[cctalk] Re: RIP: Software design pioneer and Pascal creator Niklaus Wirth

2024-01-05 Thread Kevin Jordan via cctalk
Both ALGOL60 and ALGOL68 are also available on the CDC Cyber 865 and CDC Cyber 175 at the Nostalgic Computing Center (http://www.nostalgiccomputing.org), and both are also available in the NOS 2.8.7 distribution with DtCyber in the GitHub repo at https://github.com/kej715/DtCyber. Pascal is avai

[cctalk] Re: RIP: Software design pioneer and Pascal creator Niklaus Wirth

2024-01-05 Thread Gary Grebus via cctalk
On 1/4/24 19:34, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: I think the CDC 6000 Algol 68 is still around somewhere. That one was created in Holland. There is NOS/BE install for DtCyber available from retro1.org. It includes binaries of both Algol 60 and Algol 68 compilers. Gary

[cctalk] Re: RIP: Software design pioneer and Pascal creator Niklaus Wirth

2024-01-05 Thread Steve Lewis via cctalk
In further honor of Niklaus Wirth and Pascal: In a Poly-88 system I acquired last year, it had a printing of the Tiny Pascal Compiler article in a 1978 BYTE publication. That has BASIC source code for the initial interpreter of a Pascal compiler. We ported that over to the Commodore BASIC V2, a

[cctalk] Re: RIP: Software design pioneer and Pascal creator Niklaus Wirth

2024-01-05 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Jan 4, 2024, at 11:08 PM, Paul Berger via cctalk > wrote: > > Pascal did not have strings originally, but it is a common "enhancement". I > recall 40 years ago setting out to write a program to create a data file > using the S/370 ANSI Pascal compiler and it did not have strings. Sou

[cctalk] Re: RIP: Software design pioneer and Pascal creator Niklaus Wirth

2024-01-05 Thread Lars Brinkhoff via cctalk
Paul Koning wrote: > Pascal is still around; the GCC compiler suite has it, and Modula-2 as > well. Speaking of which, GCC (or its first attempt) came from a Pascal compiler called Pastel.

[cctalk] Re: RIP: Software design pioneer and Pascal creator Niklaus Wirth

2024-01-04 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
> -Original Message- > From: Paul Koning > Sent: 05 January 2024 00:34 > To: r...@jarratt.me.uk; cctalk@classiccmp.org > Cc: Robert Jarratt > Subject: Re: [cctalk] RIP: Software design pioneer and Pascal creator Niklaus > Wirth > > > > > On Jan 4, 2024, at 5:38 PM, Rob Jarratt via c

[cctalk] Re: RIP: Software design pioneer and Pascal creator Niklaus Wirth

2024-01-04 Thread David Barto via cctalk
I worked on the UCSD Pascal project which started from the P2 compiler that Wirth created for the CDC computer. I loved working on the project and even more learning so much about compilers, linkers, OS design and how to make it all work really well and pretty darn fast for a PDP-11/02 with 64K

[cctalk] Re: RIP: Software design pioneer and Pascal creator Niklaus Wirth

2024-01-04 Thread Paul Berger via cctalk
Pascal did not have strings originally, but it is a common "enhancement".  I recall 40 years ago setting out to write a program to create a data file using the S/370 ANSI Pascal compiler and it did not have strings. Paul. On 2024-01-04 8:51 p.m., Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote: Pascal has s

[cctalk] Re: RIP: Software design pioneer and Pascal creator Niklaus Wirth

2024-01-04 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 1/4/24 15:49, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: On Jan 4, 2024, at 4:32 PM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: Evangelist of lean software and devisor of 9 programming languages and an OS was 89 https://www.theregister.com/2024/01/04/niklaus_wirth_obituary/ The great man has left us. Great man,

[cctalk] Re: RIP: Software design pioneer and Pascal creator Niklaus Wirth

2024-01-04 Thread Sellam Abraham via cctalk
Pascal has strings. Sellam On Thu, Jan 4, 2024 at 4:19 PM Warner Losh via cctalk wrote: > My first two pascal programs of any size were an Alarm Clock for my DEC > Rainbow and a PDP-11 simulator, also for my DEC Rainbow (I did a science > fair project comparing stack machines to traditional one

[cctalk] Re: RIP: Software design pioneer and Pascal creator Niklaus Wirth

2024-01-04 Thread Murray McCullough via cctalk
Many thanks Liam. N. Wirth, the man and his creation(s), has a special place in my understanding of computers and how programming works - the way it should. Great men do change things and in N. Wirth's case much for the better in the computing world and dare I say beyond. Murray 🙂 On Thu, Jan 4,

[cctalk] Re: RIP: Software design pioneer and Pascal creator Niklaus Wirth

2024-01-04 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Jan 4, 2024, at 5:38 PM, Rob Jarratt via cctalk > wrote: > > Sad news but a great article Liam, thanks for the interesting history. > > The second language I taught myself was Algol 68 (!), on a DECSYSTEM20. I > learned Pascal at University, when I did my M.Sc I used VAX Pascal on a VA

[cctalk] Re: RIP: Software design pioneer and Pascal creator Niklaus Wirth

2024-01-04 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
My first two pascal programs of any size were an Alarm Clock for my DEC Rainbow and a PDP-11 simulator, also for my DEC Rainbow (I did a science fair project comparing stack machines to traditional ones, but invented my own stack machine and was too young to know the right way to compare/contrast t

[cctalk] Re: RIP: Software design pioneer and Pascal creator Niklaus Wirth

2024-01-04 Thread Sellam Abraham via cctalk
Nice obituary. I'll have to admit I learned a lot about the man reading it. Sellam On Thu, Jan 4, 2024 at 1:32 PM Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: > Evangelist of lean software and devisor of 9 programming languages and > an OS was 89 > > https://www.theregister.com/2024/01/04/niklaus_wirth_obitu

[cctalk] Re: RIP: Software design pioneer and Pascal creator Niklaus Wirth

2024-01-04 Thread geneb via cctalk
On Thu, 4 Jan 2024, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: On Jan 4, 2024, at 4:32 PM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: Evangelist of lean software and devisor of 9 programming languages and an OS was 89 https://www.theregister.com/2024/01/04/niklaus_wirth_obituary/ The great man has left us. Grea

[cctalk] Re: RIP: Software design pioneer and Pascal creator Niklaus Wirth

2024-01-04 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
Sad news but a great article Liam, thanks for the interesting history. The second language I taught myself was Algol 68 (!), on a DECSYSTEM20. I learned Pascal at University, when I did my M.Sc I used VAX Pascal on a VAX 11/780 and went on to use it as my first professional language. I loved VAX

[cctalk] Re: RIP: Software design pioneer and Pascal creator Niklaus Wirth

2024-01-04 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Jan 4, 2024, at 4:32 PM, Liam Proven via cctalk > wrote: > > Evangelist of lean software and devisor of 9 programming languages and > an OS was 89 > > https://www.theregister.com/2024/01/04/niklaus_wirth_obituary/ > > The great man has left us. Great man, indeed. I still have a soft