Re: What is the most amount of money you've spent on a computer or computer-related item?

On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 12:35 PM, Andy Cloud wrote: > If you're willing to answer it would also be interesting to know what drove > you to spend as much as you did on that particular computer? > Not money spent per se, but recently a Multics user ran the billing cycle

Re: What is the most amount of money you've spent on a computer or computer-related item?

Interesting question ... brings back good and bad memories :) Probably $5,800 for an HP 3000 Corporate Business System (a 12-processor HP 3000/997). it was a million dollar machine when new. I bought it for $300, paid about $500 for delivery, and $5000 to get the three-phase power installed for

Re: What is the most prized possession in your collection?

Doh, replied to wrong thread On 2017-01-14 12:59, Alan Hightower wrote: > I have high 5 figures invested into a home soldering lab. I use a > digital video scope now, however for 5-6 years before that, I used this > scope nearly every day for mostly 0402/.5 mm pitch soldering and repair: >

Re: What is the most prized possession in your collection?

Alan! Neat! I like this arm you have! I also have an articulating monster B & L arm and it is amazing but it takes up space on the desk with a monster base. Ed# In a message dated 1/14/2017 10:58:57 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, a...@alanlee.org writes: I have high

Re: What is the most prized possession in your collection?

That's a hard one.  I feel like the answer should be 'my Mark-8 boards!', because they are so rare.  But they're just boards.. they don't do anything.  I find the computer I keep coming back to is my Digital Group z80.  Digital Group just has that personality factor.  

Re: What is the most prized possession in your collection?

I have high 5 figures invested into a home soldering lab. I use a digital video scope now, however for 5-6 years before that, I used this scope nearly every day for mostly 0402/.5 mm pitch soldering and repair:

Re: What is the most prized possession in your collection?

Hard to say which one is most lovely, maybe I just list three most important for me. First is my full IBM 1800 system including 2311 drives, 1627 plotter, etc... http://ennenmikrotietokoneita.blogspot.fi/2015/08/1800-kesakuvia.html I got CPU to run a year ago, other parts are under progress.

Re: What is the most amount of money you've spent on a computer or computer-related item?

On 01/13/2017 05:14 PM, Kyle Owen wrote: I'd be interested in seeing some pictures of your photoplotter, if you have a chance. Now with the idea of direct toner transfer with modern laser printers, I can see bringing a darkroom into it as being a bit of a hassle. See

Re: What is the most amount of money you've spent on a computer or computer-related item?

On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 4:24 PM, Jon Elson wrote: > >>> I have a laser photoplotter I built a long time ago to make circuit > board artwork. It does 1000 x 1000 DPI via a raster process, wrapping the > film around a drum. After moving all the conversion software over to

Re: What is the most amount of money you've spent on a computer or computer-related item?

On 2017-01-13 7:24 PM, Jon Elson wrote: On 01/13/2017 12:16 PM, Al Kossow wrote: On 1/13/17 10:05 AM, Toby Thain wrote: AUD $25,000 for a Linotype L100 PostScript imagesetter (used). I have a laser photoplotter I built a long time ago to make circuit board artwork. It does 1000 x 1000

Re: What is the most amount of money you've spent on a computer or computer-related item?

On 01/13/2017 12:16 PM, Al Kossow wrote: On 1/13/17 10:05 AM, Toby Thain wrote: AUD $25,000 for a Linotype L100 PostScript imagesetter (used). I have a laser photoplotter I built a long time ago to make circuit board artwork. It does 1000 x 1000 DPI via a raster process, wrapping the

Re: What is the most amount of money you've spent on a computer or computer-related item?

On 2017-01-13 5:19 PM, Paul Koning wrote: On Jan 13, 2017, at 2:02 PM, Toby Thain wrote: On 2017-01-13 3:17 PM, Paul Koning wrote: On Jan 13, 2017, at 1:05 PM, Toby Thain wrote: ... AUD $25,000 for a Linotype L100 PostScript imagesetter

Re: What is the most amount of money you've spent on a computer or computer-related item?

On 2017-01-13 5:19 PM, Paul Koning wrote: On Jan 13, 2017, at 2:02 PM, Toby Thain wrote: On 2017-01-13 3:17 PM, Paul Koning wrote: On Jan 13, 2017, at 1:05 PM, Toby Thain wrote: ... AUD $25,000 for a Linotype L100 PostScript imagesetter

Re: What is the most prized possession in your collection?

Mine is the HP-2000 ... it was a game changer for me in the used computer business as it gave me a one company direction... from dealing in parts to keep it alive to having HP-3000 systems being an indy new HP dealer on PC products in the 80s into the 90s. On a more

Re: What is the most amount of money you've spent on a computer or computer-related item?

> On Jan 13, 2017, at 2:02 PM, Toby Thain wrote: > > On 2017-01-13 3:17 PM, Paul Koning wrote: >> >>> On Jan 13, 2017, at 1:05 PM, Toby Thain wrote: >>> ... >>> AUD $25,000 for a Linotype L100 PostScript imagesetter (used). >>> >>> Has a

Re: What is the most amount of money you've spent on a computer or computer-related item?

On 2017-01-13 3:17 PM, Paul Koning wrote: On Jan 13, 2017, at 1:05 PM, Toby Thain wrote: ... AUD $25,000 for a Linotype L100 PostScript imagesetter (used). Has a 68K computer inside it with Adobe ROMs. Communication via serial or AppleTalk. One of the first high

Re: What is the most amount of money you've spent on a computer or computer-related item?

> On Jan 13, 2017, at 1:05 PM, Toby Thain wrote: > ... > AUD $25,000 for a Linotype L100 PostScript imagesetter (used). > > Has a 68K computer inside it with Adobe ROMs. Communication via serial or > AppleTalk. > > One of the first high resolution PostScript

Re: What is the most amount of money you've spent on a computer or computer-related item?

On 1/13/17 10:05 AM, Toby Thain wrote: > AUD $25,000 for a Linotype L100 PostScript imagesetter (used). > > Has a 68K computer inside it with Adobe ROMs. Communication via serial or > AppleTalk. > > One of the first high resolution PostScript imagesetters. Put a lot of feet > of bromide

Re: What is the most amount of money you've spent on a computer or computer-related item?

tor 2017-01-12 klockan 20:35 + skrev Andy Cloud: > Hi Everyone! > > I know this is a bit of a personal question, so please feel free to ignore > this email! > > If you're willing to answer it would also be interesting to know what drove > you to spend as much as you did on that particular

Re: What is the most prized possession in your collection?

On 01/13/2017 05:02 AM, Alexandre Souza wrote: We've talked about the most expensive, the most rare, the less usual... Now lets talk about what you love most <3 For me is the Apple IIe signed by Woz :D What is your most prized and loved possession? :) Well, the Honeywell Alert is rather

Re: What is the most prized possession in your collection?

On Fri, 13 Jan 2017, Charles Anthony wrote: (The second reply was received in June 2014. On Jan 6 of this year, the ad hoc MCRB (Multics Change Request Board) approved MCR10021 fixing the bug.) I think this one is the most awesome yet. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007

Re: What is the most prized possession in your collection?

On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 3:02 AM, Alexandre Souza < alexandre.tabaj...@gmail.com> wrote: > We've talked about the most expensive, the most rare, the less usual... > > Now lets talk about what you love most <3 > > Two emails. While getting Multics up and running, I discovered a few bugs in

Re: What is the most prized possession in your collection?

We've talked about the most expensive, the most rare, the less usual... Now lets talk about what you love most <3 For me is the Apple IIe signed by Woz :D What is your most prized and loved possession? :) For me it's similar, IIGS signed by Woz! -- Ethan O'Toole

Re: What is the most amount of money you've spent on a computer or computer-related item?

On 01/12/2017 08:55 PM, Jon Elson wrote: > Well, in 1986, I paid something like $6700 for a KA630-AA (UVax-II CPU > board). > I got an Andromeda disk controller (MFM hard disk + floppy) and ran > pirated VMS off a 40 MB drive. Slowly upgraded it all to a VaxStation > II, then VaxStation II GPX

Re: What is the most amount of money you've spent on a computer or computer-related item?

I agree with Terry. It's not just the initial cost, but the shipping, blood, sweat, tears, and pushing my mind, spine, etc to the limits. I don't usually put over a few thousand into one toy, but have gone way past that for packages. On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 8:37 PM, Rich Cini

Re: What is the most amount of money you've spent on a computer or computer-related item?

Hmmm. Well, in 1985 I spent something like $6500 or $7000 on a complete Mac 512k system. Ok, the box itself was only $2795 or something like that but it was all of the other stuff like the software, printer, disk drive, modem, numeric keyboard that added up. I still have the receipt somewhere

Re: What is the most amount of money you've spent on a computer or computer-related item?

Well, in 1986, I paid something like $6700 for a KA630-AA (UVax-II CPU board). I got an Andromeda disk controller (MFM hard disk + floppy) and ran pirated VMS off a 40 MB drive. Slowly upgraded it all to a VaxStation II, then VaxStation II GPX (color graphics), added a bunch of tape drives.

Re: What is the most amount of money you've spent on a computer or computer-related item?

> If you're willing to answer it would also be interesting to know what drove > you to spend as much as you did on that particular computer? The most I spent personally was a bit over $10,000 for my personal POWER6 server. I was actually ready to buy a brand new POWER7 (which would probably have

Re: What is the most amount of money you've spent on a computer or computer-related item?

I find generally I haven't paid too much for the gear I've got. However, it's not the initial payment, it's the shipping (huge when your talking about New Zealand from anywhere), and then the bits and pieces you might have to buy to repair/restore the said item. These two incidentals often cost

Re: What is the most amount of money you've spent on a computer or computer-related item?

I rarely go above $1000.. I spent $1500 for my Mark-8 boards.  And I considered that a bargain considering what they were.

Re: What is the most amount of money you've spent on a computer or computer-related item?

On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 3:08 PM, Al Kossow wrote: > $15,000 for a used Mekel microfiche scanner in the early-2000's > I have a Mekel M565 and an M525, with the greyscale interface card, sitting in my office. They were a parting gift from my boss when we closed the old

Re: What is the most amount of money you've spent on a computer or computer-related item?

On Thu, 12 Jan 2017, Andy Cloud wrote: If you're willing to answer it would also be interesting to know what drove you to spend as much as you did on that particular computer? I got in a bidding war with someone and ended up paying $330 for six Onyx2 racks from Boeing surplus about ten

Re: What is the most amount of money you've spent on a computer or computer-related item?

On Thu, 12 Jan 2017, Ethan Dicks wrote: I'm sure there are people who are offended and/or horrified by the question. The number of responses (or lack thereof) will likely indicate the size of that pool. My upper limit has been at $800 surprisingly often. After I purchased the "Technical

Re: What is the most amount of money you've spent on a computer or computer-related item?

On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 4:08 PM, Al Kossow wrote: > $15,000 for a used Mekel microfiche scanner in the early-2000's Oof! > It turned out to be just past prototype stage, was missing the pneumatic > fiche handler > and never really got it working at production volumes. The

Re: What is the most amount of money you've spent on a computer or computer-related item?

$15,000 for a used Mekel microfiche scanner in the early-2000's It turned out to be just past prototype stage, was missing the pneumatic fiche handler and never really got it working at production volumes. The small number of fiche scans on bitsavers from around then was the sum total of the

Re: What is the most amount of money you've spent on a computer or computer-related item?

On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 3:56 PM, Ethan Dicks wrote: > On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 3:51 PM, william degnan wrote: >> I am sure you did not mean to cause offence but I don't that if this is an >> appropriate question to ask here. If someone paid a large

Re: What is the most amount of money you've spent on a computer or computer-related item?

On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 3:51 PM, william degnan wrote: > I am sure you did not mean to cause offence but I don't that if this is an > appropriate question to ask here. At least not on classiccmp. But I > guess we'll find out what others think. I don't want to start a

Re: What is the most amount of money you've spent on a computer or computer-related item?

Haha! Great question - I primed her with shoes before the purchase then casually told her I had just bought a $2,000 computer, she tried to be angry but she got she shoes she'd always wanted so it nutralized it :D _>Andy On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 at 20:46, Charles Anthony

Re: What is the most amount of money you've spent on a computer or computer-related item?

On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 3:35 PM, Andy Cloud wrote: > Hi Everyone! > > I know this is a bit of a personal question, so please feel free to ignore > this email! > > If you're willing to answer it would also be interesting to know what drove > you to spend as much as you did on

Re: What is the most amount of money you've spent on a computer or computer-related item?

I think the most expensive machine I ever bought (with my own money) was a VAX-11/725 in 1986. $4000. I did it, in part because DEC was eliminating free license transferrals with after-market hardware sales. It looked like my cheapest option to have my own VAX, and for a time, it was.

Re: What is the most amount of money you've spent on a computer or computer-related item?

On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 12:35 PM, Andy Cloud wrote: > Hi Everyone! > > I know this is a bit of a personal question, so please feel free to ignore > this email! > > If you're willing to answer it would also be interesting to know what drove > you to spend as much as you did on

Re: What the heck is the deal with this eBay item

On 11/10/2016 12:22 PM, Glen Slick wrote: On Nov 4, 2016 8:03 AM, "Glen Slick" wrote: The listing seems to have vanished now. (Probably just as well). Maybe the listing was reported and removed. It was listed again exactly the same.

RE: What the heck is the deal with this eBay item

>I suspect that Mr. 434 didn't know > what he / she was dealing with and was lucky not to lose > 202.50 worth > of their money and a lot of time. > > thanks > Jim Time maybe, money no. This is the one reason eBay stays in business and people spend money there. You are basically guaranteed not

Re: What the heck is the deal with this eBay item

nt: Thursday, November 10, 2016 10:42:18 AM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: What the heck is the deal with this eBay item On 11/10/2016 10:22 AM, Glen Slick wrote: > On Nov 4, 2016 8:03 AM, "Glen Slick" <glen.sl...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>

Re: What the heck is the deal with this eBay item

I do watch the auctions for this Helios drive but won't bid. Too much BS going on with this seller, it seems. I suspect the private seller is an alter ego of his. I did manage to find a Cromemco PFD Persci dual drive this morning on eBay for $250. I have every confidence this will come. I

Re: What the heck is the deal with this eBay item

On 11/10/2016 10:22 AM, Glen Slick wrote: On Nov 4, 2016 8:03 AM, "Glen Slick" wrote: The listing seems to have vanished now. (Probably just as well). Maybe the listing was reported and removed. It was listed again exactly the same.

Re: What the heck is the deal with this eBay item

On Nov 4, 2016 8:03 AM, "Glen Slick" wrote: > > > The listing seems to have vanished now. (Probably just as well). > > > > Maybe the listing was reported and removed. It was listed again exactly the same. > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/272436936862 Sold for $202.50 this time

Re: What interest in a

: "Richard Smith" <richard.sm...@mewgull.com> To: "cctalk" <cctalk@classiccmp.org> Sent: Friday, November 4, 2016 7:10:22 AM Subject: Re: What interest in a I'm much less interested in a bidding war that most people would be. The computer is sitting on my shelf, it

Re: What interest in a

: "Richard" <mol...@gmail.com> To: "cctalk" <cctalk@classiccmp.org> Sent: Friday, November 4, 2016 4:26:14 AM Subject: Re: What interest in a Wow! That amount of interest wasn't expected at all. I have a best offer so far of £100 (112€ / $124) plus shipping. The ch

Re: What the heck is the deal with this eBay item

> The listing seems to have vanished now. (Probably just as well). > Maybe the listing was reported and removed. It was listed again exactly the same. https://www.ebay.com/itm/272436936862

Re: What interest in a

$50 to U.S. would likely be the same for Canada, so I'm still interested... but let's try not to make this into a 'bidding war'. From: "Richard" <mol...@gmail.com> To: "cctalk" <cctalk@classiccmp.org> Sent: Friday, November 4, 2016 4:26:14 AM Subje

Re: What interest in a

Wow! That amount of interest wasn't expected at all. I have a best offer so far of £100 (112€ / $124) plus shipping. The cheapest shipping to the USA would be $50, into Europe would be 18€ for the parcel which weighs in at 8kg / 18lb. All at your risk. I don't want to put it on ebay, I'd

Re: What interest in a

Wow! That amount of interest wasn't expected at all. I have a best offer so far of £100 (112€ / $124) plus shipping. The cheapest shipping to the USA would be $50, into Europe would be 18€ for the parcel which weighs in at 8kg / 18lb. All at your risk. I don't want to put it on ebay, I'd

Re: What the heck is the deal with this eBay item

On 02/11/16 00:12, Glen Slick wrote: On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 4:43 PM, Corey Cohen wrote: https://www.ebay.com/itm/272433760795 This Helios II has been "sold" multiple times for varying amounts and then suddenly hours later appears for sale again. I'm done bidding on

Re: What the heck is the deal with this eBay item

One thing is for certain: If it's in eBay's financial interest (page hits, insertion and final value fees), and they can plausibly deny any liability or other involvement, they will just let it ride - and the often highly-touted TOS (aka "the rules") be damned. In short - If they can skim a

Re: What the heck is the deal with this eBay item

I've been wondering about that one myself.  Very odd.  That's not the first time I've seen that either. Along with stuff that 'sells' for absurd amounts of money. At first I though the absurd sales were attempts to manipulate the market.. but it doesn't seem worth the effort or ebay fees.

Re: What the heck is the deal with this eBay item

On 11/01/2016 07:12 PM, Glen Slick wrote: On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 4:43 PM, Corey Cohen wrote: https://www.ebay.com/itm/272433760795 This Helios II has been "sold" multiple times for varying amounts and then suddenly hours later appears for sale again. I'm done

Re: What the heck is the deal with this eBay item

On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 8:56 PM, Corey Cohen wrote: > Sure if the unit worked or was confirmed to have an intact glass scale it > might be worth a a ton. > It certainly weights a ton ;) I've been watching these auctions too and now I understand the funny business with

Re: What the heck is the deal with this eBay item

> On Nov 1, 2016, at 8:12 PM, Glen Slick wrote: > >> On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 4:43 PM, Corey Cohen wrote: >> https://www.ebay.com/itm/272433760795 >> >> This Helios II has been "sold" multiple times for varying amounts and then >> suddenly hours

Re: What the heck is the deal with this eBay item

This is the same guy that "sold" an Alto a few months ago for an insane amt of money. On 11/1/16 5:31 PM, Glen Slick wrote: > More reasons to stay away: > > http://www.vcfed.org/forum/showthread.php?29469-(not-mine)-Another-Altair-8800B-w-drive-on-feebay >

Re: What the heck is the deal with this eBay item

More reasons to stay away: http://www.vcfed.org/forum/showthread.php?29469-(not-mine)-Another-Altair-8800B-w-drive-on-feebay

Re: What the heck is the deal with this eBay item

Yep. Stay away. This seller is breaking eBay policies because that 21 days is required to allow the buyer to lodge a grievance if something is wrong. The seller should avtually be reported. Doug Jackson On 2 November 2016 11:12:14 am AEDT, Glen Slick wrote: >On Tue,

Re: What the heck is the deal with this eBay item

On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 4:43 PM, Corey Cohen wrote: > https://www.ebay.com/itm/272433760795 > > This Helios II has been "sold" multiple times for varying amounts and then > suddenly hours later appears for sale again. I'm done bidding on this each > time it appears,

Re: What hardware runs 2BSD (was Re: For sale 128K Core RAM Industrial PDP 11/40 Massbus System)

On 2016-10-31 09:16, Ethan Dicks wrote: On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 11:11 AM, emanuel stiebler wrote: On 2016-10-31 08:48, Ethan Dicks wrote: One of the great recent updates was backporting the MSCP driver from 2.11 to 2.9. That opens up KDF11 MicroPDP-11s to running 2.9 with

Re: What is the KH11-A? (was Re: Differences between the PDP-11/15 and PDP-11/20)

> On Aug 21, 2016, at 11:36 PM, Ethan Dicks wrote: > > ... > Second, many/most of the CPU modules are -YA variants, and the "PDP-11 > Field Guide" mentions that they would be part of a KH11-A. About the > only description I can find for what that is, is a single mention

Re: What is the KH11-A? (was Re: Differences between the PDP-11/15 and PDP-11/20)

On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 8:49 AM, Noel Chiappa wrote: > > I recall reading _somewhere_ about some early PDP-11 memory management > > thing used on early PDP-11 Unix that supported the KE11 ... by having a > > small window that allowed user code access to the

Re: What is the KH11-A? (was Re: Differences between the PDP-11/15 and PDP-11/20)

On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 8:16 AM, Noel Chiappa wrote: > > From: Ethan Dicks > > Second, many/most of the CPU modules are -YA variants, and the "PDP-11 > > Field Guide" mentions that they would be part of a KH11-A. > > I've been told that it's a revision to the

Re: What is the KH11-A? (was Re: Differences between the PDP-11/15 and PDP-11/20)

> I recall reading _somewhere_ about some early PDP-11 memory management > thing used on early PDP-11 Unix that supported the KE11 ... by having a > small window that allowed user code access to the KE11. ... > Does this ring any bells for anyone? Never mind - found it, it was in

Re: What is the KH11-A? (was Re: Differences between the PDP-11/15 and PDP-11/20)

Hi Ethan, I've seen the M780s before, but its been a while. The DT03 and DT07 are Unibus switiches. I have several edited option/module lists I can look up boards for you. Also a fellow list member just scanned a hardware spare parts list that could have some relevant info in it. I'm sure he'll

Re: What do members do for substitute monochrome monitors ?

On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 7:07 AM, Maciej W. Rozycki wrote: > On Sun, 3 Apr 2016, Pete Lancashire wrote: > > > I'll soon be powering up a HP 9000/310 (98561-66525) but do not have an > a > > single monochrome monitor. > > > > Suggestions ? > > I've had success with a NEC

Re: What do members do for substitute monochrome monitors ?

On Sun, 3 Apr 2016, Pete Lancashire wrote: > I'll soon be powering up a HP 9000/310 (98561-66525) but do not have an a > single monochrome monitor. > > Suggestions ? I've had success with a NEC MultiSync LCD2090UXi monitor, which can be configured on an input-by-input basis (at least for its

Re: What to Do with a PS/2?

On 30 January 2016 at 06:18, Robert Ferguson wrote: > This is exactly correct, although marketing had nothing to do with the “NT” > retcon; we did it ourselves. > > - Rob > > ps: the i860 was not a pleasant thing. There was much rejoicing in the halls > the day we decided to

Re: What to Do with a PS/2?

> On Jan 27, 2016, at 22:52, John Blake wrote: > > Vetusware is highly unreliable and tries to charge for accounts, which isn't > worth it at all because most of the things I've gotten from there haven't > worked. Try: https://winworldpc.com/library I got the "blue

Re: What to Do with a PS/2?

> On Jan 28, 2016, at 5:01 AM, Liam Proven wrote: > > Actually, though, it was developed on multiple CPU platforms, and one > was an in-house board design based around Intel's RISC chip, the i860 > -- codenamed the N10. NT allegedly stood for "N Ten" before MS > marketing

Re: What to Do with a PS/2?

[massive snippage, sorry] Several folks have mentioned Dave Cutler. There's a book called "Inside Windows NT", by Helen Custer at Microsoft Press. The aforementioned Dave Cutler (architect of software including RSX11, VAX/VMS, VAXELN, and WNT) wrote a foreword for it. There, he says the goals

Re: What to Do with a PS/2?

On 27 January 2016 at 23:00, Geoffrey Oltmans wrote: > Hmmm... agree to disagree I guess. I generally found the Workplace shell in > OS/2 a bit cumbersome and maddening compared to a lot of the GUI > alternatives. I have to agree. Classic MacOS, particularly in MacOS 8 and

Re: What to Do with a PS/2?

On 27 January 2016 at 18:38, j...@cimmeri.com wrote: > Correct me if I'm remembering incorrectly (probably am), but wasn't NT a > descendent of DEC VMS? Oversimplifying freely: DEC OS team lead Dave Cutler wanted to take VAX/VMS multi-platform. DEC rejected this. So he allowed

Re: What to Do with a PS/2?

tor 2016-01-28 klockan 01:52 -0500 skrev John Blake: > Vetusware is highly unreliable and tries to charge for accounts, which > isn't worth it at all because most of the things I've gotten from there > haven't worked. Try: https://winworldpc.com/library > > Their images are tested, I've used

Re: What to Do with a PS/2?

ons 2016-01-27 klockan 14:42 +0100 skrev Liam Proven: > But trying the modern version today brings the bad memories flooding > back, I'm afraid... Of multi-thousand-line CONFIG.SYS files, of > juggling drivers (PATA versus SATA today, for example), of patchy or > missing hardware support etc. >

Re: What to Do with a PS/2?

I finally managed to get OS/2 Warp Connect 3.0 installed after a few tries. I think that messing with the SCSI2SD settings fixed things. My best guess is that with the default settings the BIOS code could access the drive, but once OS/2 switched over to its own drivers part way through the

Re: What to Do with a PS/2?

Vetusware is highly unreliable and tries to charge for accounts, which isn't worth it at all because most of the things I've gotten from there haven't worked. Try: https://winworldpc.com/library Their images are tested, I've used the OS/2 Warp 4 images to install on an old thinkpad 760. I'd

Re: What to Do with a PS/2?

I tried the touch screen again. This time the mouse remained working, and it's kind of usable-ish after running the CALIBRAT.EXE utility. -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X http://www.nf6x.net/

Re: What to Do with a PS/2?

> Correct me if I'm remembering incorrectly (probably am), but wasn't > NT a descendent of DEC VMS? As I understand it - an important caveat here - Windows NT was to some extent a conceptual descendent of VMS, but that was more because the same person was instrumental in designing both than

Re: What to Do with a PS/2?

On 1/27/2016 8:42 AM, Liam Proven wrote: I actually bought OS/2 with my own money. I was always extremely averse to doing that. It was good for its time, but NT 3.x was technically superior, just lacking in the UI department. Correct me if I'm remembering incorrectly (probably am), but

Re: What to Do with a PS/2?

Correct me if I'm remembering incorrectly (probably am), but wasn't NT a descendent of DEC VMS? On Wed, 27 Jan 2016, Mouse wrote: As I understand it - an important caveat here - Windows NT was to some extent a conceptual descendent of VMS, but that was more because the same person was

Re: What to Do with a PS/2?

On 1/27/2016 1:14 PM, John Willis wrote: Correct me if I'm remembering incorrectly (probably am), but wasn't NT a descendent of DEC VMS? As I understand it - an important caveat here - Windows NT was to some extent a conceptual descendent of VMS, but that was more because the same person was

Re: What to Do with a PS/2?

On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 12:14 PM, John Willis wrote: > everything-is-plaintext philosophy. IMO, NT offers a better kernel than > OS/2, > but nothing has ever matched the elegance and sheer power of the Workplace > Shell as a graphical abstraction. > Hmmm... agree to

Re: What to Do with a PS/2?

On 27 January 2016 at 07:18, Mark J. Blair wrote: > That XDFCOPY.EXE from the BonusPak ISO also has the same issue under MS-DOS > 6.22 on the PS/2. However, I got an OS/2 prompt from the first two floppies > of the OS/2 Warp Connect 3.0 set (which are regular 1.44M floppies), and

Re: What to Do with a PS/2?

On 26 January 2016 at 17:24, Mark J. Blair wrote: > That site looks a bit more challenging for an English-only speaker. :) Maybe > google translate can help me find my way around... yeah, much better now. > Thanks for the links! Yes, it certainly is. I live in the Czech

Re: What to Do with a PS/2?

XDFCOPY.EXE from that BonusPak ISO isn't working on my ImageDisk rig; it says it can't format track 0. I think I'll try reinstalling DOS 6.22 on the PS/2 temporarily to see if I can write out the XDF disks there. Or maybe I'll try PC-DOS 7 if I can find it. -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X

Re: What to Do with a PS/2?

That XDFCOPY.EXE from the BonusPak ISO also has the same issue under MS-DOS 6.22 on the PS/2. However, I got an OS/2 prompt from the first two floppies of the OS/2 Warp Connect 3.0 set (which are regular 1.44M floppies), and then I can CD to the DOS 6.22 HD and use that XDFCOPY.EXE to write the

Re: What to Do with a PS/2?

Warp 3 requires a 386SX with 4MB at minimum. Connect will work with a 386 and 8 to 12MB RAM, depending on what LAN services you choose to run. Here is a link to an IBM Redbook on the subject, covering all of this in great detail. http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/pdfs/sg244552.pdf No version

Re: What to Do with a PS/2?

On 26 January 2016 at 06:24, Mark J. Blair wrote: > So I think my next challenge is to figure out how to write out 1.8M XDF > floppies from the installation floppy images. Maybe I can find a utility to > write them from DOS? I have a 386 clone running MS-DOS 6.22 that I use for

Re: What to Do with a PS/2?

> On Jan 26, 2016, at 06:30, Liam Proven wrote: > > Try VetusWare: > http://vetusware.com/ I have been getting my OS/2 images from there. > > Or OldDos Ru: > http://old-dos.ru/ That site looks a bit more challenging for an English-only speaker. :) Maybe google translate

Re: What to Do with a PS/2?

On 01/26/2016 06:30 AM, Liam Proven wrote: On 26 January 2016 at 06:24, Mark J. Blair wrote: So I think my next challenge is to figure out how to write out 1.8M XDF floppies from the installation floppy images. Maybe I can find a utility to write them from DOS? I have a 386

Re: What to Do with a PS/2?

On Jan 25, 2016, at 9:24 PM, Mark J. Blair wrote: > images. Maybe I can find a utility to write them from DOS? I have a 386 clone > running MS-DOS 6.22 that I use for running ImageDisk. There's an LOADDSKF program on the CD that can be used to write the images to floppies, from DOS. It may

Re: What to Do with a PS/2?

> > > > > > So, would any of y'all like to help me brainstorm about interesting > > applications for this vintage heap, or maybe point me towards non-eBay > > sources of software that it would like to run? > > > > -- > > Mark J. Blair, NF6X > > http://www.nf6x.net/ > > > > > Sell

Re: What to Do with a PS/2?

> On Jan 25, 2016, at 08:29, drlegendre . wrote: > > If you're interested in a speed-up, I'm fairly sure a 486DX/2-66 should > drop-in for the current 33mhz CPU, without any additional changes. Doubles > your core speed and adds the math co-processor in one go. Cool. I

Re: What to Do with a PS/2?

Ugh. Find Warp (OS/2 v3 ) if you plan on playing with OS/2. It had more drivers included. If you find IBM Visualage software, you'll get C/C++ and with enough hunting - Smalltalk. I always wanted to play with that, but couldn't justify the needed. Todd Killingsworth On Mon, Jan 25, 2016

Re: What to Do with a PS/2?

> On Jan 25, 2016, at 08:44, Todd Killingsworth > wrote: > > Ugh. Find Warp (OS/2 v3 ) if you plan on playing with OS/2. It had more > drivers included. I think I'll give it a try. I had wanted to run whatever OS version would have most likely shipped with

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