842 Power Supply

2022-11-23 Thread Don R via cctalk
The data sheet lists H5892 through H5899 and H5900 through H5911. Don Resor Sent from someone's iPhone > On Nov 23, 2022, at 4:32 PM, Peter Coghlan via cctalk > wrote: > > Don, > > Does the url suggest you may have searched for a H5901 rather than a H9501? > > Regards, > Peter Coghlan. >

[cctalk] Re: Identifying a Failed Diode in a Rainbow H7842 Power Supply

2022-11-23 Thread Peter Coghlan via cctalk
Don, Does the url suggest you may have searched for a H5901 rather than a H9501? Regards, Peter Coghlan. > > NTE seems to turn up these possibilities for a H9501. > > https://www.nteinc.com/search/search/search.php?ss360Query=H5901 > > Don Resor > > Sent from someone's iPhone > >> On Nov 23,

[cctalk] Re: Identifying a Failed Diode in a Rainbow H7842 Power Supply

2022-11-23 Thread Don R via cctalk
This data sheet may prove to be more useful. https://www.nteinc.com/specs/5800to5899/pdf/nte5892_99.pdf Don Resor Sent from someone's iPhone > On Nov 23, 2022, at 1:00 PM, Don R wrote: > > NTE seems to turn up these possibilities for a H9501. > > https://www.nteinc.com/search/search/search.

[cctalk] Re: Identifying a Failed Diode in a Rainbow H7842 Power Supply

2022-11-23 Thread Don R via cctalk
NTE seems to turn up these possibilities for a H9501. https://www.nteinc.com/search/search/search.php?ss360Query=H5901 Don Resor Sent from someone's iPhone > On Nov 23, 2022, at 12:04 PM, Antonio Carlini via cctalk > wrote: > > On 21/11/2022 21:45, Antonio Carlini wrote: >> >> I have two m

[cctalk] Re: Identifying a Failed Diode in a Rainbow H7842 Power Supply

2022-11-23 Thread Antonio Carlini via cctalk
On 21/11/2022 21:45, Antonio Carlini wrote: I have two more I can open up and look at, but I cannot get to them tonight and I'm probably out tomorrow too. But I think I can get to those other two supplies on Wednesday. Hopefully at least one of them will be readable! Otherwise I can desolder

[cctalk] Re: Identifying a Failed Diode in a Rainbow H7842 Power Supply

2022-11-22 Thread Matt Burke via cctalk
On 20/11/2022 21:03, Rob Jarratt via cctalk wrote: > The location of the diode is arrowed on this picture: > https://rjarratt.files.wordpress.com/2022/11/img_20221120_205802-arrowed.jpg > > You can also see the heatsink where the transistor used to be. The component you refer to as an inductor is

[cctalk] Re: Identifying a Failed Diode in a Rainbow H7842 Power Supply

2022-11-21 Thread Mattis Lind via cctalk
Hello Rob! > > Given that before the transistor blew up there had clearly been another > failure somewhere else, I tried to find the original failure. There were no > obviously damaged parts, so I just probed around near the transistor for > any > parts that were open circuit or short circuit. I

[cctalk] Re: Identifying a Failed Diode in a Rainbow H7842 Power Supply

2022-11-21 Thread Antonio Carlini via cctalk
On 20/11/2022 21:03, Rob Jarratt wrote: Thanks Antonio, The location of the diode is arrowed on this picture: https://rjarratt.files.wordpress.com/2022/11/img_20221120_205802-arrowed.jpg You can also see the heatsink where the transistor used to be. This is mine: https://drive.google.com/f

[cctalk] Re: Identifying a Failed Diode in a Rainbow H7842 Power Supply

2022-11-20 Thread Peter Coghlan via cctalk
t; > Thanks > > Rob > > > -Original Message- > > From: Peter Coghlan via cctalk > > Sent: 20 November 2022 18:50 > > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > > > > Cc: Peter Coghlan > > Subject: [cctalk] Re: Identifyi

[cctalk] Re: Identifying a Failed Diode in a Rainbow H7842 Power Supply

2022-11-20 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
cctalk > Sent: 20 November 2022 20:38 > To: Rob Jarratt via cctalk > Cc: Antonio Carlini > Subject: [cctalk] Re: Identifying a Failed Diode in a Rainbow H7842 Power > Supply > > On 20/11/2022 17:40, Rob Jarratt via cctalk wrote: > > The H7842 PSU in my Rainbow failed yesterd

[cctalk] Re: Identifying a Failed Diode in a Rainbow H7842 Power Supply

2022-11-20 Thread Antonio Carlini via cctalk
On 20/11/2022 17:40, Rob Jarratt via cctalk wrote: The H7842 PSU in my Rainbow failed yesterday. At first the machine just powered down and there was a slight burning smell, I wasn't next to the machine when this happened, so I didn't see or hear anything to tell me where the problem might be. No

[cctalk] Re: Identifying a Failed Diode in a Rainbow H7842 Power Supply

2022-11-20 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
Rob > -Original Message- > From: Peter Coghlan via cctalk > Sent: 20 November 2022 18:50 > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > > Cc: Peter Coghlan > Subject: [cctalk] Re: Identifying a Failed Diode in a Rainbow H7842 Power > Supply > >

[cctalk] Re: Identifying a Failed Diode in a Rainbow H7842 Power Supply

2022-11-20 Thread Peter Coghlan via cctalk
Hi Rob, I'm only guessing here. I think the sequence may have been that the main switching transistor failed first as it would be under more stress than a diode in the base circuit. If the transistor shorted E-B-C then the HT would become connected to the circuitry at it's base which would be co